Are Sugary Foods Addictive?

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Can One Become a Sugar Addict?

People have chewed coca leaves for at least 8,000 years as a mild stimulant without any evidence of addiction, but when certain components are isolated and concentrated into cocaine, we’ve got a problem. The same may be true of sugar—people don’t tend to binge on bananas. The isolation of sugar from the whole food may be the reason we’re more likely to supersize soda than sweet potatoes, or why we’re less likely to eat too much corn on the cob, but can’t seem to get enough high fructose corn syrup.

The overconsumption of sugar-sweetened diets has often been compared to drug addiction. However, until very recently this parallel was based more on anecdotal evidence than on solid scientific grounds. But now we have PET scans, imaging technology that can measure brain activity. It all started with a publication from the Institute of Clinical Physiology that showed decreased dopamine sensitivity in obese individuals. The heavier they were, the less responsive to dopamine they appeared to be. We see the same reduction in sensitivity in cocaine addicts and alcoholics, which “would suggest that a reduction in dopamine receptors is associated with addictive behavior irrespective of whether it is due to food or to addictive drugs, as seen in substance abusers.”

Dopamine is considered the neurotransmitter primarily involved in the pleasure and reward center of our brain, helping to motivate our drive for things like food, water and sex—all necessary for the perpetuation of our species. It was healthy and adaptive for our primate brains to drive us to eat that banana when there wasn’t much food around. But now that fruit is in fruit loop form, this adaptation has “become a dangerous liability.” The original Coca-Cola formulation actually included coca leaf, but now, perhaps, its sugar content may be the addictive stand-in.

What about artificial sweeteners? Though some are less harmful than others (Erythritol May Be a Sweet Antioxidant as opposed to Aspartame-Induced Fibromyalgia), they could still have adverse effects regardless of their individual chemistry. See my 3-part series:

  1. How Diet Soda Could Make Us Gain Weight
  2. Neurobiology of Artificial Sweeteners
  3. Unsweetening the Diet

What about fatty foods like meat? Does fat have addictive qualities as well? Good question! Check out my video Are Fatty Foods Addictive?

-Michael Greger, M.D.

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Michael Greger M.D., FACLM

Michael Greger, M.D. FACLM, is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognized professional speaker on a number of important public health issues. Dr. Greger has lectured at the Conference on World Affairs, the National Institutes of Health, and the International Bird Flu Summit, testified before Congress, appeared on The Dr. Oz Show and The Colbert Report, and was invited as an expert witness in defense of Oprah Winfrey at the infamous "meat defamation" trial.

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  1. Actually, there are vegans out, and a growing group of them, consuming mass quantities of fruit sugar every day, to tune of 10-15 bananas, 20 medjool dates, 2 cantaloupes, a pound of grapes and some greens to even things out. Many claim to be thriving on it, but I have to wonder what this massive intake of fruit sugar does to the bodies bacterial environment, so much fructose. FODMAPS and such. Modern supermarkets and supply chains are allowing this…..but is this sugar addiction, dopamine-feeding behavior? Of course it feels good to eat 20 medjools throughout the day. Throw in a few walnuts and you have a candy bar. Anyone have thoughts on this?

    1. I eat tons of fruit like that and for me it works.

      I so also consume veggies, greens, nuts, and oats but the majority, by far, of my calories are from whole fruit.

      The whole fruit is probably not much of a problem because you are getting tons of micronutrients and the fiber along with it so I wouldn’t just look at fructose from whole fruits from the same perspective as sucrose from added sugars or candies.. If someone was wanting to just juice for fruit and veg intake I would think that going heavier on the veg would be the way to go with fruits being used to give some sweetness and palatability since some veggies are not the best tasting.

      If the sugars from plant based foods had the same impact on the brain as added refined sugars then we never would have needed candy in the first place. People would just walk by the produce section of a grocery store and start to drool when they see a nice stack of oranges. That doesn’t happen. A few walnuts with a bunch of medjools is hardly a candy bar. That is way to macro level and with your focus on the sugar content. Sugar by itself may not be a good thing but sugars in whole plant foods come along with so many other things that you need…and you also need the carbs.

      ” I have to wonder what this massive intake of fruit sugar does to the bodies bacterial environment, so much fructose…” Plant foods, for the most part, are alkalizing to the body. Here is an interesting article about pH and various kinds of critters that live in the body.

