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How Not to Die from Diabetes

We’ve known since the 1930s that type 2 diabetes can be prevented, arrested, and even reversed with a plant-based diet. Within five years of following the diet, about a quarter of the diabetic patients in that early study were able to get off insulin altogether.

Plant-based diets are relatively low in calories, though. Is it possible their diabetes just got better because they lost so much weight? To tease that out, we need a study where people are switched to a healthy diet but forced to eat so much food they don’t lose any weight. Then we could see if plant-based diets have specific benefits beyond all the easy weight loss. We had to wait 44 years for such a study, which I then discuss it in my video How Not to Die from Diabetes.

Subjects were weighed every day. If they started losing weight, they were made to eat more food—so much more food in fact that some of the participants had problems eating it all. They eventually adapted, though, so there was no significant weight change despite restricting meat, eggs, dairy, and junk.

Without any weight loss, did a plant-based diet still help? Overall insulin requirements were cut about 60 percent, and half the diabetics were able to get off their insulin altogether. How many years did that take? Not years. An average of 16 days. Only 16 days.

Let’s be clear: We’re talking about diabetics who had had diabetes as long as 20 years and injected 20 units of insulin a day. Then, as few as 13 days later, they were off their insulin altogether, thanks to less than two weeks on a plant-based diet—even with zero weight loss. It’s astonishing. Twenty years with diabetes, and then off all insulin in less than two weeks. Twenty years with diabetes because no one had told them about a plant-based diet. For decades they were just 13 days away at any time from being free.

In my video, I show data from patient #15: 32 units of insulin while on the control diet and then, 18 days later, after switching to the plant-based diet, on no insulin at all. None. Lower blood sugars on 32 units less insulin. That’s the power of plants. And that was without any weight loss. His body just started working that much better once it was provided with the right fuel.

As a bonus, their cholesterol dropped like a rock to under 150. Just as “moderate changes in diet usually result in only moderate reductions in LDL cholesterol levels,” how moderate do you want your diabetes?

“Everything in moderation” may be a truer statement than some people realize. Moderate changes in diet can leave diabetics with moderate blindness, moderate kidney failure, moderate amputations—maybe just a few toes or something. Moderation in all things is not necessarily a good thing.

Remember the study that purported to show that diets high in meat, eggs, and dairy could be as harmful to health as smoking, suggesting that people who eat lots of animal protein are four times as likely to die from cancer or diabetes? If you look at the actual study, you’ll see that’s simply not true. Those eating a lot of animal protein didn’t have just 4 times the risk of dying from diabetes, they had 73 times the risk of dying from diabetes! A 73-fold increase in risk. And those who chose moderation, only eating a “moderate” amount of animal protein, had 23 times the risk of death from diabetes.


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Michael Greger M.D., FACLM

Michael Greger, M.D. FACLM, is a physician, New York Times bestselling author, and internationally recognized professional speaker on a number of important public health issues. Dr. Greger has lectured at the Conference on World Affairs, the National Institutes of Health, and the International Bird Flu Summit, testified before Congress, appeared on The Dr. Oz Show and The Colbert Report, and was invited as an expert witness in defense of Oprah Winfrey at the infamous "meat defamation" trial.


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  1. While I don’t have diabetes, I was interested to see how a whole-food plant based (evidence-based) diet would help with weight loss and cholesterol levels. In two months of reasonable adherence to this style of diet, with no overt calorie restrictions, I’ve dropped 15 lbs (currently 230) and my cholesterol has gone from 200-230 range down to 145. In addition, I’m actually enjoying the new diet (and the challenge of cooking without oil).

    So thanks to Dr. Greger, Dr. McDougall and others who have worked to evangelize these dietary modifications. For me, it’s been working out nicely and I’m very hopeful that I’ll get to my 200-210 target over the next year. And I preordered “How not to Die(t)”, just because, how could you not with a title like that!

    1. I would like to send you a very interesting development in my case of the Cataract warning from my optometrist
      And by simply rubbing my eyes every morning using warm water.
      About 7-8 years have passed. And my cataract has not worsened.

  2. I have watched all of the Diabetes videos and the part that I missed was that they knew it since the 1930’s.

    “We’ve known since the 1930s that type 2 diabetes can be prevented, arrested, and even reversed with a plant-based diet. Within five years of following the diet, about a quarter of the diabetic patients in that early study were able to get off insulin altogether.

    Why don’t the doctors know that? Why isn’t it something they are telling their patients?

