Doctor's Note

Back by popular demand! In my last such video, Music as Medicine, I asked if this topic was of interest, and the response was overwhelmingly positive, so here you go—another installment! If there are ever subjects you wish I’d cover more, please just leave your suggestions in the comments section below.

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  • Wade Patton

    Endorphin levels going up is part of the appeal/reward of exercise as well, a point completely twisted in the comments to the results of techno.

    Of course this is all moot for a musician-like person who enjoys an extreme spectrum of music, listened to as well as performed (however coarsely). I personally got rid of a ton of stress hormones and BP spikes by turning OFF ALL broadcasts such that no more “news” and advertising or yappy “DJ’s” talking all over the songs I wanted to hear. There is no “tuning out” with out actually turning off for the ADHD.

    But just like “turning off” meat. Most folks won’t have anything to do with “tuning out’. They must be afraid they’ll miss something.

    They won’t.

  • Tom Zdrojewski

    Aside from the “self-selecting” study, did any of these take into account personal enjoyment? Some people can’t stand classical but love metal, some people hate metal but enjoy classical. Would that make a difference in how the music affects someone?

    • Tom Zdrojewski

      This video just raises so many questions for me. Like what area of music would something like Wardruna fall into? They’re big with metal fans, but follow a classical folk style.

    • Tara S

      Classical was the first metal. “/

    • joeboosauce

      Great question Tom! This study reminded me of a recent study publicized in June on just that!

      Very interesting video but this recent study showed the opposite with metal: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/22/listening-heavy-metal-punk-extreme-music-makes-you-calmer-not-angrier-study

      “A study by the University of Queensland, the Australian public research institution in Brisbane, revealed that rather than proving the hypothesis that “extreme music causes anger”, the theory that “extreme music matches and helps to process anger” was supported instead.”

    • That’s what immediately came into my head when he mentioned Techno. I love acid techno, i can totally chill out to it no matter how loud it is. If you made me listen to Mozart i’d get well pissed off.

      So it’s all back to subjectivity in the end – essentially.

      I run while listening to acid techno, speeded up to my cadence at 180bpm. If, as they point out, it increases endorphins, so much the better as far as i’m concerned.

      I certainly enjoy my running much more with the speeded up acid techno.

  • yak

    Some musical genres are not for everyone, you can’t just “test the effects of metal/jazz/techno/etc”. This is like trying designing a study to test the flavor of coriander…

  • elsie blanche

    OFF TOPIC BUT INTERESTING:

    Dr. G or anyone else….what does the science show/prove in regards to Manuka honey for
    its internal and external antibiotic properties? Is this “health food store quackery”, or is there
    actually something to it? I do know that vegans avoid honey, but know a lot of vegetarians
    who use it as a sweetener.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      There does seem to be some research, mainly on wound healing, as I think traditionally it’s been used topically. I’m not sure how that type compared to others, but our video on added sweeteners discus honey and from what I recall it’s not much better than sucrose. Date sugar and molasses appear best.

      • elsie blanche

        Do you consider it vegan and or plant based? In small amounts….delicious, but I have mixed emotions about eating honey, as far as fairness to bees.

        • joeboosauce

          Honey is not vegan and I can’t see it as plant-based since it comes from an animal.

          • elsie blanche

            Yes, I sort of agree, but I also have accepted that nori seaweed (and other seaweeds) contain bits of shellfish, thus making seaweed “not vegan.”

            For now I use medjool dates to sweeten, forgoing the honey, but from an anti-bacterial purpose, honey holds some interesting and possibly valid results, as opposed to taken certain pharmaceutical antibiotics.

          • fencepost

            The bulk of what is in honey comes from plants (nectar). Bees add small amounts of enzymes to honey. These enzymes are animal proteins. These enzymes contribute to the health benefits of honey (such as the enzyme that produces small amounts of hydrogen peroxide that helps kill germs).

          • Thule

            “In the hive, the bees use their “honey stomachs” to ingest and regurgitate the nectar a number of times until it is partially digested.[11] Invertase synthesized by the bees and digestive acids hydrolyze sucrose to give the same mixture of glucose and fructose. The bees work together as a group with the regurgitation and digestion until the product reaches a desired quality. It is then stored in honeycomb cells. After the final regurgitation, the honeycomb is left unsealed.”

            They need to regurgitate it many times, keep digesting regurgitate, back in.. more digestion, it is ingested and vomited many many times, by thousands of insects.

