Reversing Diabetic Blindness with Diet

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Reversing Diabetic Blindness with Diet

Though many reported feeling better on Dr. Walter Kempner’s rice and fruit diet, he refused to accept such anecdotal evidence as proof of success. He wanted objective measurements. The most famous were his “eyegrounds photographs,” taken with a special camera that allowed one to visualize the back of the eye. In doing so, he proved diet can arrest the bleeding, oozing, and swelling you see in the back of the eye in people with severe kidney, hypertensive, or heart disease. Even more than that, he proved that diet could actually reverse it, something never thought possible.

In my video, Can Diabetic Retinopathy Be Reversed?, you can see before and after images of the back of patients’ eyes. He found reversal to such a degree that even those who could no longer distinguish large objects were able to once again read fine print. Dr. Kempner had shown a reversal of blindness with diet.

The results were so dramatic that the head of the department of ophthalmology at Duke, where Kempner worked, was questioned as to whether they were somehow faked. He assured them they were not. In fact, he wrote in one person’s chart, “This patient’s eyegrounds are improved to an unbelievable degree.” Not only had he never seen anything like it, he couldn’t remember ever seeing a patient with such advanced disease even being alive 15 months later.

The magnitude of the improvements Kempner got—reversal of end-stage heart and kidney failure—was surprising, simply beyond belief. But as Kempner said as his closing sentence of a presentation before the American College of Physicians, “The important result is not that the change in the course of the disease has been achieved by the rice diet but that the course of the disease can be changed.”

Now that we have high blood pressure drugs, we see less hypertensive retinopathy, but we still see a lot of diabetic retinopathy, now the leading cause of blindness in American adults. Even with intensive diabetes treatment—at least three insulin injections a day with the best modern technology has to offer—the best we can offer is usually just a slowing of the progression of the disease.

So, in the 21st century, we slow down your blindness. Yet a half century ago, Kempner proved we could reverse it. Kempner started out using his plant-based rice diet ultra-low in sodium, fat, cholesterol, and protein to reverse kidney and heart failure; he actually assumed the diet would make diabetes worse. He expected a 90% carbohydrate diet would increase insulin requirements; however, the opposite proved to be true. He took the next 100 patients with diabetes who walked through his door who went on the rice diet for at least three months and found their fasting blood sugars dropped despite a drop in the insulin they were taking. What really blew people away was this: Forty-four of the patients had diabetic retinopathy, and, in 30% of the cases, their eyes improved. That’s not supposed to happen; diabetic retinopathy had been considered “a sign of irreversible destruction.” What does this change mean in real life? Patients went from unable to even read headlines to normal vision.

The remarkable success Dr. Kempner had reversing some of the most dreaded complications of diabetes with his rice and fruit diet was not because of weight loss. The improvements occurred even in those patients who did not lose significant weight; so, it must have been something specific about the diet. Maybe it was his total elimination of animal protein, animal fat, and cholesterol? Or perhaps it was his radical reduction in sodium, fat, and protein in general? We don’t know.

How do we treat diabetic retinopathy these days? With steroids and other drugs injected straight into the eyeball. If that doesn’t work, there’s always pan-retinal laser photocoagulation, in which laser burns are etched over nearly the entire retina. Surgeons literally burn out the back of your eye. Why would they do that? The theory is that by killing off most of the retina, the little pieces you leave behind may get more blood flow.

When I see that, along with Kempner’s work, I can’t help but feel like history has been reversed. It seems as though it should have gone like, “Can you believe 50 years ago the best we had was this barbaric, burn-out-your-socket surgery? Thank goodness we’ve since learned that through dietary means alone, we can reverse the blindness.” But instead of learning, medicine seems to have forgotten.

I documented the extraordinary Kempner story previously in Kempner Rice Diet: Whipping Us Into Shape and Drugs and the Demise of the Rice Diet. The reason I keep coming back to this is not to suggest people should go on such a diet (it is too extreme and potentially dangerous to do without strict medical supervision), but to show the power of dietary change to yield tremendous healing effects.

The best way to prevent diabetic blindness is to prevent or reverse diabetes in the first place. See, for example:

Why wouldn’t a diet of white rice make diabetes worse? See If White Rice Is Linked to Diabetes, What About China?