    1. Last year NutritionFacts.org volunteers screened over 30,000 articles in the peer reviewed scientific literature. There is no way that doctors can keep up with all the literature… don’t forget there are thousands of articles in the clinical literature. Now retired from direct patient care after 40+ years of experience I come across individuals who still want information on how to avoid diabetes. I recommend they start with two NutritionFacts.org video’s.
      1. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-spillover-effect-links-obesity-to-diabetes/

      2. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/what-causes-insulin-resistance/

      The take home message is that you want to get the fat out of your diet… yes that includes olive oil and the fat off your body. Working at the McDougall clinic for 8 years I had the experience of seeing how individuals did when they got the fat out of their diet… buffet breakfast, lunch and dinners for 8 days. Unfortunately getting the fat off their body takes longer. Dr. Greger’s upcoming book, How Not to Diet, provides a great summary of 80,000 articles on weight loss. For me the central organizing concept is Calorie Density. Jeff Novick’s video, Calorie Density: Eat More, Weigh Less and Live Longer provides the best introduction to that key concept. There is alot of science to support proper approaches. Sadly with individual variability it will be up to individuals to figure out what works for them. So if you come across type two diabetics you can recommend these video’s. Remember two things if folks are on medications they need to work with their treating clinicians and if they don’t make enough insulin… type 1 or 1 1/2 now called LADA (i.e. latent autoimmune diabetes in adults) they will most likely require insulin. You can read Dr. McDougall’s clinical approach to treatment in his December 2009 newsletter article entitled, Simple Care for Diabetes. That said if they keep the fat out of their body and maintain a healthy body weight they will require less insulin. If they eat to avoid arterial disease they will have a lower risk for heart attacks and strokes.

      1. DrDons,

        Thank you for your informative and encouraging message!

        But how do we get more doctors to hear it? Heed it? And act on it?

        My husband and I both bring up plant based eating to our doctors, and provide them with information about Nutrition Facts — which I recommend, based on my experience as a PhD research biochemist, as one of the best nutrition information sources available, based on nutrition science research articles published in peer reviewed journals. And it’s a non-profit. But: it’s not enough.

        (True confessions: I’ve worked with MD “researchers” — and the quotes are because some of them are terrible! Even the Harvard educated ones. Could this be part of the problem?)

        Now I plan to give my doctors an Eating Guide and an Outreach card. My prediction: Still not enough.

        Sign me discouraged. How does Dr. Greger keep going?

      2. Thanks, DrDons!

        I like the KISS – Keep It Simple Silly message.

        Now, if we could just get some food trucks with that buffet WFPB meal to come over this way.

        Thank you for your service to humanity!

        (You look way too young to be retired!)

  3. The Virta program using a ketogenic diet has also been shown to reverse diabetes in 60% of the patients. It’s good to know that both ketogenic and plant-based diets are remarkably effective.

    1. Except the high fiber plant based diet has no side effects (keto flu, keto crotch, keto breath, elevated LDL, TMAO, insulin resistance) and has long term study.
      Also, better for the environment and animals.
      Medicine can be quite reductionist. We need to look at way more than just lowering HbA1C and insulin requirements.

    2. There have also been criticisms of the claims of reversal made by Virta personnel

      ‘After one year, the net benefit of the intervention arm over the control arm was only a 0.3% reduction in HbA1c, suggesting that the short-term benefits of very-low carbohydrate diets (VLCDs) likely wane with time. In fact, four randomized, long-term (≥12 months) trials of VLCDs for T2DM have failed to show a benefit over control (typically high-carbohydrate) diets [7,8,9,10]. Notably, none of these four studies were conducted in association with Virta Health, a fee-based VLCD program with which 75% of the Hallberg et al. authors have disclosed a financial conflict of interest.’
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6682911/

    3. Herb,

      Dr. Greger just covered Keto for Diabetes and one of the problems is that you become more insulin resistant and more carb sensitive. Meaning that if you ever eat any carbs, your blood sugar spikes much, much higher and that spike came after even one high-fat diet.

      Plus, acetone, from the Keto diet causes the same problem that high sugar does. Meaning you can bring the blood sugar down, but end up with the same neuropathy, etc.

      Watch his video.