            (Yuk) :S

          • jj

            Because of all this regurgitation is organic sugar better when molasses and date sugar are not an option?

          • fencepost

            Ha ha! Yes, that is true about the honey stomach. When I was young, we had a neighbor who refused to eat honey because the bees had walked on it, and that is true for comb honey.

            On the other hand, there are some yuk factors with plants. The obvious one is that root crops are grown in dirt that is infested with countless micro-organisms. Above ground, we have insects and larger animals that chew on, spit on, walk on and poop on the vegetables you eat. Insects, like birds, tend to do their pooping while flying.

          • joeboosauce

            Still not vegan. BTW, isn’t honey vomit from the bees stomach?

        • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

          Bees are small animals, yes. I’m not sure what’s best? The research seems mixed based on it’s utilization. I see honey as an added sweetener.

          • elsie blanche

            Thanks. And as I mentioned below, for now I use a medjool date to sweeten, forgoing the honey, but I know from the past that honey is darn tasty.

            Interestingly, there are some who believe that while honey does not have B12 in it, it does have some sort of probiotic effect on the gut that allows for B12 production in the human body, and in an area of the body that is not “too low down the pipes” we be utilized.

      • jj

        My body can only handle small amounts of molasses and date sugar occassionally but is not adversely affected by honey. I am not a vegan I am a whole foods plant based starchivore. Correct me if I’m wrong but it seemed to me that Dr G. picks food items for their antioxidant content only. That is not my only concern/criteria.

        • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

          Nope. He talks all about ORAC scales if you’re interested search the site for ORAC values and antioxidants. It’s good you know you’re body and what makes your feel good!

          • jj

            (ORAC) is a method of measuring antioxidant capacities in biological samples in vitro. … no correlation between test results and biological activity could be determined,[3] stating that no physiological proof in vivo existed in support of the free-radical theory.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_radical_absorbance_capacity

      • fencepost

        The most common health reason I hear from customers about why they eat honey is for control of allergies to airborne pollens. Running a close second is dealing with symptoms associated with colds. I believe there was formal research showing that honey performs at least as well as over-the-counter cough medications. I have personal experience using honey on fungal and bacterial skin infections with good results, although it is messy. Compared with topical antibiotic ointments, I believe honey is much less likely to result in drug resistant bacteria. I have seen anecdotal reports of honey clearing up skin-surface MRSA infections. I have also seen reports, but not formal research, that honey out-performs all modern medical treatments for burns.

    • Fred

      I’ve tried some. Barely edible IMO…small amounts OK. For the skin….it’s a sticky mess and feels funny. I use a colloidal silver gel and/or ozonated olive oil…both work much better than drug store triple antibiotics.

  • Tobias Brown

    What is the link to news consumption here? It seems to be a major source of anxiety for many. In contrast, we typically expose ourselves to music that we find rewarding. With the news we lack a way to expose ourselves only to the quality articles that truly inform and inspire us, not to mention make us wiser.

    • Charzie

      WHAT quality articles? I just find disinfo and bias anymore. Keep em scared and confused so they have no clue, right?

  • Tom Zdrojewski

    I wasn’t sure where to ask this. There’s a commonly repeated folk remedy for seasonal allergies that involves eating local honey every day. I guess the idea behind it is that by eating honey produced nearby you introduce local pollens into your body in a way that allows your body to recognize it so it won’t be hostile when you breath it. Do you know if there’s any actual science to this? Any studies been done to test the method?

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      This study kind of says the opposite and many others are case reports on anaphylaxis from honey or bee pollen ingestion. This study however looked at preseasonal use of birch pollen honey (BPH; birch pollen added to honey) or regular honey (RH) on symptoms and medication during birch pollen season but I’m not sure the concept has been replicated in other trials? If you find any more studies feel free to share. Thanks!

    • lilyroza

      As a long time SEVERE allergy sufferer, I’m sorry, but the advice to eat local honey to reduce seasonal allergies does not work. I fell for the advertising gimmick, ate tons of honey for at least a year and found out myself it doesn’t work. But then I learned that some pollens are pollinated by bees, and other plants are pollinated by wind. The pollens that a seasonal allergy sufferer are reacting to are pollinated by wind. A patient must be exposed to the specific trigger in order to become desensitized. The best things Ived found for seasonal allergies is a low fat whole foods ORGANIC vegan diet, high anti-oxidants, situating oneself away from allergens ( for me, acacia trees and large wild grassy fields that aren’t mowed when the flowers start to blow). Sugar, alcohol can trigger seasonal allergies if the pollens are there. Air conditioning and air filters can provide quick relief. I do live nearby a large grassy field, sometimes it was mowed at the opportune time, other times not. I was fuming last year, when the city decided to graze cattle on our natural city park. Then allergy season arrived, and I was happily spared the yearly discomfort. Thank-you cows!

