Doctor's Note

I documented the extraordinary Kempner story previously in Kempner Rice Diet: Whipping Us Into Shape and Drugs and the Demise of the Rice Diet. The reason I keep coming back to this is not to suggest people should go on such a diet (it is too extreme and potentially dangerous to do without strict medical supervision), but to show the power of dietary change to yield tremendous healing effects.

The best way to prevent diabetic blindness is to prevent or reverse the diabetes in the first place. See, for example:

Why wouldn’t a diet of white rice make diabetes worse? See If White Rice is Linked to Diabetes, What About China?

For more on the nitty gritty on the actual cause of type 2 diabetes, see:

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  • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

    Fantastic! The development of diabetic retinopathy runs parallel with the metabolic havoc,
    and the retinal changes are indicators as to the effectiveness and success of
    the treatment, and when state of the art therapy only offers slowing of
    progression of the changes in the retina, one can only be impressed by the
    results of a plant based diet.

    And modern treatment – photocoagulation – destroying parts of the retina and then hoping
    to increase blood flow to other parts of the retina, is like removing one
    hemisphere in the brain to increase blood flow to the other hemisphere to
    prevent a stroke :-) Modern treatment……

    • Julie

      This “modern treatment” scares the heck out of me, as my daughter has Type 1 diabetes. As a doctor, what do you think it is about the rice diet that works? Meaning, what dietary guidelines should my daughter follow that will really keep her retina healthy?

      • Veganrunner

        I think it is more that the rice diet doesn’t include any animal or dairy. But it is a whole food plant-based diet. Correct me if I’m wrong Dr. plant! (Are you sleeping already! I just had my coffee)

        • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

          Late afternoon here. Jetlag :-) – just home from Washington D.C.

      • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

        Sorry to hear that. On the other hand I know of type 1 diabetics living long “healthy” lifes without complications. Dont consider this medical advice, but just my thoughts. The key word is control of the blood sugar – that of course includes insulin. Regarding type 1 diabetes, which is a serious condition, you have to work close with a skilled physician. As Veganrunner points out a healthy diet is crucial. A diet that improve control of blood glucose, blood pressure and cholesterol number may help in preventing retinopathy. In case of hypertension it has to be treated (diet or medication). Smoking is totally forbidden. I dont have hands on experience with treating type 1 diabetics, but perhaps Dr. Dynamic or Dr. Forrester have some experience? Best wishes PSDoc.

      • MikeOnRaw

        Robbie Barbaro is a type 1 diabetic that shares his plant based life confronting and controlling his diabetes as Mindful Diabetic Robby.
        The best dietary guidelines are zero animal products, limited to no processed foods and whole plant foods.

      • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

        Hi Julie. PCRM has a fact sheet on type 1 diabetes. One study found a connection between risk of type 1 DM and cow’s milk protein in infants. This study does not reflect adults and how they can manage Type 1 DM, but I use it to show there seems to be a link between cows milk and risk of Type 1 DM in infants. If this study holds true I think avoiding cow’s milk and dairy protein may be helpful for those with type 1 diabetes. Also, to follow Plantstrong’s suggestions regarding Dr. Forrester here are his thoughts on diabetes from an earlier comment.

        • Julie

          Probably not a coincidence that she doesn’t drink milk because it makes her feel yucky.

        • Parissa M.

          Hi, I was just reading a book about diabetes and retinopathy. According to this book, retinopathy has direct association with tight blood glucose control and number of years from onset of disease. Meaning that less tight blood glucose control, and more years from onset of disease would predispose individual more to diabetic retinopathy. Most important is constant blood glucose control, which can be achieved by following low glycemic whole foods diet, and avoiding empty calories food (snacks). This is an interesting study about carotenoids and antioxidants and their role in diabetic retinopathy. Nutrition and Metabolism

        • HereHere

          Have you viewed the video Simply Raw: Reversing Diabetes in 30 Days? There is a bit of a surprise ending, in that one of the patients who was assumed to have type 2 actually had type 1, and is one of a small handful of patients that the doctor had seen reversal of diabetes to the point of not requiring insulin. I wonder what your thoughts are on that. I want to be clear, reversal does not mean ‘cure’. I forget the MDs name, but his clinic is the Tree of Life in Arizona.

          • Rebecca Cody

            I was going to share this information as well. The doctor is Gabriel Cousins and the clinic is in Patagonia, AZ. The man who you talk about actually went to school and became a naturopathic doctor after that experience. The diet is all raw vegan. I personally don’t think it has to be all raw, but maybe I’m wrong. I couldn’t keep warm on an all raw diet in the Pacific Northwest.

          • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

            Gabriel Cousens M.D. is his name. I have heard of his work, but unaware of any published research.

      • VegCoach

        Julie, I’m sorry to hear about your son’s condition. I believe what it is about the rice diet as the others have said, is that there is no meat or dairy in it. By eating a whole food plant-based diet it has been shown that in people with type 1 diabetes, insulin intake can be reduced by as much as 50%. Also, an interesting fact is that the correlation between type 1 diabetes in children and dairy is stronger than the correlation between lung cancer and smoking.

        Both Drs Neal Barnard and Joel Fuhrman have excellent books on reversing Type 2 diabetes, (or a lessening of the effects of Type 1). they include background science, recipes and lifestyle suggestions. Check out
        Cutting out the cause, (meat/dairy saturated fat and cholesterol) is a good start, but adding in foods with high nutritional value has a huge roll in the reversal and mitigation of symptoms.

        VegCoach, Nutritional Therapist, certified Plant-based nutrition

        • VegCoach

          Sorry Julie, I mean your DAUGHTER’S condition – not your son’s.

        • Julie

          Thanks VegCoach! While I am aware of the strong correlation between type 1 diabetes and dairy, I didn’t know that it’s stronger than the correlation between lung cancer and smoking. Do you have the reference for that?

      • sf_jeff

        A couple possibilities to throw out there. I am not saying these would help, but may be worth further research.
        Even if not part of the problem, good cardio vascular health may help with defenses. Five minutes of exercise 5 times a day would be something to try.

        If the sugar spikes cause oxidative stress, then you can fight it with antioxidants. Try adding a cup of tea, hibiscus tea, a few blueberries, or similar whenever going without food for more than 3 hours or so (for the general antioxidant protection) and a little bit before a meal that will cause a spike.

        • Julie

          Thanks, sf_jeff. I think that anything we can do that’s healthy, like exercise and antioxidants, should have some benefit on eye health. Since glucose causes problems because it’s an oxidant, makes sense to load up the diet with antioxidants–which have so many health benefits anyway.

          • sf_jeff

            Thanks for the response! Do you have anything to report on the last 8 months? I am really hoping things have been working out for your situation.