      1. Herb,

        Here is Dr. Greger’s Keto video.

        https://nutritionfacts.org/video/does-a-ketogenic-diet-help-diabetes-or-make-it-worse/

        This is the part I was trying to explain:

        But we would expect less internal new formation due to presumably low levels of methylglyoxal, given lower blood sugars not eating carbs. Dartmouth researchers were surprised to find more methylglyoxal, though. A few weeks on the Atkins diet led to a significant increase in methylglyoxal levels, and those in active ketosis did even worse—doubling the level of this glycotoxin in their bloodstream. It turns out high sugars may not be the only way to create this toxin.

        “One of the ketones you make on a ketogenic diet is acetone (known for its starring role in nail polish remover). Acetone does more than just make keto dieters fail breathalyzer tests and develop what’s been described as “rotten apple breath.” Acetone can oxidize in the blood to acetol, which may be a precursor for methylglyoxal. That may be why keto dieters can end up with levels of this glycotoxin as high as those with out-of-control diabetes, which can cause the nerve damage and blood vessel damage you see in diabetics. That’s another way keto dieters can end up with a heart attack. “

        1. Layman’s language for me would be that with Diabetes you are trying to lower blood sugar to lower things like heart attacks and neuropathy, etc.

          Keto is a way, which you lower the blood sugar and KEEP the heart attacks and neuropathy.

          1. I was trying to think of a different metaphor and I will use lowering Homocysteine.

            Vegans can have the lowest Homocysteine.

            People can go Vegan to lower their Homocysteine, but not supplement B12 and have worse Homocysteine than when they started.

            Or they can supplement B12, but not eat plant foods with Folate and have the Homocysteine go up that way.

            Or they can supplement B12 and eat plant foods with Folate and not get enough B12 or eat enough Omega 3’s and have high Homocysteine that way.

            With Diabetes, we deal with blood sugar and A1C, but Marylin already has shared that people can have perfect A1c and have it be caused by alternating spikes and crashes and it is worse, not better.

            The medical establishment chose blood sugar because elevated blood sugar causes problems, but acetone causes those same problems, so swapping high blood sugar for high acetone is like left and right Kit Kats (which is a commercial advertising reference, which could mean nothing at all to many people.)

              1. I think the Homocysteine example would have worked if I had it be that someone looked and saw that vegans have the highest Homocysteine, so they start eating animal products because they don’t understand the mechanism and don’t understand that vegans ALSO have the lowest Homocysteine.

  4. Interesting, I’ve been on a Plantbased Whole Food for close to six years. I haven’t been able to lose any weight (still 283) and have just been diagnosed with Type 2 with my AC1 at 8.6%

    1. @Craig, you might consider outlining what typical day’s intake consists of and one of the nutritionfacts.org forum contributors could then perhaps comment on why there has been no change. Also consider entering a typical day into https://cronometer.com to see what jumps out as biggest source of calorie density in your whole foods plant based nutrition. I do that from time to time so i have a handle on where the bulk of my calorie density and macro nutrients are coming from.

    2. Craig,

      Are you no oil?

      I ask because there are a lot of things like Plant Milks which have oils if you buy the wrong brand.

      The not-quite whole food plant-based foods are where I suddenly find oils or other things. I could get fooled over and over again because of poor vision. I saw some tofu dumplings and they looked great, but when I looked online at the ingredients, there was whole milk in them.

      I am really interested in what you are eating. It would help me to learn something.

      I am a post-menopausal woman and I have only lost a little bit since attempting this path, but I was doing things like Non-dairy burritos and The Curry Tiger burritos and Kite Hill Ravioli and all of the things I liked had oil. Gotta make our own.

      White rice is something I will mention because in Asians white rice was linked to Type 2 Diabetes and that is something technically allowed on a WFPB diet, but it is something that can contribute to T2 Diabetes if you eat it 4 days a week or more.

      Fruit juices and smoothies are another thing that people often do, which can contribute to T2D.

      1. I will also ask if you are sure you don’t have refined carbs?

        Are you eating bread?

        Are you eating boxed cereal?

        Instant oats versus steel cut oats?

        Are you eating white pasta or have you transitioned to lentil pasta or another type?

        Veganaise? Vegan butter? Coconut oil?

        Are you eating beans and lentils to take advantage of the second meal effect?

        Have you tried cooking and cooling your starches and reheating them again for the second meal effect?

    3. Craig,

      You also might consider a C-Peptide test.

      According to the Mastering Diabetes website, your score on that will help you predict how likely you are to control your Diabetes through diet alone.