For more on the nitty gritty on what is the actual cause of type 2 diabetes, see:

In health,

Michael Greger, M.D.

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Michael Greger M.D., FACLM

Michael Greger, M.D. FACLM, is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognized professional speaker on a number of important public health issues. Dr. Greger has lectured at the Conference on World Affairs, the National Institutes of Health, and the International Bird Flu Summit, testified before Congress, appeared on The Dr. Oz Show and The Colbert Report, and was invited as an expert witness in defense of Oprah Winfrey at the infamous "meat defamation" trial.


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  1. Did Dr Kempner ever do any work on cancer ? I’m vegetarian going on 10 yrs. (i’m 70)
    read much on heart help, diabetes, weight, etc. Seems like never on cancer cures. Guess that SOB just too tough to knock out.




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    1. Hi Mike – Dean Ornish, M.D. has done work of the nature you are asking about. And Dr. G has done a video on it as regards prostate cancer. Ornish took men who had rising psa levels and a prostate cancer diagnoses but with a situation that suggested a “watchful waiting” approach. The cancer was there and typically progressed but was not at a stage to take an active treatment approach. Ornish put these men on a WFPB diet (and perhaps other lifestyle changes, I’m not sure). The approach yielded reduction in psa levels and stoppage or reversal of the cancer. Further information and implications on cancer reversal can be found in T. Colin Campbell’s book “The China Study”. If you haven’t read it you may find it very interesting. Google Ornish’s work for more info as well. Ornish also has a clinic in California and his Reverse Heart Disease program is paid for by Medicare and other health insurance programs. So go to his site for more information. Good luck and have fun!




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    2. I trained with Dr Kempner 1964-7 when on house staff at Duke. You say the rice diet is dangerous but any good internist can manage it. It is not easy but neither is being blind. What evidence do you have that the other recommendations you give have ever reversed this degree of retinopathy. Surely with a try in my opininon but it is not easy. Happy to help with such patients. I currently use the low Na DASH and monitor by checking urine Na/K. Dr Kempner taught me patient’s lie but the urine does not! Would like to send your more info. I really enjoy the way you put thinks together.




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    3. What was not mentioned was that most of Kempner early patient’s had been sent to him with full blown malignant hypertension which usually lead to death in less that s year at that time and still does if not treated. You might want to read Fat Like Me for more details.




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    4. The Prevention of blindness has always been the goal of the Lions club international. Because of its role in causing blindness we have taken on diabetes prevention.

      I have shared this link with our local club members and would like to see the Lions club champion healthy eating as a form of prevention.

      Sincerely,

      Joe Mollica – Glenwood Springs, Colorado.




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  2. I am wondering if today’s article was chosen to follow the articles on arsenic in rice on purpose? I also wonder what the Rice Clinic that is continuing Dr. Kempner’s work is doing with the information about arsenic in rice?




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      1. Let’s not forget there can be other contaminants in rice e.g. cadmium, lead, etc., and these have been found in rice from other countries including India and China at a level high enough to be worrisome. Cooking it like pasta removes a lot of the nutrients, which would make the diet less healthful.

        I’m going to stick with lower arsenic California rice!




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        1. Any one know arsenic level of 1943-50 rice?

          May your pressure be low!

          CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

          Available for video consult at




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        2. Seems like one can measure blood or urine arsenic and see. Maybe arsenic was the magic componponent

          May your pressure be low!

          CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

          Available for video consult at




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        3. I think you are not right, because there is a “dish” called rice congee by the TCM. You put rice in cold water (1 : 10) in a big pot with a cap and cock it for 4 – 5 hours! This congee can be digested by nearly all sick people, even on the step to death. This congee can be cocked, as the same method, from other grains. Because the TCM is much older then any modern medicine I believe there is more true in then we want to believe… ;-)




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    1. What in the world?! ‘Don’t eat rice’, ‘don’t eat rice’, ‘don’t eat rice’…..but eat rice to reverse diabetic retinopathy? So the upshot is the vision got better but the patient died of cancer due to arsenic?




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      1. Don’t get lost in the irreconcilables? This is RESEARCH…not necessarily recommendations.

        You wouldn’t want to start on a full rice diet without supervision and testing?

        I’m personally interested in actionable stuff…but you need to keep some perspective?