    • kestercreates

      That’s not actually the point to PRP (photocoagulation). And while diet, exercise, supplementation and lifestyle should ALWAYS come first, PRP should not be feared to vilified. As a type 1 diabetic for close to 40 years, we need every aspect of help to be considered….

  • I can’t help but be ever more appalled at modern medicine. Where profit comes before health every time. It’s truly sickening!

  • fwalker8

    Totally astounding!

  • HaltheVegan

    Now this is the kind of information that is truly inspiring to improve one’s diet. Thank you for sharing your research with millions of people through this website and your lectures.

  • Veganrunner

    Who doesn’t love a story like this? Pass me the melon!

    • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

      Dr. G is the best!

  • Julie

    My precious daughter is a Type 1 diabetic. I would love to know exactly what components of the rice diet reverse diabetic retinopathy, and what components of a standard diet cause it.

    • Veganrunner

      Julie there are a couple of theories. Have you read by chance The China Study? There is a great section on just that question. I was reviewing it last night.

      • Julie

        Thanks Veganrunner. I’ve heard so much about The China Study; guess now’s the time to read it!

        • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

          Get “WHOLE” at the same time – the two books are a must for people interested in diet and health.

    • Mark G

      It was started several times that it was unclear which individual aspect of the diet was responsible. And it could have been a combination of the factors. Wouldn’t the best bet be to adopt a whole-food plant-based diet, especially since many plant foods have benefits that support the eyes? Seems like trying to cherry pick what might have been the single thing (if there is one) is unnecessary and not the healthiest approach.

      • Julie

        Yeah but the Rice Diet is very restrictive. Conversely, just because the rice diet works, doesn’t mean that just any WFPB diet works. See what I’m getting at?

    • Panchito

      I think the video was about to type II treatment (different cause). But maybe, instead of knowing what to add, the right question would be what to take out. Doctors are usually taught to give medication instead of investigating the cause. Fruit and rice are not medications.

    • MikeOnRaw

      I suggest reviewing the other articles in the doctors notes section. There is one link that is specifically discussing white rice and why it’s interaction in Diabetes is likely zero and the real problem is animal products.

    • Joe

      Hi Julie, I have radiation-induced retinopathy after a radiation treatment damaged a few capillaries. It saved my eye, and I can still see 80%, which is great considering that most people loose most of their vision. This positive outcome was probably due to my age, and also all the dietary changes and supplements I take. The doctors are pleased, but there is still much to do to halt and reverse it. It is very similar to diabetic retinopathy in that radiation has damaged the DNA of the endothelial cells lining the capillaries – whereas for diabetics it is the high sugar levels that cause a similar problem.

      The main thing is to control that blood sugar, so as to stop the trigger – but there is a lot you can do to strengthen the capillaries / endothelial lining. A whole foods plant based diet is great because it is rich in phytochemicals like flavanoids which directly strengthen the capillaries. It’s also rich in fibre, which helps keep the blood sugar more stable by slowing absorption. Conversely, refined products like flour, sugar and oil – and too much meat and dairy can cause inflammation and damage to the endothelial lining, and upset blood sugar levels. I don’t know if meat is so much to blame – some research certainly suggests it does contribute to this inflammation. But definitely refined foods, and also any food allergies will cause damage to the endothelial lining. Personally, I don’t eat gluten or dairy or soy as they are the main allergens – I eat meat occasionally, but I fill up on vegetables, fruit, rice and berries and a few beans, with some hemp protein in the morning. Research anything to improve microcirculation and capillary health.

      Useful supplements to research would be pycnogenol, which is used alot for diabetic retinopathy – also grape seed extract, and Gingko biloba have a strengthening effect on capillaries. I also use a product called Flavon jam – the protect and the green versions – which I’m pretty sure has had a strong positive effect. Megafood also do an excellent vision supplement called Vision strength, and there are many great supplements out there (just go with whole food and herbs and nothing synthetic). There are also treatments like Bemer treatment (youtube it for positive eye stories) and microstimulation which has had a few positive studies, mostly for macular degeneration. HBOT therapy is also a consideration, but there are some possible side effects apparently.

      Still, those are all for people actively trying to heal a disease condition. Avoidance is preferable and has to start with diet – with the focus on whole plants. There are even reports of people reversing Type 1 diabetes. Gabriel Cousins at the Tree of Life (who has reported many Type 2 reversals) has said that he has seen at least 1 reversal at his clinic if I remember correctly. Check out the documentary on this, and Esselstyn’s TED talk on reversing heart disease and repairing the endothelial lining.

      • Julie

        Thank you Joe, for your thorough reply. Lots of good ideas there! It looks like all those phytochemicals in whole plant foods and some supplements are key for healthy strong blood vessels. Thanks for telling me about Flavon jam–never heard of it before. From my research, it looks like another good one may be astaxanthin, as this super antioxidant easily crosses into the retina.

        I agree with you on avoiding gluten, dairy and soy as they can harm the intestinal lining, promote leaky gut and incite the immune system (peanuts are also “good” at this). I’ll look into the treatments you mentioned to familiarize myself with them.

        We will keep doing what we can. Best of luck with the healing protocol for your eyes!

    • HereHere

      I would recommend Dr. Barnard’s book on Reversing Diabetes. That’s where I would start, but the China Study and/or Whole are good with respect to overall health and the range of common maladies.

    • Michael Gaines

      I don’t get it at all. Rice is carbohydrate. Carbohydrates convert readily especially white rice into sugar.

      Now someone tell us how Sugar reverses diabetes or any of its symptoms. This is almost nonsensical to me.

      I’ve seen many clinical studies that indicated a diet with saturated fat in the absence of refined carbohydrate & sugars finds great benefit to lowering both blood sugars & insulin levels in type 2 diabetics.

      If the complications are a result from high sugars destroying the internal organs such as kidneys, heart, arteries, & eyes — why would anyone encourage more sugar?

      High sugar is a symptom not cause of diabetes. Insulin resistant people are know to “overly” secrete insulin for any carbohydrates or sugar consumed. It’s this over secretion that leads to the metabolic disorder.

      Clearly it makes more sense to limit carbohydrates, especially starch based ones, to immediately address high sugars in your body. This also slows or reduces insulin secretion. It’s a deadly combination to have both high insulin and high blood sugar flowing within your veins. It’s believed thst high levels of insulin create inflammatory disease in our veins and arteries. Once inflammation creates an interior lesion small particulate LDL (very bad) sticks to the lesions and can buildup into a clogged area as more of them attach and build the blockage over time.

      LDL is considered bad cholesterol, but that not correct. LDL is an essential cholesterol just as is HDL. Without either you would surely deteriorate and die. What’s critical is the quality of your cholesterol. LDL large particulate is considered neutral because it does not stick to lesions in your veins that occur due to inflammation.