  • 0jr

    mythbusters did a study about what kind of music plants like .hm grew the best and classical music barely and as a matter of fact barely grew

  • Melissa

    I am always interested in any information on helping particularly anxiety – or depression. Thank you.

  • MikeOnRaw

    I feel like part of what is missing in the studies may be the musical preference of the person in the test. Anecdotally I personally used heavy metal when doing school work as a way to help me focus on the task at hand. It allowed me to have “white noise” to block out other distractions and I didn’t find myself drawn into the lyrics so I could just focus on the task at hand.

    • gentlegreen

      Indeed.

      Following losing my temper at work, I was sent on a stress management course.
      The trainer thought Mozart’s Clarinet Concerto would be automatically calming …
      I walked right back out of the room. My instrument of torture as a child was the clarinet and the last piece I failed to practice was not the Concerto, but the Quintet – but it was close enough, and quite frankly Mozart DID use too many notes.

      I love a very wide range of music. I listen all day when I’m home, but at different times I enjoy different sorts of music and anything else is likely to annoy – even if it’s music I otherwise enjoy. in fact to me it’s an insult to music.

      The calmest I’ve ever been in my life was probably 3 hours into a rave – to my mind an almost meditative state – though sadly I wasn’t wired up at the time …

      • lilyroza

        So you tortured people with your musical instrument!? At least you admit it! I’ve met others like you!

        • gentlegreen

          :-)

          I had in mind the lyrics from Jethro Tull’s “From A Dead Beat To An Old Greaser” ..

          • lilyroza

            Oh, you sing, too!? Have mercy!

          • lilyroza

            I was jest kidding, lol. Went to rhapsody and listened to the song you mentioned, very poetic, and relaxing. Thank-you.

          • Brux

            instruments of torture ;-)

  • Paulina Ibanez

    I am a huge fan of Nutrition Facts!!! Thanks for everything you do. Thank you for sharing the knowledge.

    But this video made me laugh. Thanks for that too! If somebody played Bach to me now, I’d become stressed out, annoyed maybe, if somebody played for me Sepultura I’d sit down, relax and simply enjoy it… This study was probably a waste of time if the different tastes those people had were not taken into consideration.

    • Steve

      Glad I’m not the only metal head knee-deep in nutritionfacts.org. It would be nice to know how many metal heads were in the “self-select” group of the referenced study. I know for a fact that there are plenty of classical composers that I can’t stand to listen to, especially if there are choral arrangements, yet on the other hand there are moments when I can feel my blood pressure drop when I finally get my teeth into some good technical death metal.

      The fact that studies like this even try to use “metal” as a catch-all category is hilarious, as it fails to distinguish between metal genres that rely heavily on dissonance (like thrash, brutal death metal, goregrind) and those that borrow technques and riffs from classical composers (neoclassical metal, melodic death metal, etc.)

      • Wade Patton

        two werds: dub step. !

    • Charzie

      Totally agree, music has to resonate with the individual in order to enjoy it. Some people love opera, for me it sets my nerves on edge and makes me want to escape it, and I’ve actually TRIED to appreciate it, and failed miserably! My boys all loved heavy metal, and it was never my fave to say the least, so how can they generalize about “music” when it affects us all so differently?

      • Brux

        Gilbert and Sullivan is always fun

  • If music is effective, how about therapeutic sound? I created therapeutic sound that has no beat and no melody based on a transform of color frequencies to sound frequencies. We specifically did not want melody or rhythm because they activate parts of the brain. More on those soundscapes here. http://www.tyford.com/Ty_Ford_Chakra_Soundscapes.html

    and here https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/chakra-soundscapes/id973597099

    • Bruce Cropley

      I used to listen to music that was designed for brainwave entrainment, particularly when I needed to concentrate on complex problems at work (software development). Different brainwave frequencies are suitable for different activities – e.g. thinking, physical exercise, meditation.