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      2. I hear your frustration. As a nurse working as a moderator on this site I’m aware that the issue of arsenic in rice has raised many eyebrows. As another calm soul has advised, let’s put this perspective. recognizing nutrition IS complex and can seem to have contradictory results at time beneficial for one organ system, but not so positive on others. Focusing on the upshot as you said might be best–the occasionally confusing complex results of research that points to further research down the line ?




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    2. Hey Marvin, thanks for writing. I imagine Dr. G chose to write the recent article because he was done for now with the series on arsenic. He’s a very busy guy, so hearing back from him on questions is often somewhat delayed. I hope you’re okay with my answer instead.

      The work of Dr. Kempner continues at the Rice House in N.C. and is listed here: http://www.ricehouse.org/. We are not privy to what they may or may not be doing with the info on arsenic in rice. My guess is that they would tell you that the people who are treated with the Rice Diet have very serious forms of hypertension and other health problems that make it worth the short-term risk of higher AS exposure, since they would probably not be continuing on such a diet for their entire lives.




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  3. But 10 years later all patients died from severe Arsenic exposure.

    Hey…at least they were able to read the last will and testament they had to sign…right???




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  4. Yes I also would like to know the fate of the people on the kempner rice,did they died early from arsenic poisoning.
    also how about the the one billion plus people in china and india who consume white rice every day???????????




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      1. I agree 100%. 1.25 billion people eat rice in India and hardly any arsenic poisoning there. In fact India’s population has grown from 1 billion in 1999 to 1.25 billion in 2016.

        Any food in USA is poison not just brown rice.




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        1. Murty Hotha,

          “Any food in USA is poison not just brown rice.”

          I have had the pleasure of living and working in India, and I am here to tell you that it is one of the most filthy, dirty, unhygienic, and polluted countries in the world. And Indian life expectancy is way below that of the USA.




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          1. We are talking about food adulteration with dangerous chemicals and pesticides. Not hygiene. Don’t get mixed up. The chemicals and preservatives loaded in the food are much more dangerous than filth in the streets. Human body knows how to deal with filth but not chemicals made by Monsanto and Bayer.

            Population of US is 4.6 of the World’s and they consume 74% of the drugs produced on the Earth.

            Great you visisted and lived India, but you thinking is not straight. Don’t mix facts and analyze.




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        2. #Murty Hotha

          Why focus people always only on one smal point and refuse the other? Please read Dr. Gregers articles about Arsenic and rice again, the solution (more or less) are mentioned in some passing and of course other articles not directly connected with rice.
          For example, that the absorbtion of arsenic is increasing by eating fat – in Asia people use (traditionell) meat and additional fad more for flavoring. Do you think a 400 g steak in America is enough flavor for some rice? Then, maybe, it would be intresting to compare the size of each meal. I don’t know personal people from India but I know personal People from Eritrea and if I would eat this size of food I would starve every day. Also the average amount of vegtables may plays a role and don’t forget the among of, for example, curcuma and other spices. Maybe there is also a big different between the cultivation method and as I know the have much more different sorts of rice…
          In addition, I still believe there is no McDoof KFKickeriki on the countrysite, means people are eathing less junk food at all.
          Could the solution be in this thoughts? I think Y E S.




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          1. The way rice is produced with pesticides and stored for long shelf life with addition of insecticides is the reason. Rice in its pure form is sustainable food, contaminated chemicals for commercial reason rice gets the blame.




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    1. I’ve eaten cheap rice over quite a few years of my life and lived to tell about it. During school years I ate mostly rice with a can of condensed soup thrown in…some mac and cheese…some spaghetti mix….period. Go figure. Probably paid for it though.

      I have camped in remote places for months and years at a time and the same kinds of food allowed me to stay out for long periods.

      I liked to save $ and had not too much interest in food. Can’t say that now though.




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    2. Hey T, thanks for writing. I imagine that the folks on Dr. Kempner’s diet enjoy the same anonymity (i.e., privacy of medical information) that we are all supposed to enjoy. In any case, death from arsenic poisoning is not something that is high on the list of common reasons for dying.

      The billion people in China who eat rice each day are very likely growing it in conditions different from that we see in the U.S., possibly because they put such a high value on what they consider a ‘staple’ crop. In the U.S. we have the freedom to choose from many kinds of starches, so perhaps we don’t place the same high standards on growing our rice as the Chinese do (?)