      So it’s key to get inflammation under control and we know high insulin levels promote an inflammatory response. It should be clear to even healthy people thst if they eat to much refined carbohydrates or sugars they too will have to secrete more and more insulin to normalize blood sugars. They too are suceptable to high insulin inflammatory response; even with normal glucose levels…

      E.g., two people go to the doctor. He checks each patients blood sugar levels. Both patients show a 95 blood sugar, & the doctor gives each of them a shinny star… But that’s just wrong!!! Why? The doctor doesn’t know that one of these patients has X2 or x3 or more insulin flowing to maintain that spot check 95 reading. It’s the excess insulin that is clearly causing the problems from my perspective and other doctors and studies have shown.

      So again, please someone tell me how refined carbohydrates or sugars address solving or reversing these conditions. I truly don’t get it from a technical perspective…

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        • Michael Gaines

          It’s a good video & has some good points. But I’m wondering when you contrast it out with positive clinical studies that equally prove the benefits of high fat low carb especially in people already prone to insulin sensitivity or type 2 diabetes what it all really means???

          I’m using a ketogenic diet to control my diabetes and impressively well without my insulin now for 8 weeks…

          I’ve not considered this beta cell issue though and studies showing a coorelation between beta cell death and high fat.

          Also this study referred to an omnivore diet comparison. Omnivore’s eat everything to include sugars and carbohydrates to an excess.

          I liked this video, but it still doesn’t answer the question I had… How is it anyone can claim rice which converts to sugar improves type2 diabetes?

          • Thea

            Michael: I can’t tell you what would be right for you. I would think you would need to work with a knowledgeable doctor (one who understands nutrition) if you want to safely (safe both short and long term) address the root cause of your Type 2 diabetes. But I’ll try to take a stab at answering this: “How is it anyone can claim rice which converts to sugar improves type2 diabetes?”

            In the following video, Dr. Greger explains what causes Type 2 diabetes:

            As the video explains in detail, the answer is saturated fat – not “sugar”. When you go on a low-fat, plant-only diet (meaning you can’t just eat rice along side a burger), you start to clean out the fat from your cells. So, by eating rice and sweet potatoes and beans (be sure to check out the 2nd meal effect for beans!!!!), you are not eating a lot of fat and thus you begin to truly reverse diabetes. When your body converts rice to “sugar” (we are not talking table sugar here, but the food your body’s cells thrive on), it is only a problem if that food can’t get into the cells. Once your cells clean out, the cells can properly “eat” the food/glucose/(what you are calling “sugar”) that they need instead of having it floating around in your blood and causing all sorts of havoc.

            I’m just a lay person. So, take this post for whatever it is worth. But I think I got the gist of it correct. And if you have been reading the comments, you will know that Dr. Barnard’s clinical study, published in a peer reviewed journal, had 3 times the success rate of dealing with Type 2 diabetes over the ADA diet. The ADA diet cautions being careful of “carbs”. Where as Dr. Barnard’s diet encourages people to eat a plate full of beans, (intact!) whole grains, veggies and fruit. To learn about Dr. Barnard’s success and get recipes, check out this book:

            Or you can join the free 21 Day Kickstart program. (But I wouldn’t do that without a doctor’s supervision, because a healthy diet can have dramatic effects on people with Type 2 diabetes. It is my understanding, a person in your situation needs to be supervised when switching to a healthy diet.)

            Hope that makes sense. If not, I don’t think I have anything more for you. Good luck.

          • Michael Gaines

            That was a good thoughtful reply, thank you.

            I’m a pretty logical guy though. So if it’s really fat clogging cells why is it fat bariatric patients, eating high fat diets are cured within a few weeks? You would think nothing is cleaning their cells of this fat, & you would think the high fat they eat would keeps their cells nonresponsive to insulin. Yet it does not?

            You would think logically if fat was indeed the culprit, more fat would make the symptoms of the disease worse… Yet it improves the immediate symptoms of the disease and tons of people are finding their disease in remission or cured on high fat diets…

            This is what I’m struggling with. I don’t want to use another single unit of insulin to keep my sugar levels normal. High fat is doing this for me very nicely…

            What part of starch or even high nutrient rich veggies in the absence of fat scrubs cells of fat? Or since dietary fat only slightly raises LDL how is it this slight increase results in such large increases in insulin sensitivity.

            We likely have more work to do here to understand these issues. One thing is clear we have plentiful subjects which to test and measure from in clinical scientific studies.

          • Thea

            Michael: re: “One thing is clear we have plentiful subjects which to test and measure from in clinical scientific studies.” :-) or should I say, :-(

            re: “So if it’s really fat clogging cells why is it fat bariatric patients, eating high fat diets are cured within a few weeks? You would think nothing is cleaning their cells of this fat, & you would think the high fat they eat would keeps their cells nonresponsive to insulin. Yet it does not?”
            I’m no expert, but here is my understanding: While a high fat diet may *cause* diabetes, once you get that problem, then you have a problem with eating carbs, because those carbs can’t be absorbed correctly. So, if you eat a high fat diet, with no carbs, then you aren’t going to see those blood sugar spikes. Because you aren’t eating the “sugar” for it to spike. That doesn’t mean that your body is not properly regulating the glucose. It just means that you have successfully treated the symptom, at least in the short term. (The reason I say short term is that nothing has been done to fix the cause and thus the disease often progresses. Or if the person were somehow religious about never eating carbs, then I would expect the long term effects of a nutrient-poor diet combined with the long term problems of the whole keytone thing to rear its ugly head.)

            I totally understand your goal of wanting to stay off the drugs, including insulin. It is a laudable goal. And of course, I can’t say what is right for you. I hope you are able to find a way to stay off that insulin safely.

          • Michael Gaines

            Thanks for hoping I can stay off insulin.

            The only other thing is that bariatric patients do in time return to normal diets and they too don’t have diabetes after losing their weight. It’s believed it’s the loss of organ fat on of both the pancreas & liver are key to reversing type2 diabetes… cells die and are relished every day of our lives. What would make new ones get more clogged do quickly if blood lipids are normal? Do I Tend To Think THERE May Be SOMETHING To Say ABOUT Organ FAT VERSUS BODY FAT.

          • Michael Gaines

            That’s a nice response… But the operative word you used was “may” cause diabetes. I’ve read an article that says it’s true a fatty acid does indeed seem to be causing arterial inflammation and may promote insulin sensitivity. But the article on this clinical test stated the fatty acid is not a dietary one. It’s created in the liver, only when the liver is working to store excess sugar energy into body fat. So it’s our livers that produce this fatty acid only in the presence of excess body fat…. Wow… That was shocking— it sort of makes us both right…

          • Christy Penleric

            Dr Greger has many videos explaining diabetes the causes and cures. He explains the science behind every thing he says. I think you just want proof that eating meat and fat is they way to go. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink.