      Here is one from Dr. Greger:

      I have nothing to do with that website nor have I ever purchased from them. The article just happens to have a nice combination of information in one place and in a short article regarding acid / alkalinity of the human body.

      FYI – a food in its natural state being more acidic does NOT mean that it makes your body more acidic. Lemons are acidic but after your body has worked them over, taken the nutrients that it needs, you are left more alkaline. There are lists of foods that alkalize the body all over the internet so don’t go away thinking that a food that is acidic in whole form will acidify the body.

      1. I find it interesting that some zoos have had to ban chimps from eating bananas as they have become addicted to them. Bananas were never as sweet as they are now. They have become man-made creations through our intervention in their growth. Food for thought. I think it is easy to stuff one’s feelings with 10 medjools, or any other fruit in indulgence, in the absence of hunger.

        1. People are not monkeys for starters.

          Also, pointing out exceptions to a rule does not mean that the rule has been disproved.

          Now, seriously, think about ALL the people that you know. How many have you actually seen getting addicted to a certain fruit? I don’t mean someone that eats an orange or grapefruit everyday at breakfast or has a glass of juice, I want to you to tell us how many people you know that have a date problem or apple problem? Eat even three apples and most people will 1) get sick of chewing or 2) get so cramped up that they won’t do that again.

          Dates – eat enough dates or anything else for that matter, and you get tired of the flavor pretty quick. Now, sugar can be addicting for some people but there are other things in foods that people get hooked on, almost always it is the bad for you foods. Fats and sugars, grilled flavors, etc. People get hooked on candy bars, pizza, soda, ice cream and garbage like that way more than someone gets hooked on fruits.

          I have never, ever, known anyone that was addicted to fruit. Over the course of my life time up to this point, I would bet that 90% of everyone I have known didn’t eat enough fruit (of course veggies, greens, beans, etc).

          People with a sugar problem don’t turn to fruit. They will get in their car and go to the gas station and fill up their 64oz cup for $1.00 or buy cupcakes from the grocery store.

          As far as the chimps go – more than likely they chimps liked them so much they would fight over them. You have a grocery store, cupboards, etc. Chimps get fed on a schedule. Most everyone in the industrial world can eat when they want and what they want. Chimps don’t have that luxury.

          1. I agree with most of what you are saying, BUT i just got through eating 4 good sized red delicious apples and i did not get sick of chewing or cramped. I also had 3 bananas some raw peanuts and almonds along with some organic lettuce from my garden and 2 sticks of celery. I enjoyed my meal and feel just fine. I will have a veggie meal at lunch with beans and barley.

            1. Big:

              You used to eating like that. Additionally, you did not get that much sugar or calories. Four apples (depending on size) has about the same calories as what most people drink in their soda at Taco Bell but you got a bunch of good for you micro-nutrients along the way.

              The rest of your meal, still plant based, looks like you maybe pushed 750 calories total with the apples, which is about right if you eat 3 meals and a couple of snacks per day.

              My smoothies are over 800 calories, contain 5 ounces leafy greens, almost 2 pounds fruit, maybe an ounce of nuts and a tablespoon of MRP just to make sure I don’t miss out on anything.

              I wish I had a garden though! Next place we live we are planning on dedicating a room with a southern facing window for edible plants and possibly a couple of mini-trees like the short lemon trees and maybe a fruiting avocado tree if we can find one. A table of tomatoes, strawberries, and kale for sure. Carrots and potatoes are supposed to be easy to grow indoors as well.

          2. I have a binge eating disorder and definitely am addicted to certain fruits, like bananas, dates and apples. For example. strawberries, with less sugar content, don’t do it for me. When I start eating these things, I feel like I can’t stop and never feel satiated, unless I top it off with a few handful of nuts…

            1. Sounds like the smoothies that I make. I always throw in almonds, walnuts, and flax seeds for a healthy fat blast and to make sure that I don’t get hungry again too soon.

              1. I don’t think so. You say your smoothies are about 800 calories. I can have a normal meal (plenty of vegetables, beans, seeds) and then binge on fruit, totalling over 2000 calories easily.