  • Steve Owens

    I absolutely love Dr. Greger and his work, but I had to laugh at the reference to Beethoven Pastoral Symphony, Opera 68. The Op. number seen after musical works stands not for Opera, but for Opus, or “work”. Thanks for the giggle; my anxiety levels were certainly lowered! OK, time to get back to work cataloguing for posterity Barry Manilow’s output….

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Ack! He didn’t dare? I am sure he meant opus it’s written correctly in the transcripts. I’ll let him know so he can re-record that portion. Thanks so much for catching that!

  • Lamella

    what about jazz? any research on jazz and the brain?

  • ks391262

    I definitely don’t think musical genre is the best correlation for behavior. Classical music is definitely not all relaxing, just listen to Christopher Rouse’s piece “Gorgon” for example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4SlLHTLaLc) There is even plenty of Mozart that I wouldn’t consider relaxing (like the “Dies Irae” from his Requiem.)

    I am a professional classical musician (composer and pianist), and in graduate school I took a class on music aesthetics, which was basically a philosophy class. We talked a lot about this very issue of whether, for example, “sad” music makes a listener feel sad, which at the very least we concluded it is not as simple as that. The thinking that certain types of music can induce certain emotions or qualities in the listener actually goes back to the Greeks, who thought, for example. that music constructed using a certain scale could help someone be a better warrior. The whole class was about philosophy though and it is interesting to see what the science says.

    Also, there is a typo in one of those studies (which Dr. Greger repeated). Beethoven’s Symphony No. 6 is “Opus” 68, not “Opera” 68 (He only wrote a single opera, “Fidelio”.)

    • John

      Take the evidence from the movie “Spinal Tap”- when you play D minor, the audience instantly starts weeping.:)

      There are also some types of classical I like and some I don’t. Are Cream and Led Zeppelin heavy metal? Led Zep certainly had their Robert Plant Celtic folklore numbers.

      Some ideas don’t lend well to studies of this type.
      John S

  • valdemar welz

    please address fasting as way to improve health as well as for weight loss

    • Wade Patton

      I learned of that recent documentary (Eat, Fast, Live Longer?) from comments posted here. It is a good show and fasting has been neglected here. I have fasted once since seeing it, and did feel some of the changes. But then I lost all the weight I needed to by simply going WFPB.

  • Karl Young

    Seems like a classic case of Whitehead’s warning re. misplaced concreteness – the mean/median scores in these tests seem pretty meaningless. How would controls be picked to do a more convincing study ? Classical music lovers listening to heavy metal, heavy metal lovers listening to new age… ? And where are bebop, free jazz, “modern” music (e.g. Stockhausen, Cage’s 4’33”,…), Japanese folk music, Afro-Cuban music,… ? Were people whose preference was listening to any of those, excluded from the study ? Not sure I’d bet my life on any recommendations resulting from these studies.

  • Susan Dawn Fain

    Quick! Change the word “opera” after Beethoven’s 6th symphony to “opus”! It hurts your credibility to have it wrong.!!!!

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Thanks so much someone else pointed it out, too! We’re on it I appreciate you letting us know.

  • vlp

    I’ve a question about turmeric. I’ve read that if you don’t consume oil with turmeric, it is destroyed in the stomach and the healthful benefits of curcumin/turmeric are not realized. Since Indian cuisine uses a lot of oil in food preparation, where it is especially routine to put the spices in oil before adding them to the dish, could this have been a serendipitous discovery of a means to maximize the benefits of turmeric? What does the science say? If it is true, what do you recommend as an alternative to oil? Thank you!

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Yes! You’re onto something! Dr. Greger has a video showing turmeric with fat and black pepper appears best. See if this helps?

      • vlp

        Thank you! This is an incredibly interesting topic. I’ve largely eliminated all added oils in my diet (thanks to Dr.s Greger, Esselstyn, and McDougal), but still want to know the best way to incorporate the most bio available turmeric. As usual, it seems keeping it all natural with the whole root is the best–and pepper too.

        • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

          You got the idea! Fresh turmeric root and black pepper is a great way to reap the benefits.

  • joeboosauce

    Very interesting video but this recent study showed the opposite with metal. Care to comment? http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/22/listening-heavy-metal-punk-extreme-music-makes-you-calmer-not-angrier-study

    “A study by the University of Queensland, the Australian public research institution in Brisbane, revealed that rather than proving the hypothesis that “extreme music causes anger”, the theory that “extreme music matches and helps to process anger” was supported instead.”