          • Michael Gaines

            Thank you another good response. But– I’ve given LF a good 90 days without success. My blood sugars hit the roof. Also, I had the worse blood results ever eating a low fat diet. When I eat a high fat diet all my cholesterols improve… (Now explain that– I don’t get it either) But it seems to not be an uncommon thing with people eating high protein or high fat low carbohydrate meals….

            Another thing that makes me wonder… Is if it’s Dietary Fats that clog our cells, you would think consuming more of it would make ones diabetic symptoms worse–not better. If were breast fed when born we are eating a very high fat diet from mothers milk too… as nature intended… But it’s indeed odd– that diabetic symptoms improve and don’t get worse. I have read a number of article that state little of our dietary fat gets into our blood streams. Most of it in the blood stream comes from our livers own ability to put it there on a daily basis.

        • Michael Gaines

          This refers to fat possibly damaging beta cells in the pancreas and limiting insulin production. Most tupe2’s don’t have limited production of insulin.

          This does not answer how rice, or starches or sugar help diabetes.

          Show me where starch diets or sugar diets reverse diabetes safely…

          • davidhbarr

            Your experience seems to be out of line with some experimental results. People have different definitions for what a low fat diet is. Did the LF diet you followed for 90 days consist of legumes, whole grains, vegetables, fruit, and a small amount of nuts or seeds, without oil or processed food, for example, no juices which are not a whole food, hummus which is half oil, no low fat cookies whose sugar hurts blood vessels, no diet soda whose fake sugar confuses the body, etc.? Most dieticians consider a LF diet to be about with 20% calories from fat and processed food being okay but these experiments are usually done with 10% calories from fat and whole foods, which is a different diet.

            Since a high animal product diet correlates with a number of other serious diseases over the long run besides diabetes, this is an important issue. It might worthwhile to do a consult with one of the doctors that can be found on the “Contact us” link at the bottom of this Web page. Might provide a more dynamic give-and-take that will help resolve the issue, either way, for you.

  • Brian Humphrey

    Thank you Dr. Greger and Staff!!

  • HemoDynamic, MD – NF Volunteer

    Unfortunately big medicine has not only forgotten but has tried to erase what Walter Kempner has done. I am referring to Duke university stopped using the rice diet in 2002 and then all funding dried up in 2013. If you can’t patent plants you can’t make any money off of the treatment. As one of my coworkers said before, “Remember sick people pay our bills. “It’s really sad when money interests overtake human interests, especially in medicine.
    Great piece of work!

    • Gary Giovino

      When will the contingencies of reinforcement be changed? Has anyone seen Escape Fire?

      • Parissa M.

        I have watched it.. very important message regarding practicing medicine.

    • sottolaw

      It’s worse than that. Not only has Duke abandoned Kempner, they’ve embraced Westman and his low carb dogma instead!!

      • Charzie

        Gee, whatever can their motive be? Truly sad!

      • Michael Gaines

        Yes but low carbohydrate works especially well for diabetics. I’ve eliminated over 280 insulin injections in the last 8 weeks alone. I’m highly in remission.

        I tried plant only and it worked okay too, but I found juicing green plants and eating them terribly unsatifying. So it was hard to stick to it.

        High fat, moderate protein low carbohydrate works very well for me. I uptake my fats in avocado, select meats (but I limit them or moderately eat meats… I don’t go TREX crazy) & I always include green low carbohydrate highly nutritious vegetables.

        My blood sugar start to rise, I eat an avocado or spoonful of coconut oil or eat a fatty meat and the sugar comes down quite quickly.

        I’ve never had a doctor tell me I’m not secreting enough insulin so I don’t have a clue if beta cells are impacted here. Is there a test for that? Most type2 diabetics have copious insulin production it’s their body’s cells that refuse to let insulin in that is the problem… At least I think that’s right…

        • sottolaw

          Michael, your success on low carb won’t be sustainable long term. Check out McDougall’s work and recommendations. Greens alone will almost never satisfy. You’ve got to focus on starch — potatoes, rice, beans, bananas. Eat to satiety — the volume takes a little getting used to if you’re coming from SAD or a meat heavy, fat heavy diet.

          • Michael Gaines

            I can’t do that and eliminate insulin. if I eat a potato or any starch my sugars go over 300. I’m not willing to try that with a symptom of high blood sugar and requiring me to take insulin Injections.

            My interest is immediate relief of high blood sugar, low insulin levels and progressive weight loss. High FAT Low CARBOHYDRATE is achieving this for me now 8 weeks in a row. If I eat even a few beans my sugars rise to 160 to 170.

            Insulin injections only worsen dependency on needing more and more insulin to regulate sugars.

            What is long term? I shooting normal blood sugars now with high fat for 8 weeks in a row without fail… As I burn more and more body fat I will also burn pancreatic and liver fat which both contribute to diabetes.

            But starches are like poison to my blood. I can’t even try that without taking 100 to 150 units of insulin or more a day.

            Still, nobody has explained how starches which convert into sugar in anyway cure or help diabetes. All the studies I’ve seen and there are many state starches and sugars only increase sugars into the blood streams of both healthy and diabetics alike.

            What’s in sugar that cure diabetes????? How can any reasonable person claim more sugar addresses or fixes a disease such as diabetes?

            Lipotoxicity may apply if one isn’t secreting enough insulin but most type 2’s secrete way to much insulin…

            A diabetics goal is to lower glucose and insulin simultaneously. Sugar does not achieve this in any manner that I can discern…

          • padutchrunner

            You should absolutely consult with Dr. McDougall — my understanding is that he is very responsive via email. Let me know if you are interested, and I’ll track down his email address for you.

          • sottolaw
          • Michael Gaines

            I’ll check out his lecture again. Maybe I missed something. I do recall watching him once and visiting his website. But it seemed on his website he wasn’t claiming any get of insulin quick programs by eating starches. I seem to recall him mentioning a means to potentially lower dosing diabetic drugs over unspecified periods.

            After being highly dependent on insulin and poorly controlled blood sugars I’m finally well controlled with a ketogenic diet. This is clinically clear with my experience…

          • Bryan Mclaughlin
  • Veggie Eric

    Amazing! I have such huge respect for Dr Kempner and his Rice n Fruit diet. Another great video Dr G!

  • Slim055 .

    Critics want to discount these important quality-of-life issues that typically get so debilitating as you age: Good vision, frequent and easy bowel movement and easier urination, low-normal weight, blood pressure, cholesterol, blood-sugar, much reduced susceptibility to colds & flu (15-20+ years for me). Combine this with much better mobility, no arthritis, greater ability to work and exercise and have stamina through the day.

