Doctor's Note

The EPIC study mentioned in the beginning is a reference to Meat and Weight Gain in the PANACEA Study. The grape juice study is from Fat Burning Via Flavonoids, and the nut study from Nuts and Obesity: The Weight of Evidence. For more on the “moderation kills” concept, check out Heart Attacks and Cholesterol: Dying Under Normal Circumstances, and Trans Fat, Saturated Fat, and Cholesterol: Tolerable Upper Intake of Zero. Stay tuned for Monday’s Biblical Daniel Fast Put to the Test.

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  • The EPIC study mentioned in the beginning is a reference to Meat and Weight Gain in the PANACEA Study, the grape juice study is from Fat Burning Via Flavonoids and the nut study from Nuts and Obesity: The Weight of Evidence. For more on the “moderation kills” concept, check out videos like Heart Attacks and Cholesterol: Dying Under Normal Circumstances and Trans Fat, Saturated Fat, and Cholesterol: Tolerable Upper Intake of Zero. Stay tuned for Monday’s Biblical Daniel Fast Put to the Test.

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  • I learned the translation as “grain.” It was wheat — spelt or kamut, I think.
    I, personally, like the Biblical angle; though, it’s definitely an approach that should be considered for certain people or situations, only. Religion is too fiery a topic sometimes!

    • Elvin

       Strix: On page you


      ‘This is just on of the reasons why I wonder — struggle
      with — why the No-fat doctors continue to insist that fat is bad. It really
      boggles my mind. In my opinion, at best, they are derelict in recommending no
      fat. I also find it morally incomprehensible, especially since I suffered from
      following that recommendation for years. I just hope I don’t pay any more than I
      already have in the future!’


      You were then asked by April Lillie : ‘What side effects
      did you have from the low fat diet?’ You did not answer. I myself then asked
      you. You did not answer. I then asked a second time. Again you did not


      The civil thing to do is: either answer the question or
      retract the accusation.

      • Toxins

        Elvin, i have seen you post this several times. What is your obnsession with this question? Leave Strix be

      • Eclecticwhyzas

        I’ll reply for Strix. I have MS.  The MS diet is notoriously low in fat. I was panicked and willing to do whatever it took heal. Mind you, this is seriously low fat, not no fat. And the same for meat. After 6 weeks I had lost 28 pounds. The problem was this: I weighed 168 at the start. I’d been a fit gymnast and weighed 160 for 40 years. I wasn’t losing fat–I was losing muscle. I was evaporating and my body was eating itself. The theory was that one needed to do this for two years to “come out of it”. I’m certain I would have died before then. Fearful and paranoid, I started to add the dreaded fat back into my diet. It took over a year to rebuild the loss of muscle but I did and as my strength returned I ate more dreaded fat and protein and my symptoms abated.  10 years later I am quite healthy and have more energy than most. I know this: Some people do well on one diet.  Some people do well on another. Mind your own diet. Don’t preach what you don’t understand. Don’t recite another’s philosophy because you have adopted it as your own. Live your own life following the rules that speak to you and let others do the same. Eskimos may live on blubber but I don’t recommend it for others. Studies are studies. Even if a vast majority of people do well on one diet, be assured, there are those that didn’t. YOU don’t know who that might be. Nor does anyone else. 

        • Han

          This is an unverifiable claim.

  • Elvin

    Those interested can see various renditions of the verse into English here: . And beginning from about the middle of the page there is discussion of that ‘vegetable/pulse ….’ word

  • Blondieroberts06

    This study confuses me, if youll read Daniel 1:15…And after ten days their faces appeared fairer and fatter than all the children that ate of the king’s meat.

    So where does it say that eating the vegetables and drinking water made their waistlines smaller than the people who ate the kings meat?

    Although Daniel 1:20 does say……In every matter of wisdom and understanding, concerning which the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and enchanters who were in all his realm.

  • Just2eve

    “Thou shall not for the sake of food destroy the work of God. ….It is right not to eat meat… Thou shall not eat with offense… If just one finds it offensive, it is not right.” -Romans 14:20. One of my fav verses. Do not kill, period. A natural death is not offensive, so would be okay.

  • LKSkinner

    Shavua Tov – A good week to one and all!
    The modern translation of zeraim זרעים  is seeds or kernels, but my Artscroll Bible (Tanach) does use “pulse” in the translation of Daniel.
    So Daniel and his companions abstained from the king’s rich food and were healthier eating pulses. This recent nutrition trial gives us a modern version with similar healthy results. Hmmm, I wonder if they were living on hummus and techina?

  • Michael Ciantar

    I like to see how they worked exactly the foods available  then and of course there are  no details. Replicate as a study a  line  in the bible where they gave them food.  


    awesome, thank YOU for providing this insight into Bible based evidence because many church families are more obese than general public and could benefit from this great. I know I will use it in my many public appearances on preventing and controlling Diabetes and heart disease etc. THANK you!! Nancy Rodriguez RN,BSN, CDE, CEO, LIDERr Wellness Foundation,NFP org ( community, evidence, AND faith based )..& Plant Strong !

  • A wise take on “having dominion” over the earth. It also implied responsibility.

  • Annoyed by PaleoDolts
  • Grizzly Bear mom

    When Daniel refused the king’s meat it means he refused rich foods, probably including meat, sweets, wine, etc. that would tempt him away from his Jewishness toward Babylonianism.

  • zipopo

    learning the bible in Hebrew in a jewish school in Israel. Zeroim means seed or legumes…

  • Annoyed by Paleofraud

    Apparently there were a lot of vegetarian Jews 2000 years ago who rejected temple sacrifice when Jesus came along to head the group. After Jesus freed the animals from the temple slaughterhouse, the issues of vegetarianism and eating at the table of demons split early Christianity apart. For a great read on this