    4. Craig Janisch,

      Sadly, while the risks of type 2 diabetes go down while eating PBWF, I don’t think they go down to 0%. You may be in that small group of individuals for whom diabetes meds are a life saver.

      OTOH, there are other health benefits to eating Plant Based Whole Foods, and you may be experiencing those.

      And then there are the benefits to this planet of PBWF eating, including increased sustainability, decreased, environmental degradation, decreased contribution to climate change, decreased cruelty to animals and workers, and decreased contribution to antibiotic resistance. And you are definitely contributing to ALL of these benefits.

      So I thank you from my heart. Please don’t give up.

  5. Do you have any info on plant diet and type 1 diabetes? my granddaughter’s blood sugar is wacky- crazy- all over the place! I would think that a whole food plant based diet would help her stabilize her sugar and maybe lower her insulin need, and for sure decrease her A1C. But, I need some kind of ‘medical proof’ to get her to consider it. (I searched juvenile diabetes on the site and got juvenile alligators!!)

    1. Dianne,

      Mastering Diabetes website has a lot of information in their blogs and that site was set up by a T1D and has testimonials from T1D patients.

      1. That is a fee-based coaching program isn’t Deb? I searched around on the site and finally found the do-it-yourself program price, but not the one on one price. No doubt they do a terrific job, but NF has incredible resources too, and Dr Barnard’s book might be a good place to start also. (does he include a chapter about kids in the Reverse Diabetes book?)

        1. Barb,

          They have a blog and success stories with a lot of information and have YouTube videos, but, yes, the coaching costs money.

          I just mention them because people with Type 1 Diabetes don’t get to see a lot of testimonials, but they have them.

          1. Deb, their site looks great. Even the self-help program looks worthwhile … I would consider it if I was diagnosed. The cost of diabetes drugs these days is ridiculous!

            1. Barb,

              You aren’t kidding!

              My very close friend and her husband spend more than my whole gross pay just on Diabetes meds every month. That doesn’t even include the testing supplies.

              Maybe that is why I was way more highly motivated to figure out how to cure it.

              She went Keto and my going vegan did cause issues between us briefly, but we are good now. Another Diabetic close friend went grass-fed, organic meats and she keeps sending me things and I have been allergic to meat since I was a younger person and have no desire to start up again, but both of them make more money than I do, so I am going to be the one who has to figure out how to do it for as free as possible.

    2. A low fat diet appears to be highly advisable for type 1 diabetics:

      “Fatty foods tend to increase blood sugars for people with type 1 diabetes, according to a new study published by the American Diabetes Association. Studying type 1 diabetes patients at the Joslin Diabetes Center in Boston, researchers provided 48-hours’ worth of meals with identical carbohydrate and protein content but varying in fat content (10 grams vs. 60 grams). The high-fat meals required an average of 42 percent more insulin in order to bring blood sugar under control.”
      https://www.pcrm.org/news/health-nutrition/fat-matters-type-1-diabetes
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3609492/

      1. Tom,

        Thanks for sharing that!

        42%

        That is a concrete number.

        I will be sharing that with my brother who just got his latest A1C numbers today. His numbers went up slightly He is a Keto dieter who cheats, so it didn’t go up as much as I thought it would, but it went up.

      2. There is also reason to believe that high carbohydrate feeding may increase insulin sensitivity

        ‘To evaluate the effect of increased dietary carbohydrate in diabetes mellitus, glucose and immunoreactive insulin levels were measured in normal persons and subjects with mild diabetes maintained on basal (45 per cent carbohydrate) and high carbohydrate (85 per cent carbohydrate) diets. Fasting plasma glucose levels fell in all subjects and oral glucose tolerance (0 to 120-minute area) significantly improved after 10 days of high carbohydrate feeding. Fasting insulin levels also were lower on the high carbohydrate diet; however, insulin responses to oral glucose did not significantly change. These data suggest that the high carbohydrate diet increased the sensitivity of peripheral tissues to insulin.’
        https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM197103112841004

    3. Hello Dianne. Many thanks for your comment, it’s great that you want to help your granddaughter.

      There’s a whole video library by Dr. Greger in relation to diabetes, many of them address type 2 diabetes, but a lot of the evidence and nutritional recommendations of type 2 diabetes still can be applied to type 1 diabetes.

      https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/diabetes

      Hope it can help your granddaughter

  6. Thanks for keeping this extremely important WFPB message out there and circulating! With the recent “reversal” on meat-eating being continuously blasted across any and all forms of media, I’d hate to see people give up on a healthy lifestyle that their lives could literally depend on. It’s simple, economical, healthy for the person, the other animals, the planet — and totally doable.