  • Misterimpatient

    With regards to diabetes, are we talking about Type 2, Type 1 or both? Intuitively, I can see how this could have a big impact on sufferers of Type 2. It’s less obvious to me that Type 1 would benefit (of course they and everyone benefits from a whole foods plant based diet), with regards to the retinopathy.

    • MikeOnRaw

      Diabetic blindness can affect both Type 1 and Type 2. Reversal of the cause of blindness is valid for both Type 1 and Type 2. For type 2 a plant based diet can seemingly reverse diabetes. For type 1 a plant based diet can ease control, reducing the amount and frequency of insulin needed.

  • Janine Préfontaine

    The last words of this video gives me goosebumps… This is a great video full of wisdom. Thx Dr. Greger !

  • Dave

    Dr. Gregor,

    Thank you for the video, This could have been written about me. I was diagnosed with severe Hypertension and was a borderline diabetic Three years ago when I had a hemorrhage in my left eye.
    My vision went from 20/20 in both eyes to 20/200 and 20/400.

    I went on a plant based diet and my vision has come back to 20/30 and 20/35 with corrective lenses.

    The doctor that I am seeing has done all the treatments that you have in the video with injections and laser, but wont accept that my diet has played a major role in the improvements.

    Thanks again for your continued informative articles and videos.


    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Thanks for sharing, Dave. Glad you are feeling better and your eye health has improved!

  • Paul Miller, M.D.

    You are wrong on why PRP (Pan Retinal Photocoagulation). It is not to give more nutrients to the rest of the eye. It is to destroy hypoxic retina so it doesn’t send out VEGF (vascular endothelial growth factor) which will result in leakage, new weak vessels, scarring, and retinal detachment. You obviously did not talk to an ophthalmologist about this. This leads me to wonder if you know what you are talking about. For full disclosure, I am a vegan.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Thanks for letting us know, Dr. Miller! If something seems “off” in a video we always like to correct it ASAP. I’ll bring this to his attention.

      Thanks again,

    • Mike Quinoa

      Dr. Miller,

      To be fair to Dr. Greger, his quote on-screen (“Theories have suggested that PRP causes improvement in retinal oxygenation by elimination of a portion of the hypoxic retina (reducing demand for oxygen)”)
      is cited from a recent journal: Curr Opin Ophthalmol. 2014 May;25(3):164-70. He does verbalize as well that this is a “theory.”

      I would not expect Dr. Greger to get every single fact right in thousands of facts from hundreds of videos. One can certainly get the gist of his message loud and clear though, and therein lies the benefit to everyone of those extensive efforts.

      • Plantstrongdoc m.D.

        You are totally right. Attacking one single statement seems foolish and suggests ignorance.

    • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

      Dear Dr. Miller. You are obviously new to this site. If there are one unbiased doctor who knows what he is talking about it is Dr. Greger. BTW: Many treatments have very different theoretical backgrounds – as an MD you should be aware of this.

    • Jeffrey Baker

      Dr. Miller – Thank you for the correcting information. I completely switched to WFPB diet after finding and vetting this site 2 1/2 years ago. It is very important to me that Dr. Greger consistently present the best evidence and the best interpretation of it to inform our healthy dietary choices, which I think he does amazingly well. Nevertheless, maintaining credibility is key and I appreciate the knowledge you so generously shared, as well as the ongoing commentary by the regular physicians and a few incredibly knowledgeable non-physicians on this site. Hope to read more of your perspective in the future.

  • Mike Quinoa

    A stellar video—my eyes get moist just watching it. Thanks Dr. Greger, Joseph, posting MDs, and all the volunteers at NF. That one can access these videos for free still blows my mind.

  • Lawrence

    I had no idea that laser therapy was used as a preventative treatment for diabetic retinopathy for the past four decades. According to this Cochrane review, the treatment is effective in some people given limited research that met their criteria. What struck me was that proliferative diabetic retinopathy (PDR) is also related to additional growth of blood vessels, which got me thinking about anti-angiogenesis and our old friend VEGF. Sure enough, anti-angiogenic drugs are also used in treating PDR, the knowledge of which may be of use to some people before they subject themselves to much more invasive procedures.

    Of course, treating the cause may be the best option. But, I have to pull myself back from being too smug in this regard. Five or so years ago before I steeped myself in the diet and learning curve that got me to this website and a plant-based lifestyle, if I were staring down the prospect of going blind because my diabetes was getting ahead of ‘modern medicine’ to treat me, I would have gone under the laser. After all, laser eye surgery is ‘a thing,’ right? This situation is improving thanks to the ‘usual suspects.’ Truly, I am standing on the shoulders of Giants!

  • David Patz

    In the Rice diet, 13 of 44 patients had improvement (plus another 7 had one eye improve while the other got worse). This is by far, inferior to the benefits of photocoagulation therapy, though interestingly it does point out there is some chance of improvement with uninvasive measures. (and at the time of the study there were no other alternatives.) I think it would be misleading to advise a diabetic with proliferative diabetic retinopathy to rely on diet alone, without the ophthalmalogic therapies, though certainly it may be the best and important stategy for the treatment of the diabetes. Y.Yassur et. al. in Br. J. of Ophthalmol., 1980, Feb. 64 (2) p. 77-86, showed 71% had reduction of optic disc neovascularization with argon laser treatment.

    • Thea

      David Patz: re: “This is by far, inferior to the benefits of photocoagulation therapy.” I curious what the improvement rate for photocoagulation therapy is. And do you have any sources you can site? I’m also wondering if “improvement” would be counted/defined the same with the two treatments. Thanks for your thoughts.

    • Charzie

      Having been faced with health crises that eventually led me to a WFPB diet and dramatic healing on many fronts, I HAVE to say I only wish we could all learn this early in life to PREVENT disease before it becomes something that needs treatment. It is truly a sad statement about the de-evolution of dietary wisdom since the time of Hippocrates, the father of medicine.

    • Wade Patton

      And what if WFPB diet were used today to treat T2D? Then would we even GET to the point of eye trouble?
      In a word: NO.
      How does that figure in to your invasive techniques and statistics?

  • Rhombopterix

    New Zealand might be showing some leadership here:

    Little country with a lot of guts…at least this researcher is brave. What happens to you when you tell the truth about diet in a country whose economy is based on dairy/meat/fish ? We shall see.

    New Zealand led the way with anti-nuke movement. France murdered a Kiwi photographer when it blew up the Rainbow Warrior in retribution. I hope these brave scientists fare better with the likes of Fonterra!

