How Not to Die from Cancer

How Not to Die from Cancer
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What happens when we put cancer on a plant-based diet?


Below is an approximation of this video’s audio content. To see any graphs, charts, graphics, images, and quotes to which Dr. Greger may be referring, watch the above video.

After Dr. Dean Ornish conquered our #1 killer, he moved on to killer #2. What happens if you put cancer on a plant-based diet? Ornish and colleagues found that the progression of prostate cancer could be reversed with a plant-based diet and other healthy lifestyle behaviors—and, no wonder.

If you drip the blood of those eating the Standard American Diet onto cancer cells growing in a petri dish, cancer growth is cut down about nine percent. Put people on a plant-based diet for a year, though, and their blood can do this. The blood circulating within the bodies of those eating plant-based had nearly eight times the stopping power, when it came to cancer cell growth.

Now, this was for prostate cancer—the leading cancer killer specific to men. In women, it’s breast cancer—the #1 cancer killer of young women. So, researchers wanted to repeat the study with women, using breast cancer cells instead. But, they didn’t want to wait a whole year to get the results. Women are dying now. So, they figured, let’s see what a plant-based diet could do after just two weeks against three different types of human breast cancer.

Cancer growth started out powering away at 100%, and then dropped, after eating a plant-based diet for 14 days.

Here’s the before picture. A layer of breast cancer cells is laid down in a petri dish, and then blood from women eating the Standard American Diet is dripped on them. And, as you can see, even the blood of women eating pretty poor diets has some ability to break down cancer.

But, after just two weeks eating healthy, blood was drawn from those same women. So, they acted as their own controls. Same women; two weeks later; their blood dripped on a new carpet of breast cancer cells. And, this is all that’s left. Just a few individual cancer cells remained. Their bodies cleaned up! Before and after, just two weeks eating healthy. Their bloodstream became that much more hostile to cancer.

Slowing down the growth of cancer cells is nice. But, getting rid of them is even better. This is what’s called apoptosis, programmed cell death. After eating healthy, their own bodies were able to somehow reprogram the cancer cells, forcing them into early retirement.

This is what’s called TUNEL imaging, measuring DNA fragmentation: cell death. So, dying cancer cells show up as little white spots. So, again, this is the before, what the blood of your average woman can do to breast cancer cells. She can knock off a few. You can see one dying cancer cell there, in the upper left.

But then, after 14 days of healthy plant-based living, her blood can do this. It’s like you’re an entirely different person inside!

The same blood now coursing through these women’s bodies gained the power to significantly slow down and stop breast cancer cell growth—after just two weeks eating a plant-based diet.

What kind of blood do we want in our body? What kind of immune system? Do we want blood that just kind of rolls over when new cancer cells pop up? Or, do we want blood circulating to every nook and cranny in our body, with the power to slow down and stop cancer?

Now, this dramatic strengthening of cancer defenses was after 14 days of a plant-based diet, and exercise. They had these women out walking 30 to 60 minutes a day. Well, if you do two things, how do you know what role the diet played? So, researchers decided to put it to the test.

This is measuring cancer cell clearance. This is what we saw before; the effect of blood taken from those who ate a plant-based diet (in this case, for an average of 14 years), along with mild exercise—just like out walking every day. Plant-based diet, and walking—that’s the kind of cancer cell clearance you get.

Compare that to the cancer-stopping power of your average sedentary American, which is basically nonexistent.

This middle group, though, instead of 14 years on a plant-based diet—14 years of a Standard American Diet. But, 14 years of daily, strenuous, hour-long exercise, like calisthenics.

The researchers wanted to know, if you exercise hard enough, if you exercise long enough, can you rival some strolling plant-eaters over there?

And the answer is, exercise helped—no question. But, literally 5,000 hours in the gym was no match for a plant-based diet.

Same TUNEL imaging as before; even if you’re a couch potato eating fried potatoes, your body’s not totally defenseless. Your bloodstream can kill off a few cancer cells. But, exercise for 5,000 hours, and you can kill cancer cells left and right. But, nothing appears to kick more cancer tush than a plant-based diet.

We think it’s because of animal proteins—meat, egg white, and dairy proteins increase the level of IGF-1 in our bodies. Insulin-like growth factor 1, a cancer-promoting growth hormone involved in the acquisition and progression of malignant tumors.

Here’s the experiment that really nailed IGF-1 as the villain. The same as last time; go on a plant-based diet. Cancer cell growth drops; cancer cell death shoots up. But then, here’s the kicker. What if you add back to the cancer just the amount of IGF-1 banished from your body because you started eating healthier? It effectively erases the “diet and exercise” effect. It’s like you never started eating healthy at all.