  7. In my limited experience, this message, about PBWF eating and diabetes, is not well received.

    I recall a co-worker, years ago, who was diagnosed as pre-diabetic and was prescribed a change in diet and metformin (I think). So her response, as she told us, was to binge eat all the forbidden foods “THEY” told her she could no longer eat, such as pasta, cakes, and doughnuts, the weekend before she started taking metformin. And I don’t think she adhered to her dietary recommendations in any case.

    And my brother couldn’t convince a very overweight type 2 diabetic friend of his to change his eating habits — despite my brother’s obvious success with his change to plant based eating — and a year or so later, his friend had his foot amputated. A risk his friend knew about. They were both depressed.

    The few times I’ve mentioned a possible change in eating habits, based on evidence, I’ve been shut down. ASAP.

    So my brother is the lone exception that I know of.

    Why is this? What would be effective? I wish I knew.

    1. Dr. J.,

      Fear-based messages don’t work, particularly when people are eating to comfort their emotions in the first place. They just shut it out.

      Fear of amputation or death is too big to emotionally handle.

      The second thing I am going to say is that people who resist it generally either dislike fruit and vegetables or have a food addiction or have done the diet rodeo over and over again and failed every time and don’t see dietary changes as even possible for them. On top of that, all of the Diabetic friends I have who go to doctors, including those who have gone to the hospital and to nursing homes have been pushed away from dietary solutions. My friend and my cousin have been so frustrated with what hospitals and nursing homes serve Diabetics to eat and I will agree with them. The medical people are handling it with insulin and other diabetic meds. Some of my friends are on 3 meds and the professionals are not saying eat plant-based and if the doctor is not saying it, the people who I know will not do it. They listen and say, “My doctor is saying the opposite.”

      1. I could do exact quotes of what doctors say.

        “Don’t believe everything you read on the internet?”
        “Don’t listen to internet doctors.”
        “I think you have been watching too much Dr. Oz.”

        I know that it isn’t just people around me hearing those messages.

        A woman who dialed the wrong number and I spoke about Dr. Barnard’s book and she said that she had asked her doctor about the book for managing Diabetes with diet and her doctor said, ‘That is not something which will work.” So she changed her mind and didn’t order the book.
        She said that she would because I talked about it, but her doctor was adamant that it wouldn’t work.

      2. Deb,

        I think that my brother’s message was more positive: you might be able to lose weight and maybe even go off your diabetes meds if you tried eating more plant foods. Perhaps improve other areas of your health as well. He was one example of many. I’m pretty sure he didn’t mention the downsides of the disease, though they both knew what they were. That’s what scared my brother “straight.” (I use that as a joke; my brother is not straight. Also, not hearing, as he was born profoundly deaf. And yet, he “heard” the message, loud and clear, when he was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes.) I guess he thought he could persuasive, but he wasn’t.

        And your comment about doctors is depressing. A few years ago, my brother took a course from Chip Health (https://chiphealth.com/) where he learned about what to eat, how to shop, and how to cook, the importance of exercise (as part of the program, he received a reduced price gym membership), and more. Now he looks for doctors who support plant based eating. If they don’t, he goes elsewhere.

        My doctors agree with me that plant based eating is probably the healthiest way to eat. But they still don’t mention it to their patients. I can’t recall why not. Maybe a reluctance to “tell” them or even “suggest” or “recommend” to them something as basic as healthy foods?

        I once had a doctor fill out a prescription for me: “This patient must exercise. 1 X per day, 30 minutes or more each day.” I taped it up on my inside of my medicine cabinet, where I kept my toothpaste, so I would see it at least twice daily. And yet, I had to ask her for it; she never suggested it, even though she thought it was a great idea. And my medicine cabinet still doesn’t contain any “lifestyle” condition/disease drugs, at age 68. (And none for my husband, either, at age 76.) Knock wood.

        1. Dr. J.,

          That is fabulous that your brother found the CHIP program. I would never have heard of it if I hadn’t Googled every day for a year+ and had eventually landed here.

          I think that doctors do not want to recommend things is the truth. They aren’t nutrition experts.
          They use dieticians and pass that job to them with some medical conditions and maybe they don’t see much improvement even after the people go to dieticians.

          My cousin has seen so many dieticians, but none of them presented Whole Food Plant-Based.