    • Lawrence

      Kinda like comparing apples to atom bombs, eh? How wonderful it would be to get a 20% subsidy on fruit and veg offset by 20% taxes on salt and fat! That would be the Holy Grail for America, too. I wish you luck, but don’t hold your breath. It won’t be French commandos coming to scuttle your subsidies, it’s gonna be this…

      Btw, been to Auckland enroute to Melbourne. Stunningly beautiful island nation from the air, Hope to return someday/somelifetime. Take care.

      • Rhombopterix

        Yes too right. american tobacco fought us tooth and nail over package warnings. How will we ever withstand the demands of our new TPP “partners”. After some lip service the Beehive will bow to our new masters. I’m going to slither back to my clean green fjord and eat whole plant foods!

  • Tracie Linhart

    I reversed my Diabetic retinopathy. I juice fresh organic vegetables every morning. I eat more of a whole food diet consisting of fresh raw milk, cream & butter, from grass feed cows.

    • mark gillono


      there is no need for adult humans to consume mothers milk-especially not the milk of another species. it is not only the added hormones in cows milk which is extremely unhealthy, but also the saturated fat and animal protein-both of which are in abundance in all forms of dairy regardless of the source. here is an article on PCRM about milk:

      in addition, all forms of dairy production involve tremendous violence and exploitation. you can check out the truth behind the organic and “grass fed” industries here:

      • Tracie Linhart

        Have my own milk cows and consume fresh raw dairy daily. My animals live a happy life. Wouldn’t change a thing!

        • mark gillono

          forced artificial insemination (i.e. rape), mutilation (branding, de-horning) stealing their children and the food made for their children, sentencing the mothers and children to a brutal death when they have “outlived their purpose” at a very young age-despite your false perceptions, “your” cows would not in any way agree that they live a “happy life”.

          • Tracie Linhart

            I thought this discussion was about Reversing Diabetic Retinopathy. Just wanted to share what has worked for me.

            FYI I saved my 2 cows from factory farms and they are breed by a bull. My animals are not branded and don’t take anything into their bodies except for fresh organic grass.

            They are living long lives at my home, and I treat them as well. I hug and pet them and brush them daily…..They have clean beds, (Cleaned daily, with fresh straw and don’t sleep in their own feces like cows confined in factory farms.)

            There is a really good documentary about plant stimuli. Plants are living things too and respond to stimuli just like every living thing. Think about that the next time you take a bite of a salad.

          • mark gillono

            what happens to all calves for whom the milk was intended? the cows are certainly not making it for you or any other human but for their own children who likely will never receive one drop. what happens to the cows when they stop making “enough” milk to cover their expenses? “happy” slaves are still slaves, regardless of your perception of them.

            as far as the “plants have feelings too” nonsense, despite the fact that they have no central nervous system and are not sentient (i.e. basic biology), if you do want to avoid injuring plants the best way to do so is not to consume animal products as it requires killing FAR more plants by filtering their nutrients through someone else’s body rather than eating them directly. for example, if you think that plants feel pain they why are you OK with feeding the cows grass?

  • Michael Gaines

    Yeah I don’t get how rice (starch non nutrient rich. Food) cures this diabetic complication.

    I also don’t see how it lowers blood sugar levels unless it’s related to low caloric consumption every day.

    What were the before and after sugar readings post 2 hours of eating In his studies?

    • Stewart E.

      Michael I think you make a good point. In answer, I would point out that hyperglycemia is the result both of the amount of simple and complex carbohydrates and, critically for type 2 diabetics, insulin sensitivity. The advanced glycation end products from eating animal products does further inhibit insulin sensitivity and promotes insulin resistance. The saturated fats do as well. Having said that, I would contend that consistent modest intake of any complex carbohydrate would be good if not accompanied with animal products. This would allow for enhanced control for Type 1 and possible reversal for type 2 diabetes. Both would enhance the arrest of retinopathy through numerous mechanisms.

  • The Detonator

    Watching this video actually made me tear up. I can’t imagine that a person facing blindness and injections in the eyeball wouldn’t be excited and immensely relieved to learn that reversal is possible through diet. If a doctor anywhere doesn’t give a patient the chance to know this information and to make his/her own decision whether or not diet or barbaric treatments are preferable doesn’t deserve the label of healer.

  • Sindre

    My father has diabetes type 1, he`s had the disease for over 40 years, and lossed a lot of his vision due to this. I found your video about diet might be able to improve this therefore extremely interesting being a firm beliver myself that a plant based diet can do wonders. But is there a chance that it might help him? He has I think allready undergone the type of laser surgery that was disscussed in the video. I understand that it will dramatically help his diabetes in other ways, but the eye sight might be a game changer when it comes to getting him to give it a go.

    • Stewart E.

      Sindre, you are confronting something very difficult. I have had type 1 diabetes for over 40 years as well. My experience might be helpful.

      I learned to not assign the role of primary care giver to my doctors some 36 years ago when I came across an article in the Journal of Chronic Disease on the correlation of tight control and the side effects of diabetes. The article excited me because it showed me that there was something I could do about the problems of diabetes. However, it also infuriated me that my doctors had never told me about any such thing as a side effect. (We did have an animated discussion after that.) Then a few years later in the late 70s I was one of the participants in a study on the use of an insulin pump and in home blood testing. The pump was the size of a brick and I had to go to a saddle maker to have a holster made for it.

      In that small study one of the participants saw a dramatic reduction in his very advanced diabetic neuropathy. So good control is critical and that was the first I had known about the possibility of reversal of the “irreversable”. This tool gave me the power to do something about my condition to keep it from being a disease. So to this day I have no side effects of diabetes. My opthamologist told me a few years ago that he had never seen a diabetic beyond 10 years with no retinopathy.

      OK now for what this has to do with your father’s situation is this; I became my own primary care giver when I found that the doctors were going to prescribe a progression of drugs on top of the insulin without looking for any cure. No I do not expect the T1 diabetes to be reversed by diet but the disease portion of diabetes such as enhanced coronary artery disease, neuropathy, retinopathy, renal failure et al are preventable and reversible. I have good control with a relatively healthy version of the standard American diet and have improved that dramatically with a whole foods plant based diet so that the disease aspects have been kept at bay.

      Indeed my position is that Type 1 diabetes is bad luck coming from and a society ill informed about using animal products. However, the disease is based on ignorance. That is best cured with knowledge.

      All my story says is that certain actions will help. The question is why would one be motivated to become informed and therefore empowered to do something to keep the condition from becoming a disease. A stark choice must be presented. I think it simple as that. He should not be told to do something different with his control or diet but he should be made to understand what will happen if he continues with poor control. He should understand what he will loose if he does not change. Above all he should know that he can gain the knowledge to be empowered to control his own health. But only he can do this. Remember, knowledge is empowerment.