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Cool! Good news for those who like that kind of music! Perhaps it’s all relative? Thanks for sharing the study.

  • Frederic P

    There must be a difference between “active” and “passive” or background listening. I love music and attend many concerts a year. In my teens it was metal and now it’s mostly concert music and opera. I just can’t get enough of it! But my best listening is when I pay attention to every detail of the music — not multi-tasking. Maybe reading the score at the same time to avoid tuning out.

    When you enter the musical world fully you leave your worries behind and you immerse yourself in a different reality, trying to grasp what the composer was trying to say and what it means to you. There are also many musical details of harmony, rhythm, melody and structure to notice… combined with the emotional impact that the music has on you. To me that’s the power of music!

    • John

      There have been many studies showing that playing an instrument helps to combat Alzheimer’s and that just listening doesn’t do much.
      John S

  • Tired of War

    Ludwig van only wrote one opera (Fidelio), not 68. The Op is Opus.

  • Debbie McNally

    What about country

    • HaltheVegan

      Or Bob Dylan? (His songs may be considered more poetry than music ;-)

    • Wade Patton

      which one? There are about seven sub-categories pop to mind. I despise one, but like much of the rest. I dig bluegrass and “old” country and have dug up some really good stuff on YT lately. But I cannot stand modern/Nashville sounding country, to name a few sub-categories.

      Or to quote the barkeep in “The Blues Brothers” when asked about types of music:
      We have both kinds: Country _and_ Western.

      • Charzie

        I’m with ya Wade, can’t stomach modern country, yet my dad used to play what he considered country on his guitar and I loved the sound. Just a whole different “animal”.

  • Brux

    I get the regular email updates about new videos from Nutrition Facts.

    My comment here is that most if not all of them have images in the body of the email, and my reflex is always to click on the image. Well, in NF the image is unconnected to anything, so it expands up to fill the screen to display the image and I have to mouse over the close the image and then go back to click the link to the actual article/video. This has got me so many times, because most other emails have the images linked to whatever URL object they want to show on the web.

    Just a minor suggestion, meant to be helpful – could you change your email document template so that whatever image you send with the email is linked the same to the video so clicking on the image takes the reader to the same place as clicking on the link? Does that make sense? Thanks.

  • Brux

    So, classical music is to all other music as the vegetarian diet is to all diets? Is that it?

    I’ll buy that. But I wonder if you have to do a song by song comparison because I have
    no doubt there might be a Pearl Jam song that is relaxing, though, not being a big Pearl
    Jam fan, I cannot think of one offhand. I merely have to think about rap or hip-hop
    music for my blood pressure to rise … it is offensive and toxic, well, most of it anyway.
    I have to think that each song also has its own connotations and therefore reactions
    to the body/being.

    Most popular music is vocal music, and most popular vocal music seems to have to
    have a catchy subject, usually sex or some kind of story, or mindless ideas, partying,
    etc. I think the addition to music of lyrics/words makes a difference. I notice that there
    is a difference between say a song in English which is my only language and a song
    in a foreign language which since I do not understand I can interpret as another kind
    of instrument, like humming.

    I think of that Pink Floyd song where the woman sings without words a wonderful
    melody, better than the lyrics, to the song. The activation of your brain’s language
    center while listening to music I think detracts from the music part of the music.

    Probably a lot more to find out about music or any other kind of passive entertainment
    medium. Personally for me Jethro Tull does it! ;-) Music of today just seems to be
    designed to be toxic to people … I don’t get it.

  • Leah Jones

    I’d like to know more about whether or not soy protein isolate is healthy or not, and also a video showing that all eggs (organic, free range etc) contain unhealthy levels of cholesterol. Thanks so much for such an informative site.

    • Wade Patton

      Have you seen all 56 videos on eggs here? (only slightly less). But yes, there are no cholesterol free eggs.

  • Neil

    It just wasn’t all that nutritiony

  • apprin

    How exactly do we categorize? Two words, “Pink Floyd.” Where do they fit into this? Classical metal?

  • jj

    The video science seems off and irrelevant but interesting comments.

  • Henk

    There are more love songs than anything else. If songs could make you do something we’d all love one another.

    Frank Zappa

  • Noor Pekala

    Nothing new under the sun, teachers have known this for years. Many have CDs of Mozart for their students, as his music is composed at the same speed as a human heart rate. So apparently that helps in intellectual activities. Although for me the most intellectual piece of music is Bach’s Tocata and fugue in D.