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  5. On a related topic, I’m curious as to what the latest science says about reversing another eye problem: Cataracts. Dr G has a helpful video several years ago on preventing cataracts:

    https://nutritionfacts.org/video/preventing-cataracts-with-diet/

    But how about reversing already formed cataracts? There was some research a couple of years ago on using lanosterol to reverse cataracts, but I can’t find much new on the subject. Here’s a link to one of the older articles:

    http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v523/n7562/full/nature14650.html

    I’m already on a Whole Plant Food diet with no added Sugar, Oil, Salt. Does Dr G or any knowledgeable person know which foods may contain substantial amounts of lanosterol? Any help in this area would be appreciated. Thanks.




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    1. You should check out
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanosterol

      where it says under Clinical Significance:
      “Clinical significance[edit]
      Preliminary studies in dogs and rabbits have shown that lanosterol can prevent and even reverse cataract formation.[2][3] However, an attempt to replicate these results in age-related cataractous human lens nuclei removed during manual small incision cataract surgery by immersing them in lanosterol solution and incubating them for 6 days according to the method of Zhao et al.,[2] failed to reverse nuclear opacity.[4”




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      1. Thanks David. I did read that, but I was hoping there were some more extensive research studies on lanosterols and other dietary methods of reversing cataracts. It appears that untreated cataracts are a major cause of blindness in the elderly (probably caused by poor nutrition over the years before NutritionFacts.org was born :-) It seems the only treatment one hears about is surgery or some pharmaceutical drug to delay it.




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        1. I’m in that boat – 70 yrs old with cataracts, even though I’ve protected my eyes from UV for many decades (but did do some unwise sun bathing in my youth) and have been some form of vegetarian since college, now vegan for 2+ years. My opthalmalogist claims they will only get larger, but for the past year they have not progressed, which I optimistically attribute to my WFPB diet. I’m still hoping they’ll shrink over time. Who knows. Cheers!




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            1. I’m currently using carnosine eye drops…though I don’t appreciate the price. Will likely make my own 1% carnosine solution in distilled water…kept refrigerated. Recently had an eye exam where the beginnings of a cataract was found in one eye.

              Carnosine eye drops can reverse early stage cataracts.

              https://www.amazon.com/Life-Extension-Bright-Eyes-tubes/dp/B000PBZ5TA/ref=sr_1_3_a_it

              http://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2006/5/report_vision/Page-02

              Multiple studies suggest that eye drops containing carnosine may help in the prevention and management of cataracts. In one 24-month, placebo-controlled study, an acetylated type of carnosine—N-acetylcarnosine—was used in eye-drop form in 49 patients with cataracts.22 Cataract patients who received carnosine eye drops twice daily demonstrated significantly improved vision compared to those receiving placebo eye drops. In addition, topographical studies of the patients’ eyes revealed that people using the carnosine eye drops had fewer areas of lens clouding from cataract formation. The eye drops were well tolerated, and there were no reports of adverse ocular or systemic side effects. The researchers concluded, “topical [carnosine] shows potential for the treatment and prevention of cataracts.”




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              1. I am not going to put anything in my eyes to prevent cataract as it is a natural occurrence. You may do more harm to your eyes by putting eyedrops to prevent it.

                Now it is said that if you have a healthy lifestyle then you reduce the chance of having cataract when you get old, or sometimes at younger age too. But if you do get it then it is a simple procedure to put a new lens in your eye(s) and in some case, it restores your vision to 20/20 (almost like a permanent contact lens). But you don’t use eyedrop to dissolve cataract.




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              2. Be certain you boil water sterile can it. Would use distilled water.

                May your pressure be low!

                CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

                Available for video consult at




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    2. Thanks for your comment.

      I did not find any recent research specific to this topic. However, I did find a recent review on the beneficial role of lutein and zeaxanthin in cataracts (see here). Note that eggs are not the richest sources of both these nutrients.

      Hope this answer helps.




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    3. It should be distinguished between cataract and retinopathy. Cataract is a natural occurrence due to the eyes protecting itself and becoming cloudy and it has nothing to do with health or nutrition. Whereas retinopathy is a disease that is preventable through nutrition. You cannot eat to prevent cataract and most people will get it when they get old. So don’t panic if you get it when you get old and think that you have done something wrong.