      Hope there is something here that is helpful.

      • Thea

        Stewart: That’s a very powerful post. I was riveted reading it. Thanks for taking the time to share your story. I’m sure it will help others.

  • Ray Tajoma

    Eye medical experts have “Intentionally forgotten”. They are bunch of Evil Crooks that make a good living fooling patients, lying and ignoring science for high profits. There is no profit in recommending a change in diet. Profit is in eye surgery.

  • Dorothy

    Can macular degeneration be slowed or reversed?

  • Occam3751

    Wow I found this really, really disappointing.

    While it is interesting to hear of this diet’s success with retinopathy, the claimed success rate is 30 percent.

    With modern surgical techniques, diabetic retinopathy can be kept from progressing to vision loss with a much, much higher success rate.

    Of course it is not an either/or and any nonsurgical means to success is great. But wow, the language used to describe laser surgery is worthy of some uninformed self promoting hysteria monger or some antivaxxer, not Dr Geger. Any surgical procedure can be made to sound barbaric. In twisting the description of this highly successful treatment you might win some shock value points, but you lose credibility.

    I have been following you for about a year now and like and applaud your work. But if this were the first exposure I had to you, I’d write you off completely. And I’d also write off whatever you were promoting, so to my reading at least your rhetorical strategy here really backfired.

    • The claimed success rate in that one experiment was 30%. How many of the people taking part in that experiment actually did the diet they were supposed to for 3 months – were there other health/environmental issues going on that affected them? I think the fact that 30% showed a definite improvement speaks volumes in itself and definitely warrants much further study, not dismissal.

      Yet here we are 50 years later with billions being spent on intrusive and destructive medical techniques and drugs while no money is being used to explore why 30% of this one study had an improvement.

      I believe this is the message Michael is putting out in this video – it’s certainly the one i get from it.

      And even if only 30% of patients do show an improvement (if they stick religiously to the prescribed diet) then why isn’t that being used as the first line of treatment in this disease? 30% of all cases could be improved and even reversed without any need for drugs or surgery, and a lowering of insulin needed and all the other health benefits that come from this diet. Yet modern health care professionals treating these people do not even offer their patients this option.

      I do sincerely think that before people like yourself criticise people like Michael for being a self promoting hysteria mongers you should maybe make a similar point publicly to the medical professionals who are far to quick to prescribe unnecessary drugs and invasive damaging surgical techniques when a simple diet/lifestyle change would have been far more effective for a lot of people.

      • Occam3751

        Miss Creant,

        I would appreciate it if you would read what I actually wrote here.

        I neither dismiss this study, nor do I call Dr Geger a “self promoting hysteria monger.” I criticized his choice of language in this one particular video.

        The surgical techniques used to treat diabetic retinopathy have a very high success rate and are no more butchery than any other surgery. The dietary results Dr Geger highlights are certainly worthy of further study. However, the tone he employs in this video damages his own cause and hurts his credibility. Which is what I actually said.

        • I would appreciate if you would read what i actually wrote.

          I didn’t say you ‘called’ Michael a self promoting hysteria monger. Yet you felt the need to deny doing so – no where in what i wrote did i say that or use the word ‘call’. And you are the only one to use the word ‘butchery’ in regards to modern surgery.

          You’re so utterly and pathetically transparent. I can see clean through your lame debating tactics. You have deliberately used two ‘straw man’ attacks to try and win two points which i didn’t actually make. Now why would you do that?

          Your whole second post here is only to attempt to gain your ego some self worth by convincing yourself that you’ve won these two points. Yet you cannot win these two points because they only exist within your own mind and i will not debate them with you because i didn’t make either of those points – you did that all by yourself, simply to win your own argument because you’re an egocentric idiot.

          What next, ad hominem attacks? :-D

          • Occam3751

            My point was and remains that Dr Greger does himself a disservice with his tenor in this video. That is all.

            What you said was, and I quote “… people like yourself criticize people like Michael for being a self promoting hysteria mongers [sic] …”. I concede that you did not use the word “call”. Let me restate my comment in a hopefully more satisfactory way.

            “I neither dismiss this study nor do I criticize people like Michael for being a self promoting hysteria mongers.”

            In my original quote I said the language was “worthy of” such a person, and NOT of Dr Greger. That means something different.

            Dr Greger referred to it as “barbaric burn out your socket surgery”. He did not use the word “butchery”. That is correct. I did not claim that he did, which is why I did not put that word in quotes. I guess we disagree on whether “barbaric burn out your socket” fits that description.

            I replied to your remarks not to win points against you (I don’t even know you, and am unlikely to post here regularly, so I’m not sure why anyone would be keeping score) I replied because you inaccurately suggested that I was dismissing the study, which I certainly don’t and I think I was pretty clear about that. You misrepresented what I was saying. In fact, I rather support the idea based on my own experiences. I also clearly stated that I’ve followed and appreciated Dr Gregers work for quite some time, and simply felt that his wording in this video was self defeating. This is sometimes known as constructive criticism.

            Now, as for stooping to ad hominems, I am far too “utterly and pathetically transparent” to be able to “gain [my] ego some self worth” with ad hominem attacks. I’m just not that kind of “egocentric idiot”. LOL, literally.

            As the only issues here only exist in my mind and you refuse to entertain them, seems our conversation is over. Good day.

          • Thea

            Occam3751: I thought your original post was likely allowable under this site’s rules. Whether I agree with you or not, if people don’t have the freedom to post disagreements with Dr. Greger (respectfully even if strongly), then this website would become intellectually dishonest.

            No one is right about everything, and Dr. Greger knows this. I know that Dr. Greger wants to hear when people think his videos are off in some way. He may not agree with people, but I know that Dr. Greger has remade some videos in the past when problems or errors are pointed out.

            I’m glad you have received some benefit from this site from previous videos and hope you will stick around despite the other feedback you have gotten on this page.

          • Thank you for correcting your statement. :-D

    • Thea

      Occam3751: Some thoughts for you.

      You are the second or so person to claim, “higher success rate”. But it seems to me that such claims can only be made if you know the actual success rate of the surgery and if the definition of success is the same. Do you know the success rate and have evidence to back it up? (I’m not trying to be aggressive. I’m just wondering if you actually know a scientifically reported number or if this claim of a higher success rate is just a gut feeling for you.)

      My second thought focuses on the definition of success. You wrote, “…diabetic retinopathy can be kept from progressing…” By this, I think that you are defining success as “does not progress”. But the video above is defining success as actually reversing the problem. I haven’t looked at the study myself, but here are some quotes from the transcript: “Reversal to such a degree that even patients who could no longer distinguish any objects had been able to read fine print.” and “…in 30% of the cases, their eyes improved.”