        2. I have to agree with rutter that our modern fruit creations are not really natural fruit. If you eat crabapples, quince, American persimmons, medlar, hawthornes or any other kind of fruit that has not been bred so heavily, you will be fine eating a lot of fruit. Our modern heavily bred fruit are a little bit like candy, with grossly oversized fructose and carbohydrates. Jo Robinson explains it in “Eating on the Wild Side.”

    2. When I started to eat more plant based I was doing a lot of green smoothies and the high fruit content really made me feel unbalanced. Sometimes I still have a banana/peanut butter smoothie since the nuts balance things out a bit, but for the most part I don’t drink them any more despite the purported benefits.

      1. I eat a lot of fruit also and do much better when the fruit is NOT blended. i just eat it whole. Usually with some nuts and greens like lettuce or spinach from my organic garden.

    3. I eat around 2600 calories a day and maybe 1800-2000 come from fruits. I drink around 60 oz of fruit smoothies a day made with bananas, dates, and strawberries mostly. I also snack on bananas throughout the day. I have my veggie juices in the morning, and some quinoa and peas, or some split pea soup, or garbanzo bean salad in the evening. I eat 5-6 times a day. I have been eating this way for three years and I can say the bad bacteria and any viruses in my body have been put in check. I haven’t been sick in three years since I adopted a plant based diet and before that I suffered from nasal and chest congestion and would constantly have a cold or flu. I had pneumonia several times also. All signs of sickness is gone. I do stick to alkaline and alkaline forming fruits, vegetables, nuts, and I minimize my legume and grain intake. I keep my fluid pH @7.5 this way. I think about it like this. If you didn’t live in an industrialized country and your country was full of vegetation, what would your diet naturally consist of? The easiest thing to acquire is fruits, and the next easiest is vegetables. Nuts, legumes, and grains take more preparation. Hunting animals is the most time consuming and most dangerous.

      1. Thank you for sharing this. I found it very helpful. Do you eat any gluten-grains? I struggle to gain weight and put on muscle no matter how much fruit I eat. Quinoa, no matter how many times I rinse it and soak it, irritates my gut to in the worst way. I eat beans and nails get brittle, hair goes more grey (anti-nutrients?)
        Starches from grains give me good energy, but I get real bloated and have massive cravings for them within 12 hours.

        1. I don’t eat common wheat because it is now a completely GMO crop. I think people have a problem with gluten grains now because it is GMO. I eat grains like Kamut, Spelt, Tef, and Rye. If you eat the bread you also have to look at the ingredients the are made with because often other grains and additive an preservatives will be added in, and you should avoid those products. As far as legumes go, I mostly only eat garbanzo beans and green peas and I don’t have a problem with brittle nails. I stay away from other legumes. Not all plant based foods are equal. I minimize my starch intake from legumes and grains. The bloating feeling you are getting from grain consumption is likely do the the GMO and processing of the grain that effect it gluten makeup which causes digestive issues.

        2. Sounds like your digestive problems are likely caused by chronic dehydration. Try really hydrating up consistently and see if those same foods are actually fine for you. 3-5 liters a day is healthy for most adults (per 24hr period).

    4. As long as it is whole foods, NOTHING refined…the more the merrier! I have days that I eat nothing but fruit all day and it works, but it must be whole foods and non GMO is a must!

  2. FYI NF: Except for the links provided along with the article or the video, it’s hard to find my way around this web site! The A-Z index seems strait forward enough but often times, the key words in the video aren’t indexed in the look up database. What’s the logic of doing a search? It’s not a simple matter of typing in a plant or disease’s name and getting all the related information. The video titles are creative and grab attention but so often, when Dr. Greger says, I’ll tell THAT in tomorrow’s video.”, I don’t have a clue how to find the follow-up video. It’s my opinion someone (not me) doesn’t understand Relational Databases. If these key words are added to the database as the stories/videos are created (and automatically indexed), the information is easily availably by searching with numerous cross references. As is, it takes luck and determination to do any research on a specific subject. It’s easy to get lost in all the interesting videos looking for the one (or two) you need.