So, the reason one of the largest prospective studies on diet and cancer found the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among those eating more plant-based may be because they’re eating less animal protein, less meat, egg white, and dairy protein—so, end up with less IGF-1, which means less cancer growth.

How much less cancer? Middle-aged men and women with high protein intakes had a 75% increase in overall mortality, and a four-fold increase in the risk of dying specifically from cancer. But, not all proteins—specifically animal protein; which makes sense, given the higher IGF-1 levels.

The academic institution sent out a press release with a memorable opening line: “That chicken wing you’re eating could be as deadly as a cigarette,” explaining that eating a diet rich in animal proteins during middle age makes you four times more likely to die from cancer—a mortality risk factor comparable to smoking cigarettes.

What was the response to the revelation that diets high in meat, eggs, and dairy could be as harmful to health as smoking? Well, one nutrition scientist replied that it was potentially dangerous to compare the effects of smoking with the effects of meat and dairy. Why? Because a smoker might think, why bother quitting smoking if my ham and cheese sandwich is just as bad for me? So, better not tell anyone about the whole animal protein thing.

That reminds me of a famous Philip Morris cigarette ad that tried to downplay the risks by saying, hey, you think secondhand smoke is bad (increasing the risk of lung cancer 19%). Well, hey, drinking one or two glasses of milk every day may be three times as bad (62% higher risk of lung cancer). Or, doubling your risk frequently cooking with oil. Or, tripling your risk of heart disease by eating non-vegetarian. Or, multiplying your risk six-fold by eating lots of meat and dairy. So, they conclude, let’s keep some perspective here! “…[T]he risk of lung cancer from second-hand smoke” may be “well below” that of other “everyday…activities.” So, breathe deep.

That’s like saying, don’t worry about getting stabbed, because getting shot is so much worse.

Uh, how about neither? Two risks don’t make a right.

Of course, you know, Philip Morris stopped throwing dairy under the bus once they purchased Kraft foods. Just sayin’…

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Videography courtesy of Grant Peacock 

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Below is an approximation of this video’s audio content. To see any graphs, charts, graphics, images, and quotes to which Dr. Greger may be referring, watch the above video.

After Dr. Dean Ornish conquered our #1 killer, he moved on to killer #2. What happens if you put cancer on a plant-based diet? Ornish and colleagues found that the progression of prostate cancer could be reversed with a plant-based diet and other healthy lifestyle behaviors—and, no wonder.

If you drip the blood of those eating the Standard American Diet onto cancer cells growing in a petri dish, cancer growth is cut down about nine percent. Put people on a plant-based diet for a year, though, and their blood can do this. The blood circulating within the bodies of those eating plant-based had nearly eight times the stopping power, when it came to cancer cell growth.

Now, this was for prostate cancer—the leading cancer killer specific to men. In women, it’s breast cancer—the #1 cancer killer of young women. So, researchers wanted to repeat the study with women, using breast cancer cells instead. But, they didn’t want to wait a whole year to get the results. Women are dying now. So, they figured, let’s see what a plant-based diet could do after just two weeks against three different types of human breast cancer.

Cancer growth started out powering away at 100%, and then dropped, after eating a plant-based diet for 14 days.

Here’s the before picture. A layer of breast cancer cells is laid down in a petri dish, and then blood from women eating the Standard American Diet is dripped on them. And, as you can see, even the blood of women eating pretty poor diets has some ability to break down cancer.

But, after just two weeks eating healthy, blood was drawn from those same women. So, they acted as their own controls. Same women; two weeks later; their blood dripped on a new carpet of breast cancer cells. And, this is all that’s left. Just a few individual cancer cells remained. Their bodies cleaned up! Before and after, just two weeks eating healthy. Their bloodstream became that much more hostile to cancer.

Slowing down the growth of cancer cells is nice. But, getting rid of them is even better. This is what’s called apoptosis, programmed cell death. After eating healthy, their own bodies were able to somehow reprogram the cancer cells, forcing them into early retirement.

This is what’s called TUNEL imaging, measuring DNA fragmentation: cell death. So, dying cancer cells show up as little white spots. So, again, this is the before, what the blood of your average woman can do to breast cancer cells. She can knock off a few. You can see one dying cancer cell there, in the upper left.

But then, after 14 days of healthy plant-based living, her blood can do this. It’s like you’re an entirely different person inside!