          I also think that doctor’s and dieticians are in a difficult position. Our greater culture is so polarized about each and every thing, including diet and all of it is also politicized. On top of that, people tend to get rebellious if they feel pushed or manipulated or judged in any way and will do the opposite.

          They have trouble getting people to come to a doctor and actually get a yearly physical. I know that is the case. There are some people who do go willingly and who feel comforted by it, but people who research on their own, don’t tend to agree with their doctors’ much of the time.

          I look at how patiently and persistently Dr. Greger presents his case, but we will have knock down drag-out arguments on this site if people polarize on dairy and fish and vegan versus not vegan, keto versus not keto, nuts versus no nuts, which type of B12, etc. It is so challenging to get any community to be of like-mind.

          At the last church I was a part of we had a weekly Bible study which was supposed to have meals. 10 years earlier it was so easy to have weekly meals. What changed was that some people were following Keto and some people were drinking shakes and I was vegetarian and the person hosting the events was Italian who made a big lasagna with meat and not one person would eat it. She had also made desserts nobody would eat. I don’t remember the other diets, I think one was low sodium and one might have been Diabetic but not one who had a concept of WFPB. All I remember was that no 2 people could eat together and that was startling because 10 years earlier everybody, except for me as a vegetarian, could eat the same food and I just had a non-meat version of the same thing.

          I think it makes things genuinely challenging for health professionals.

          1. I think I just realized, I hated that the communities were getting torn into pieces by diets and that is the same reason my relatives hated me going vegan.

            What occurs to me right now is that what really happened is that everybody was trying to leave SAD and we all went in our own directions.

            I had never had that revelation until this minute.

            Some went anti-soy and anti-legumes and anti-wheat and others went Fodmap and some went Paleo and some went Herbalife, some had become lactose intolerant, etc.

            It wasn’t cancer or diabetes at that time, for most people yet. It was probably listening to Dr. Oz or a PBS special and having gained and lost weight over and over again trying to do SAD moderation and having that fail. My brothers both stayed SAD. Their wives did Gundry and became the soy police and all sorts of things like that.

            But SAD was a type of diet that brought people together easily and the culture started having double-mindedness and split people apart.

            Now, it is just finding new recipes to draw them together again without emphasizing anything at all.

      3. “…..generally either dislike fruit and vegetables ”
        – – – – – –

        I don’t know how anybody can possibly dislike either. Nature gave us wonderful gifts, ours to enjoy.

        And the carnie people keep saying that both are “toxic.” Good Lord, they’re what keep us healthy!

        1. YR/Latrine,

          Surprise! My husband eats most vegetables, but doesn’t care for fruit. So he says. Yet he does like berries (blueberries, strawberries, raspberries) and apples. And though he doesn’t care for avocadoes or cucumbers, he will eat them, in small amounts or small pieces.. and he is eating more of them these days. Oh, and neither one of us enjoy okra.

          So they do exist.

          And then there are those people like my son-in-law with Oral Allergy Syndrome. He’s allergic to at least some raw fruits and vegetables (he doesn’t know exactly which ones, so he avoids them all); it’s a cross-over allergy from hay fever, as the fruits and vegetables contain the same allergens as do pollen. He can eat them cooked, though; the cooking destroys the proteins causing the allergic reaction. But imagine that: no raw fresh fruit! Very sad. But very true.

          1. Dr. J.,

            My daughter is the same way with raw fruits. Can’t eat them, gets a bad reaction. I think there’s a name for that. Will have to google….

            I was never too fond of parsnips or Brussels sprouts, but I hear there are good ways to make them. But fruits? Yummy to all of them, especially watermelon. Just have to watch the portions.

              1. That is interesting, YR.

                I used to faint when I ate some fruit and I believe it was related to the chemicals used in packing them, but that was never verified. I have the theory because someone else ended up having the same thing and told me what they tested for and I stopped eating fruit and stopped passing out. That was when I was a teenager, through my early 20’s.

                I went to a doctor, but the doctor never figured anything out, but a customer of the family business came in talking about it and it seemed like the right answer.

                But I had so many allergies as a young person. They all seem to be gone now, but when I was young I had a constantly runny nose and eczema and rashes from any type of products, even baby oil and so many food allergies.

        2. YR,

          It is because people get used to artificial sweetened and salted foods when they were young.

          Dr. Greger has done a video on it where sweeteners taste sweeter than fruit and once you are doing that process, it is hard to switch back.