  • Wade Patton

    I don’t think musical influence on health and human function will ever have much veracity until/unless it is considered with the preferences of each individual participant in a study. There are folks who love music that makes me want to empty my upper digestive contents. Some of the music I like probably has the same effect on others. We all know this, and if we begin to make assumptions as to which age/gender/ethnic group likes this or that, then we are going to create a heap of contradictions and exceptions that prove nothing.

    That being said, listen to what you like and notice how it affects you. You likely listen to more than one type of music or different musicians. Change them up and see which fits your mood. Select accordingly. Forcing yourself to listen to music you don’t like will likely create negative results, BUT don’t be afraid to explore new genres and artists with which you are unfamiliar.

    Personally, I love lots of different music, but what I nearly universally hate is the music that has been overplayed by the narrow-minded broadcast industry-even when it’s by a one of my favorite artists. Thankfully we now have a much larger pool of music (free) from which to choose, employ it and see what you find.

  • Wade Patton

    No sorry I don’t, but I will say that “isolate” doesn’t sound like a “whole food” and that is my vote against it. What your question just spurred me on to find is that there ARE home cholesterol test kits! Yippee! I wish I had tested mine before I dropped it down to the floor–or where ever it is now. I’d love to have the before/after numbers, but that is long past.

    I was going to suggest a serum cholesterol check and then two weeks off eggs without changing anything else, and a recheck. Now I see we don’t have to waste a physician’s time to do such. I’d be so much happier to have a gauge set for my health parameters…like I have on my vehicle-constant monitoring for top performance/maintenance! Looks like we’re getting closer.

    As to poultry and unhatched poultry: I’ve seen practically every video here now (on everything) and even when I do have my severely restricted (in “normal”/SAD terms only) servings of animal products, I almost NEVER again choose anything from the domestic and feathered flock. IOW poultry and eggs are simply OFF my lists of even marginally acceptable foods. AND I HAVE perfect access to (free) free-range, from hens-my-dogs-chase-sometimes eggs and meat.

    For me, the contradiction to health of such products is not outweighed by any culinary delight they can deliver.

    Eggs were simply a convenience for me most of the years I ate them. Farm Fresh, Free and Tasty and easy/quick to prepare many different ways. I ate my share and survived, now i don’t miss them and know my bloodwork will be spectacular when ever looked at again.

  • Wade Patton

    I would be thrilled to see some more aroma-therapy types of health information. I have seen all that are here, they are very good-thanks. It, unlike music, is where a substance/compound actually enters the body (discernible or not), rather than a purely sensory experience derived from light or sound waves.

    That is of course if we’re never going to speak of NaCl again, which might have a larger effect on health. At this point I’m sure it only affects those deemed “sensitive”. Nothing I’ve read or experienced indicates otherwise and is why I keep harping on the “tease” thrown down many weeks ago.

    • jj

      With NaCl and aroma-therapy every body is different. Animals in the wild know where the natural salt licks are. They don’t just get it from the vegetation or whatever their diet is. Some people need more some need less. When it gets to aroma-therapy some people say it makes them feel better. Then there are many people like me that most of those smells trigger migraines. Also there was a video comparing ginger to imitrex where ginger did as well as imitrex with a very small number of persons. Ginger does not work for many of us with migraine. So do what works for you.

      • Wade Patton

        Yes that is one of the videos to which I was referring. But the last time I had a migraine coming on I had pain pills in my pocket (from dental work) and no chance to try ginger.

        But the aromatherapy surface has only been scratched (and lightly sniffed) here. Maybe there is no more good research on it.

        I keep bringing up salt because we were promised more on salt, some weeks ago.

        • jj

          I guess your patience is being tested.

          • Wade Patton

            Would have been fine if I hadn’t read the “doctor’s notes”. Trying to be a good student yo. Was teased by the words:

            I’ve badly neglected sodium on NutritionFacts.org, but that’s all going to change. I have about a dozen salt videos queued up…

            Then one and no more. Suppose if I can keep myself from reading the notes and dodge auto-cannibalistic graphics, then all will be wunderbar.

  • DeborahColling

    Love it! So glad you included this in your research review!

  • Sebastian Tristan

    A friend of mine sent me an e-mail regarding something called Carnosine. Apparently, it’s an antioxidant found in meat (strange to have “antioxidant” and “meat” in the same sentence). the preliminary results seem that it is beneficial. Could the doc take a look at Carnosine? Is it good or is it bad for health?