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    4. Nutrition(Facts) theory on aged cataract having anything to do with nutrition is unscientific. Cataract will happen to 80% of elderly, healthy and not healthy. It will cause people to have guilt feeling if they get it, as well as avoiding minor surgery (to replace the lens) when it is necessary.




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    5. WFPB-Hal. Lanosterol is a precursor of cholesterol, therefore found only in animal products. That it would help cataracts is strange given that the rate of cataract formation is much lower in vegans.
      I may be wrong, but I think the researchers tried using it in people on statins. Statins downregulate production of it in the human body. This, they thought, contributed to damage in epithelial cells in the eye which need it.




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  6. What grain would be a good substitute for the rice if one wanted to try the original rice diet? Could the same results be obtained with a different grain? Can Dr. Greger offer any suggestions?




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      1. While oat groats might taste similar , they are much higher in protein and fat than rice , one would have to be very cautious using oats to duplicate Dr Kempner experiments . They should not be able to do the same as rice. There is no substitute for rice .




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        1. Dr Kempner experiment is old stuff because rice is full of sugar and does not have all the nutrition and it’s only a staple or add on. You better eat a healthy diet of fruits and vegetables and bean, seed and even healthy meat and dairy if you are not vegan. That will fix diabetes and retinopathy too.




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    1. Thanks for your comment Laurie.

      It would be hard to substitute rice for another grain due to different nutritional properties and composition. But a healthy food could quinoa, although that is not exactly a cereal.

      Hope this answer helps.




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      1. What if the main secret of the Kempner rice diet is to switch peoples diet (genarally) from fried meat, a lot of oil, salt and but little vegtable and fuits simply to a plant diet with no oil, no salt but a lots of vegetables and fuits? Look, Dr. Esselstyn jun. (and others) proved reversing heart diseases by changing there diet, I can not see any big differences at the structures of the blood vessels between one body. And in my understanding some eye problems are also related to a lack of optimal supply on nutrition and nutrition will be supplayed be the blood vessels. Right?
        The attempt to heal one part of the body with this special food and a other part of the body with another is for me, personal, thinking like physicans – there is an expert for the heart, for the skin, for the eyes, for the kidneys but all this experts forget the rest of the body. ;-)




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      1. Hi Mike and thanks for your question. As Dr. Greger indicates in this video (https://nutritionfacts.org/video/kempner-rice-diet-whipping-us-into-shape/) following Dr. Kempner’s rice diet is incredibly difficult without medical supervision. Fortunately, more contemporary information that we have about a broader WFPB diet, including vegetables and other grains (including barley and millet) without added salt or oils, can be equally effective in controlling our major disease like diabetes, heart disease, stroke and kidney disease. So yes, eat barley and millet or other whole grains that you enjoy in the context of your disease fighting WFPB diet.




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        1. In my 50 year experience change in eating habits is difficult.

          But as Dr. Kempner would say: I offer you your life in one hand and the salt shaker in the other. The choice is yours.




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  7. I personally am a type2 diabetic and following the WFPB diet for optimal results and starting to see lower blood glucose.

    I have a friend that has been legally blind (with guide dog) for over 20 years. His blindness got worse during laser treatments and then fully lost his sight.

    Could we ever imagine that he could reclaim even some sight from WFPB diet? I don’t want to say anything to him if his condition is a lost cause.

    Thank you.




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  8. Ken, maybe only just mention to your friend the benefits of a WFPB diet for other health issues, including your own personal experiences. If the diet improves his vision as well, that would be like icing on the cake.




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    1. In reality the most effective part was likely the very low salt content. Well really a normal salt intake for our genome. 250 mg sodium a day. About what is in a pack of McDonalds salt.

      May your pressure be low!

      CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

      Available for video consult at




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    1. No. It improved vision because the hemorrhage and edema in the back of the eye went away. But no one has studied it that I am aware of. Can help if you are interested.

      May your pressure be low!

      CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

      Available for video consult at




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  9. Thank You so very much, this great. But , please , what is with glaucoma blindness ? Can it also be reversed or stopped or slowed ? or whatever? by plant based diet , please..