          It takes time for the brain and the taste buds to adjust.

          It has to have something to do with the vagal nerve because they can stimulate the vagal nerve to get rid of the faulty emotional relationship with food and I did use that process to start eating fruits and vegetables.

          With fruit, I have always been so super picky. I don’t like wrong textures. I don’t like brown spots or soft spots or bitterness, etc. I eat more fruit now, but if it is a pear, it has to be juicy or I won’t buy pears again for months. If it is blueberries, it can’t be sickeningly sweet or sour. There is a middle blueberry and I can handle that.

      4. What about the Mayo Clinic? Is that mainstream enough for local physicians?

        ‘A diabetes diet is a healthy-eating plan that’s naturally rich in nutrients and low in fat and calories. Key elements are fruits, vegetables and whole grains. In fact, a diabetes diet is the best eating plan for most everyone.’
        https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/diabetes/in-depth/diabetes-diet/art-20044295

        The plant-based approach is not just some minority view

  8. OFF TOPIC:

    I live in a ‘developing country’ in the Tropic of Cancer on the 14th latitude, and am about to go on holiday with my family for 3+ days to the beach. I want to play some informative WFPBD health videos that might be available on youtube.com.

    Outside of Forks Over Knives, can anybody recommend something thought provoking and stimulating (not to mention, current)…?

    Thanking you in advance.

    LG King

      1. Wow, really cool! It is available for rent on YouTube!

        I really enjoyed it!

        I agree with Liisa, I also liked PlantPure Nation, which is free on YouTube and I also liked Eating You Alive and What The Health. I think What The Health might have been free with Prime. Or it might be on YouTube, also. There is one called, “HOPE” which might also either be on YouTube or Prime. I get a lot of free videos from both of those. Forks Over Knives might be someplace, too, but it probably wasn’t free because I didn’t watch it.

    1. Hello Anne,

      Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune condition where the immune system is targeting the pancreatic beta cells. However, insulin resistance is common to all forms of diabetes. So while reversal of Type 1 is not currently possible, improvement in diabetes management can be achieved.

      Mastering Diabetes is a great plant-based program created by 2 people with Type 1 diabetes and they have helped countless people improve their symptoms and better manage blood sugars through nutrition. I would highly suggest visiting their website, https://www.masteringdiabetes.org/ and seeing if that is something you would be interested in.

      I hope this helps,
      Dr. Matt, Health Support

  9. Could Dr.Greger please write something or make a video about diabetes type I ? From a very young age or acquired later in life ( thin sporty people – not obese or overweight).

    1. Anne, Gabs,

      I will tell you that he waits for good studies and only makes videos when they are available.

      There are some cool testimonials over at the Mastering Diabetes site in the success stories and they have some good blog articles. That is run by someone who is Type 1.

  10. I laughed tonight. I won’t go back to the airplane thing again. I have finished processing things, but the shark topic came up at Dr. McDougall’s site when he interviewed Spudfit, he said that the last time he went to the Great Barrier Reef, he went snorkeling and couldn’t find any sharks and that sharks is what he is all about seeing.

    I laughe at the timing. It is very sad the fact that the poor sharks are in the polluted water with all of the people trying to kill them and it is alarming if they are disappearing.

    It was a powerful balance seeing that video right after I had watched the coast guard telling everybody to kick the sharks and what came to mind was I wonder how many people the coast guard are taking to kick the sharks to practice for shark safety, when the snorkelers are swimming with the sharks

    Knowing how to act around sharks probably does have intense value. Though if my plane went down, I would be wearing the killer whale sounds gadget and I would be kicking them, but only if they bumped me first.

    Having people in charge who don’t know peaceful ways of handling things causes so many problems.

    With humans, I had listened to a woman who had called the police when her schizophrenic relative was acting strangely and the police killed him and they were talking about how police escalate things and there was a place where unarmed counselors were sent to diffuse things instead and they got peaceful responses and I am not a counselor, but I remember diffusing things with one man who kept insisting that he was going to kill someone and that he really meant it and he and I talked it through and he calmed down and he changed after that and went on to be a good citizen and is in a happy marriage and he is employed and productive.

    I don’t know how to do that with a shark though. Dr. McDougall does.

  11. A coworker of mine that has Type 1 Diabetes has been diagnosed with Sarcoidosis. Could you please post some information on this condition and possibly include information for people with Diabetes that has this condition?

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