    1. I’m incredibly grateful for the vast quantity of great, digestible information that has been pulled together into this web site, in articles and videos. I also wish searching were a little more helpful. But, given that the site is free, I don’t think I can really complain. I can put in some effort. I totally hear you though. I’ve had many occasions when I was unable to find a video that might have said something very interesting that was off-topic to the video, but I want to hear it again. One issue I’ve found is that the Search tool searches for any page with any of the search keywords, in any order, instead of giving priority to pages that have both the search keywords. For example, if I search for “join pain”, I might get a bunch of pages that just have the word “pain” in them, and nothing about joints, let alone joint pain. That’s just an example though. It would be nice to be able to have a more advanced search at least. (AND vs OR, or containing _____ but not containing _____, for example. Would be so, so nice.

      1. This site is invaluable, Douglas. Like you, I appreciate all that it is. What I am suggesting has more to do with competent database knowledge than expensive programming. I’ve searched on the exact title of a video and not got a hit. A key word brings up several hits but not the one I’m seeking. I then resort to a visual scan of the graphics for each and every video until I see one that interests me. I’ve even found groups of common videos but the one I need isn’t in that grouping. It’s like several folks have access to the file cabinet and each has her own filing system. It makes me want to eat red meat!

        I have to wonder if they are using a “flat file” database. If so it’s 20 years out of date. However, if they are truly using a “Relational Database” then the programmer is in way over her head. I used to trade stocks fulltime and my trading software of choice was perfect in every way, except it was a dog…that’s D O G ! I contacted the company and made them aware of what was possible and they in fact, switched to a relational database AND a skilled programmer. As a result the stock trading software morphed into a speed demon overnight. Someone who skillfully creates a website isn’t likely a database guru too. This site needs that touch.

        When I view a video from the library and Dr. Greger ends it saying, “I’ll cover THAT in tomorrow’s video.” I’d like to look up the referenced video by date or name or topic. “Tomorrow’s video” is not a good key search word.
        The solution is more about understanding what a good database can do than about money.

        1. Larry: Not to invalidate any of your main points, I thought you would want to know that there is a “next video” (along with a ‘previous video”) link underneath each video on the right side of the screen. So, if you want to see “tomorrow’s video” and you are not looking at the very latest video, then you already have a quick link to it without having to do any searches.

          1. Thea, I guess you’re saying that works for library videos…thanks. If today’s video, for example, is to have a follow-up video tomorrow, the link would not be created today? But WOULD be present once the follow-up video is released? I’ll pay closer attention next time. As is, the next day I may be away from my computer so catch up on videos a couple days later. By then I’ve forgotten to look for the follow-up.

            My overall critique is valid. I used to teach seminars and we targeted each quadrant of the USA with mailings. The database had millions of companies and their data stored on CD’s. I could do a search on my home computer and find the thirty thousand I wanted to mail to in two-tenths of one second. For your application a from can be developed that lists all the parameters (data fields) a search query will sort on. Those words are linked to the database files and all the videos they are applicable to. It’s pretty sophisticated…gets into “parent-child” fields and is pre-indexed so is lightning fast. You have an invaluable tool for research here but access is limited to folks like myself who will spend the time ferreting out the good stuff. It’s a shame to accumulate all that info and not have immediate access to it.
            Think about it.

            1. You are preaching to the choir here. I’ve submitted similar sentiments/requests myself. (I’m just a volunteer and have no influence myself.) I’ll make sure your comments get forwarded to the NF staff.

              FYI: My guess is: Being a non-profit site with limited funding, there may not be much that can be done right now. But hopefully this important issue will be put on a list for future improvements for the site when funding becomes available.

              Thank you for your posts.

              1. Thea, not to beat a dead horse, but to be perfectly clear, I don’ think upgrading your database knowledge and practices would break the bank. It’s more about understanding what is possible, what is “normal”, what is needed, for a modern web site to catalog it’s objects. It’s about joining the 21st century. The money’s already being spent. It’s about spending it wisely…that is, on a skilled professional database guru, not just an afterthought. The non-profit has a Rembrandt painting its pictures so deserves someone equally skilled to catalog its art. What if the great artist locked all his works in a vault and only a few crafty determined people could break in?

                If a bank tracked your personal money on the par it would be closed by the federal government…and you wouldn’t be content waiting for “future improvements”. It wouldn’t cost anything to explore what is possible NOW. With that under the non-profits’ belt, “intelligent” decisions and, if need be , budgeting can be achieved.

                Really, really think about it. Y’all must be running out of hiding places for the videos.

                1. MacSmiley: I am guessing that that’s not an option for a variety of reasons. Plus, there were some big search problems under the old site too. So, that wouldn’t be the fix for this particular bug.