      It seems to me that we are talking apples (“does not progress”) and oranges (“improves”). Thus comparing success rates may not make sense??? I wonder what the success rate of the diet study would have been if it was a long term diet study that defined success as both improves AND does not progress?

      I may not be understanding something here. So, I’m interested in any clarification you may have on the matter or your thinking.

      • Along with success rates one would also have to factor in side effects and complications of both treatments. Laser photocoagulation gives rise to ‘not infrequent [side effects and complications such as] loss of peripheral vision, worsening visual acuity, reduced night vision, and hemorrhaging in the eye’ (from wikipedia). I don’t think a wholefood plant based diet side effects would be so severe.

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  • bsb1

    I find it “interesting” that in today’s modern world and in the medical field most doctors simply overlook the importance of diet and how vital it is to preventing a majority of disease states. Dr.Greger is one of the few exceptions.

  • Ray Tajoma

    All old age diet related diseases prove that we are Herbivores, that meat, dairy & eggs are not our natural food. For example if you pour 5-10% water in a brand new car’s gas tank, it will still run. But after awhile it will damage the internals of engine & big expensive problems surface that cannot be ignored. Same thing if you replace motor oil with olive oil. It may still run, but the car will not last as long and maintenance costs will go up as the car ages.

  • Joselinus

    Can a central serous retinopathy be reversed with nutrition? How? Thanks a lot

  • eyedude92

    for your patinets that will not have an injection in their eye for diabetic maculopathy try a combination of 12 mg of astaxanthin, 12 mg of lutein and about 1mg of zeaxanthin combined with a Triglyceride form omega 3 fish oil about 1600 mg. fu in six weeks with oct. I am sure it is the astaxanthin combined with omega 3 that crossed the blood retinal barrier that is giving the postive results we are seeing. Great anti inflammatory effects. also i must chime in on milk. Do a little research on the difference between a1 and a2 cows milk and you will see that the beta caseine produced from a 2 cows milk is safe when compared to the beta caseine (histidine) produced form a1 cows milk that converts to the harmful amino acid bcm-7. Bcm-7 is the part of a1 milk that is associated with type 1 diabetes and a host of other negative side effects. give your patients an all grass fed whey proetin concentrate derived from a2 cows only, you will see a marked increase in their glutathione level and this will help their overall health and retinal health. I see patients with non proliferative diabetic retinopathy improve daily when they adjust their diet, supplements and lifestyles without any laser, surgical or medical intervention.

  • Hungryman

    Recently, I have become a Vegan. I have given up: Meat, Dairy, Eggs, Milk, and Added Sugar. The reason is I have High Blood pressure and Diabetes. When I asked my Nurse-Practitioner if I needed Insulin he said dismissively, “no.” Now I have soars forming on my shoulders and arms. My right eye seems a little smaller and drips water. Are we sure about this diet, or is it done all-the-while on Insulin? Please! I would like a real answer, not theory.

    • Thea

      Hungryman: If you read the book, “Dr. Neal Barnard’s Program for Reversing Diabetes: The Scientifically Proven System for Reversing Diabetes without Drugs” you will see that eating a whole plant food diet to treat diabetes (and high blood pressure too for that matter–which can be explored in other sources) is truly based on science and real-life results in real humans with T2 diabetes. I highly recommend the book:
      Now, having said that, I don’t think absolutely everyone who went on the diet were able to get rid of *all* their medications. If memory servers, everyone or just about everyone saw great improvement, including lessening or no longer needing the insulin. But you won’t know what your paticular needs are without the proper tests. It’s hard to tell from your post, but it sounds like your nurse-practitioner made a guess. Did he actually do the tests to see if you still need insulin or not? It’s my understanding that it is a gradual process in terms of diet and knowing how to scale back meds.
      The other point I want to make is that you mention going vegan and what foods you are not eating. That’s a great start, but not sufficient to get healthy. You will be wanting to eat whole plant foods that are low in fat. Coke and Oreos are vegan. But those are not going to help you with your health problems. The book I linked to above includes a whole bunch of recipes in the back. Looking at those recipes will help you to understand what you should be eating, not just what you should not be eating.
      I hope that helps. And I hope you are able to get your problems under control soon.

  • John C

    kempner was one of the unsung heroes of modern science. I’m not fond of what happened after he died with the diet, but also recall he had some type 1 diabetics cured. he could never explain it though.

  • Jason

    So, I was diagnosed with retinopathy(prolif left, non prolif right) and had photocoagulation for my left. Through some research, it seems the biggest factor(as far as I can tell) is IGF-1, which taking insulin will raise. Meat will also increase IGF-1, which could account for it’s carcinogenic properties. It seems that the rice diet lowered insulin and meat, thereby dramatically increasing IGF-1. IGF-1 also seems to prefer an anaerobic environment. People with type 2 diabetes are typically larger and have a propensity to have sleep apnea as well, which can trigger the release of IGF and lead to increases in new growth in the eye, so that’s something to watch for, as well.

  • Mais Dieu merci, nous avons appris depuis que, grâce aux seuls moyens
    de l’alimentation , nous pouvons inverser la cécité.

    But thank goodness we’ve since learned that through dietary means
    alone, we can reverse the blindness

    ———-9 months ago I look this good news ….
    thank you very much to Katie Schloer (I could be your grandma)

    for his wonderful work of subtitling and transcription:
    ———-I live in
    France and I am so happy to understand with you tube video that are
    under understandably titled.

    ———I’m a little sad not understand the e book in English that I bought with
    kindle cloud reader but I can not use the web translators because the
    text is protected .have a solution?

    ———are there other videos or topics where we talk about the healing of eyes with food?

    I search in vain for evidence on that.

    would you references and doctors who work for the eyes with food?

    ********I do not know if my eyes will heal and how long but I believe deep
    within me that if power heals very sick hearts or cancer or diabetes
    should also “fix” me and anyway I have no other alternative for the hope
    of cure. I am 70 years old
    *********.I embrace you and thank you

    But God thank you, we have since learned that through the only means of feeding, we can reverse blindness.

  • general williams james

    This is what he said about the man who treated him of his diabetes

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    you. His email is and his phone number is
    +2349052015874. Just email, or call him.

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  • Judy Davis

    thanks so much!

  • davidhbarr

    Did patients with Type 1 diabetes participate in Dr. Kempner’s experiments? This seems like a key bit of information missing from the video.

  • Jayne

    Is it possible that the rice diet could help in AMD or Wet Macular Degeneration. I have both and get Lucentis injections into my eyes most months. However both eyes continue to deteriorate. Can diet help. I avoid meat and dairy and eat a high plant based diet. I would be interested in your thoughts?