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    1. I was diagnosed with glaucoma 15 years ago with an intraocular pressure of 27 in each eye. Medication brought it own to 22, then laser surgery to it to 18. It stayed at 18 until I went on a WFPB diet 4 years ago. My intraocular pressure now is consistently 12 for the last two years. My opthamologist’s response is that there is no proof that my diet change is responsible, and he does not know of any studies that support my improvement. I believe it is the diet.




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    2. I found an abstract that studied the association of fruits and vegetables on glaucoma.

      Am J Ophthalmol. 2012 Oct;154(4):635-44. doi: 10.1016/j.ajo.2012.03.048. Epub 2012 Jul 20.
      The association of consumption of fruits/vegetables with decreased risk of glaucoma among older African-American women in the study of osteoporotic fractures.

      Giaconi JA1, Yu F, Stone KL, Pedula KL, Ensrud KE, Cauley JA, Hochberg MC, Coleman AL; Study of Osteoporotic Fractures Research Group.




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      1. Better to give us the publication of a randomized trial.

        May your pressure be low!

        CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

        Available for video consult at




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  10. Inspired by Dr. Kempner’s articles about this diet, I went on it for a week last month. Even in 1 week I saw some benefit with my blood pressure. I’m planning to do it for a few weeks each year. I used brown rice vs. white (i know, i know, arsenic…i usually don’t eat rice).




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  11. First of all, animal protein, animal fat, and cholesterol are not the causes of diabetes, nor inflammation, nor retinopathy but it is the inflammation caused by consumption of processed foods, sugar, foods with too much Omega 6, transfat, PUFA fat. And then rice is actually not a remedy to rely on exclusively because rice is loaded with sugar and does not have protein.

    The reason that Kempner is successful is perhaps because he tried on patients that ate terribly and rice is now a miracle food because it’s better that the foods they ate previously.

    And there is no doubt that diet can reverse diabetes or retinopathy, heart disease, etc. but it is not rice, nor it is just plant foods (and assuming that you eat correctly) and animal foods are not the culprit. You need to eat foods to avoid inflammation and you can be a bad vegan as you can be a bad meat eater.




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  12. Here is the problem. When people call themselves meat eater, they will eat junk foods, processed foods, sugar and eat no fruits and vegetables. When they switch to veganism then they get rid of the junk foods and start to eat a lot of fruits and vegetables and herbs, grain, bean, nut, seed, etc.. No wonder why they feel a lot better. Why don’t people eat healthy meat and seafood and healthy fat and fruits and vegetables and herbs, grain, bean, nut, seed, etc.. Then you will be at the top of your health. But don’t eat badly and then blame on a particular diet.




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    1. One of the best studied eating plans is the DASH Diet. They reported clearly that people felt better in the DASH. They were fed 3 different eating plans and all food was provided. Great series of studies. Over 600 pubs on in it PUBMED.

      May your pressure be low!

      CE Grim MS, MD Specializing in Difficult Hypertension

      Available for video consult at




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      1. Any diet other than the SAD diet is better. And don’t mix up animal food eating with SAD. Technically you can eat a SAD Vegan diet too. A balanced diet is the best. That’s what the Asians eat and I don’t know what is called but it is not just munching sweet potatoes like the myth says.




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  13. I know that this is not vegan but organ meat (liver) is the only source of real vitamin A which is needed for the eyes. Carrot and sweet potato contain Beta Carotene which has to be converted to Vitamin A very inefficiently. Google for it.

    Beta carotene is not vitamin A just like Omega 3 is not DHA.




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    1. You may be surprised to learn that, but natural plant pigments such as xanthophylls accumulate in the macula of the eye and they provide protection against age-related macular degeneration. Some of the plant pigments are converted into vitamin A, they are called precursors. Indeed, some people convert the carotenoids better than the others. You should have some fat with your meals, also your body has the best access to carotenids in vegetables when they are cooked, chopped, pureed, or juiced.




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      1. I am not saying that beta carotene cannot be converted to Vitamin A but it is an inefficient process, especially when you get old. While organ meat contains pure Vitamin A. I know that it is not vegan to discuss this but this is a nutrition site unless I am mistaken and it is a vegan site.

        And from an ethical point of view, organ meat is leftover food and you do honor the animals by eating everything.




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  14. So with the latest news you have been posting on arsenic in rice, I guess you would have to redo this with another grain? Would results vary or is rice the magic? If rice is magic, do you swap blindness for cancer? Geez….




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