                  On the plus side: I do know these comments are being listened to. If you have anything specific to add, I’ll be sure to pass that on too.

                  Thanks for all your participation on this site.

  3. I have to disagree with Dr. Greger on this one.

    We only have one pleasure center in the brain, which is a normal survival mechanism, so it is no surprise that hyper-palatable foods would light it up like a Christmas tree.

    If sugar all by itself were addictive, however, people would be downing 5 pound bags of cane sugar by the spoonful or mainlining gallon jugs of Karo corn syrup. But that is not what happens.

    Look at the image above. What do you see? Do you see plain sugar? Or do you see candy? Candy is sugar + flavorings. (Remember Pixie Stix?) Candy bars, cakes, and cookies are all a combination of sugar + salt + fat + starch and/or protein. Food manufacturers owned by tobacco companies know how to engineer combinations of these ingredients for maximum repeat business.

    Michael Moss’s book Salt, Sugar, Fat is enlightening in this regard.

    However, when Dr. Hyman claims that sugar is worse than heroin, or when Dr. Lustig asserts that fructose is toxic, that’s just sensationalistic, inaccurate fearmongering. Anyone who has been or have loved ones who have been ensnared by TRUE substance abuse should be offended by this hyperbolic anti-sugar hysteria.

    1. It doesn’t take five pounds of heroin for an addict to get her fix. Why do you believe so much is needed for a refined sugar fix? The illustration isn’t science, it’s just “eye candy” (no pun intended). Since refined sugar (under any name) isn’t usually injected singularly, what illustration, if any, would be acceptable? Refined sugar water? A bag of glucose? Jug of corn syrup?

      A relatively small percentage of our population is addicted to heroin as compared to sugar. Of course sugar isn’t the only processed supplement added to food to induce glutinous mass consumption, but it’s one of the main triggers causing our epidemic obesity. Are there others? Sure! You may disagree with Dr. Greger but the science does not.

    2. I disagree with you on that. Many more people are addicted to sugar, fructose, etc than heroin. It just destroys and kills at a slower rate.

      1. @Larry and big al

        You are not understanding me, people.

        The video is entitled Can One Become a Sugar Addict, *NOT* Can One Become an Addict of Junk Food of Which Sugar Is One of Several Finely-tuned Crucial Components.

        The premise is that various types of sugar, be it glucose, fructose, maltose, lactose, etc. ad infinitum, is addictive because it has been isolated from its fibrous plant source, just like cocaine and heroin. If that were true, people would be uncontrollably gorging on spoonful after spoonful of pure, unadulterated white cane sugar. They’d be drowning their sorrows in undiluted corn syrup and pouring large quantities of honey down their gullets.

        But that’s not what happens. People binge on Oreo cookies and ice cream not Jack Frost and C&H. Why? Because pure sugar is not inherently addictive.

        There’s no black market in developed countries for IV bags of glucose/dextrose and Ringer’s lactase solution. Why? Because pure sugar is not inherently addictive.

        When Hostess filed for bankruptcy, boxes of Twinkies were sold on eBay for exorbitant prices to frantic bidders. Why? Because pure sugar is addictive? No, because if Dominos had filed for bankruptcy, nothing of the sort would have happened to yellow 5 pound bags of sugar.

        Meanwhile, a drug does not have to be divorced from its plant source to have a mind-altering effect. Case in point: Nicotine. Tobacco is sold and consumed in whole form. Case in point: THC. Because pot-spiked brownies.

        By the way, both the Japanese, Cubans, and Venezuelans eat large amounts of sugar, yet they are not obese. Without an excess of calories, sugar is a relatively innocuous substance.

        Meanwhile, there’s a whole industry-backed campaign to absolve saturated fat of any guilt in contributing to heart disease, diabetes, and obesity.

        Here’s an image from one of Plant Positive’s videos, and a few from Alan Aragon’s presentation yesterday.

        1. MacSmiley: That was a helpful clarification. I hadn’t thought of it that way before. Thanks for taking the time to make your point again.

          (and sorry you were having so much trouble with Disqus today)

  4. Does high fruit consumption promote higher triglyceride levels (and thus a worse blood lipid profile, thus more risk for heart disease)?