    • Wade Patton

      Looks interesting (I glanced at the Wiki), but plants have this huge track record of being highly beneficial in nearly every aspect of nutrition whereas animal products are riddled with problems for humans who choose to eat them every day. I expect that the beneficial nature of this substance is quite outweighed by the inescapable negatives inherent in flesh consumption. But I’d like to hear the Doc’s thoughts on it.

      • Sebastian Tristan

        Those were exactly my thoughts.

  • Youcef

    Some major flaws in the design and conclusions of these studies:
    GROUPING:
    1) How many in the self-select group chose music that found otherwise to be anxiogenic?
    SUBJECTIVITY:
    2) Could it be that people who naturally like/select “anxiogenic music” get a relaxation effect from it?
    In this case all the study would actually be finding is simply that Mozart is easier to listen to by most than say Metal…a more acquired or reserved taste? The same way that some foods like strong blue cheese make only a few people extremely happy and excited and most quite unhappy…It doesn’t mean “strong blue cheese is anxiogenic”, but that it’s a food best enjoyed best only by a few…no?
    KINETICS:
    3) If we look only at the immediate response to the music, and do the same for exercise, we would say that exercise is anxiogenic and probably not good for health because it increases body temperature, blood pressure and triggers what looks like a state of fight or flight…Think about it.

    • Wade Patton

      Hey now, blue cheese is one of the greatest things ever done with dairy! Of course I only eat it a few times per year now.

      As to music, most genres contain some artists/styles that I like, and many more that I don’t. Some of my favorite artists have recordings that I simply do not care for. Then there are a few categories that contain nearly nothing I can stand.

      Isn’t everyone that way?

      Even when I play an instrument I don’t play just one sort of music… How can any sense be made of this when I love some “metal” and hate some “metal”. Same with Classical. I have owned classical and “metal” recordings since the 1980’s, as well as Punk and Bluegrass and even Bongwater (beyond classification). I’ve seen Van Halen and also Jimmy Buffet, enjoy traditional Celtic music, have been to symphony performances and even shared a warm Schaefer beer with Mojo Nixon in Nashville. m/

  • Wade Patton

    Dear researchers, I would like to have my vital signs monitored and tested whilst listening to dubstep. Just one of the myriad of varieties of music that I enjoy. Here’s a fine example (and yes I expect 98% of folks unfamiliar to completely reject such as “noise”).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sywNMjnsEgg

    Oh and that recording is 1:22:37, so it is rather convenient to use as background whilst working at home. Helps my focus-I jest not.

    • Wade Patton

      Also note that not all dubstep is the same, this particular maker (not sure what you call the mixing person) is my favorite. I listened around and his (I assume male) sense of timing and humor work great for me.

    • I just got back from an inline half marathon and my endorphins are definitely quite high. I think i can safely say that that is definitely not boosting my endorphin levels at all. LOL :-D

      • Wade Patton

        I like power/speed metal (Pantera/Motorhead/SFU) before mountain biking and then chill with HW3 and some beers after.

  • The Detonator

    I promise I will become aggressive and angry if I have to listen to New Age music.

  • VenlaTuominen

    I wonder what the results would show for those of us who actually like metal (“self-selected”). Although my favorite type of music is symphonic metal (bands like Nightwish and Within Temptation), and as the name implies, combines the metal and classical music. I wonder where the results would be if they tested that in addition to Mozart and Metallica?

  • vegan minstrel

    Let’s postulate that the brighter Mozart pieces are more healing than the darker ones. bit.ly/s43-vgn is one of his brightest in a veganized rendition.

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  • Tarquin Biscuitbarel

    I’m vegan and do a ton of exercise every day; but it’s metal and punk all the way for me. VAN HALEN BABY!!!! However, I do actually get frequent panic attacks…which is interesting. I just thought it was something passed down from my mom to be honest. Even so, I don’t think you’ll stop me listening to this music. Classical music and radiohead make me feel so depressed that I can’t handle it.

  • Fianne

    I’d love to hear something about singing and health… :-) I love to sing myself, and I’ve read some articles that said that singing decreased anxiety and improved somethings in Parkinson patients (I can’t recall what it was). So, if you would like to do a topic on singing, I’ll be one of the first to watch!!!
    Thanx for all your work! Love it :-)