    1. No it doesn’t. I eat a plant-based diet and I eat around 1800-2000 calories of fruit a day. I have very low triglyceride levels. Now if you are eating a lot of fruits plus a lot of refined sugar, and animal-based protein, and refined foods high in refined sugar and fat, then you may have a problem.

  5. YES IT IS ADDICTIVE – I know because I’m having a devil of a time quitting sugar even though I know it is not good for me. I’ve gone between hours and days, but always fall back into the rabbit hole. I also hide my habit and my spouse thinks I eat really well but doesn’t know the real story. Dr. Gregor – perhaps you could do a video or article on kicking the sugar addiction for good? I’ve never been addicted to anything else before but I can’t quit sugar by myself.

      1. Exactly. People are blaming one particular substance, one ingredient and/or one macronutrient for the synergistic effect of multiple ingredients.

        After all, even Bill Cosby knows that chocolate cake is made of wheat and eggs and milk! ;-P

        If a person wants to make a food rule to avoid foods high in sugar to control caloric intake, be my guest. But just don’t insist it’s only the sugar that’s the problem.

  6. I’ve been obese all my life and a true sugar junkie. I have lately joined the ‘nutritarian’ lifestyle with Dr. Joel Fuhrman and e has educated me and transformed my life. He then brought me to this website and I continue to learn so much more and EVERYTHING reinforces Dr. Fuhrman and I am learning to heed all the warnings. Don’t get me wrong, it takes time to become a nutritarian after years of abuse, but I suggest getting rid of all the sugar in your diet first. And don’t fall for vegan junk food either. I lost 186# and counting (its been only 7mos)! Thanks guys (the doctors)!

  7. Could refined carbohydrates such as breads also cause an addiction? And if so, is it due to the sugar in these carbohydrates that makes them addictive? Or, do carbohydrates release their own ‘happy hormones’ that make them addictive?

  8. Dr. Greger, what would you recommend to someone incontrollably consuming enourmous quantities of fruits, beans, nuts and vegetables?

    1. What do you mean by ‘incontrallably consuming’?

      Generally speaking, eating more whole, plant-food as you describe is the goal!

      I found that I needed to relearn a lot of things that I thought were common sense around food. Also, I realized that I had a lot of judgments about eating too much of this or that — and it wasn’t based on science.

      Please watch these videos by Dr. Greger for more information:
      This video is on healthy weight status on a plant-based diet.
      Nutrient-Dense Approach to Weight Management

      Also, please watch this video on eating more whole, plant-based food to lose weight.
      Eating More to Weigh Less

      You mentioned nuts and dates, so I include these videos.
      Are Dates Good For You?
      Nuts and Obesity: The Weight of Evidence

      Beans are fantastic for your health and can be eaten at every meal.
      Please take a look at this article on beans found on the NutritionFacts website:
      Eat Beans to Live Longer

      To health!

      1. Thank you for your response!

        By incontrollably consuming I mean it feels like one can’t stop eating and doesn’t feel satisfied even after consuming massive excess of calories – in the range of several thousands in one sitting.

        The goal is also to eat proper amounts of food, corresponding to one’s energy expenditure, and overeating is unhealthy even when done on healthy foods.

        I hope we can agree that science supports the view that overconsuming calories is not optimal for health, there is nothing to relearn about that, isn’t it?

        1. Hi Miroslav,
          You are correct that bingeing on any food, even “healthy” food, is not healthy and can lead to weight gain and feelings of shame, anxiety, depression and other problems. If you live in the USA or Canada, I’d recommend the following link to find a therapist near you who specializes in eating disorders, preferably a cognitive-behavioral therapist since this modality has some of the most extensive scientific research backing its effectiveness. Good luck!

  9. Dr. Gregor- Love all you videos and latest book! I would love some more information on sugar addition and withdrawal. I have been addicted to things like maple syrup, dark chocolate, extra virgin olive oil, soy ice cream. Grew up on a mediterranean diet but always ate a little too much fat and sugar. Trying to detox. I am vegan. please help! It seems like the plant based folks keep downplaying sugar addiction in an effort to make people aware of the greater problem of animal products- but for people who are already vegan an addiction to cookies, even made with dates and nuts, can be a real problem. I’d love to better understand the science behind all this. Can you get to a point where you can have just a little bit of sugar or chocolate if you are a true addict? Thank you!!

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