The same blood now coursing through these women’s bodies gained the power to significantly slow down and stop breast cancer cell growth—after just two weeks eating a plant-based diet.

What kind of blood do we want in our body? What kind of immune system? Do we want blood that just kind of rolls over when new cancer cells pop up? Or, do we want blood circulating to every nook and cranny in our body, with the power to slow down and stop cancer?

Now, this dramatic strengthening of cancer defenses was after 14 days of a plant-based diet, and exercise. They had these women out walking 30 to 60 minutes a day. Well, if you do two things, how do you know what role the diet played? So, researchers decided to put it to the test.

This is measuring cancer cell clearance. This is what we saw before; the effect of blood taken from those who ate a plant-based diet (in this case, for an average of 14 years), along with mild exercise—just like out walking every day. Plant-based diet, and walking—that’s the kind of cancer cell clearance you get.

Compare that to the cancer-stopping power of your average sedentary American, which is basically nonexistent.

This middle group, though, instead of 14 years on a plant-based diet—14 years of a Standard American Diet. But, 14 years of daily, strenuous, hour-long exercise, like calisthenics.

The researchers wanted to know, if you exercise hard enough, if you exercise long enough, can you rival some strolling plant-eaters over there?

And the answer is, exercise helped—no question. But, literally 5,000 hours in the gym was no match for a plant-based diet.

Same TUNEL imaging as before; even if you’re a couch potato eating fried potatoes, your body’s not totally defenseless. Your bloodstream can kill off a few cancer cells. But, exercise for 5,000 hours, and you can kill cancer cells left and right. But, nothing appears to kick more cancer tush than a plant-based diet.

We think it’s because of animal proteins—meat, egg white, and dairy proteins increase the level of IGF-1 in our bodies. Insulin-like growth factor 1, a cancer-promoting growth hormone involved in the acquisition and progression of malignant tumors.

Here’s the experiment that really nailed IGF-1 as the villain. The same as last time; go on a plant-based diet. Cancer cell growth drops; cancer cell death shoots up. But then, here’s the kicker. What if you add back to the cancer just the amount of IGF-1 banished from your body because you started eating healthier? It effectively erases the “diet and exercise” effect. It’s like you never started eating healthy at all.

So, the reason one of the largest prospective studies on diet and cancer found the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among those eating more plant-based may be because they’re eating less animal protein, less meat, egg white, and dairy protein—so, end up with less IGF-1, which means less cancer growth.

How much less cancer? Middle-aged men and women with high protein intakes had a 75% increase in overall mortality, and a four-fold increase in the risk of dying specifically from cancer. But, not all proteins—specifically animal protein; which makes sense, given the higher IGF-1 levels.

The academic institution sent out a press release with a memorable opening line: “That chicken wing you’re eating could be as deadly as a cigarette,” explaining that eating a diet rich in animal proteins during middle age makes you four times more likely to die from cancer—a mortality risk factor comparable to smoking cigarettes.

What was the response to the revelation that diets high in meat, eggs, and dairy could be as harmful to health as smoking? Well, one nutrition scientist replied that it was potentially dangerous to compare the effects of smoking with the effects of meat and dairy. Why? Because a smoker might think, why bother quitting smoking if my ham and cheese sandwich is just as bad for me? So, better not tell anyone about the whole animal protein thing.

That reminds me of a famous Philip Morris cigarette ad that tried to downplay the risks by saying, hey, you think secondhand smoke is bad (increasing the risk of lung cancer 19%). Well, hey, drinking one or two glasses of milk every day may be three times as bad (62% higher risk of lung cancer). Or, doubling your risk frequently cooking with oil. Or, tripling your risk of heart disease by eating non-vegetarian. Or, multiplying your risk six-fold by eating lots of meat and dairy. So, they conclude, let’s keep some perspective here! “…[T]he risk of lung cancer from second-hand smoke” may be “well below” that of other “everyday…activities.” So, breathe deep.

That’s like saying, don’t worry about getting stabbed, because getting shot is so much worse.

Uh, how about neither? Two risks don’t make a right.

Of course, you know, Philip Morris stopped throwing dairy under the bus once they purchased Kraft foods. Just sayin’…

Please consider volunteering to help out on the site.

Videography courtesy of Grant Peacock 

Image credit: Andrea Ivins

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  1. Professor Barnard (researcher in strolling vegan articles) was one of my favorite professors. I had him for a class on the effects of exercise on the cardiovascular system. I’ll never forget his lecture on cholesterol. He said we all needed to be 100 plus our age. (122 at the time!) He was also associated with the Pritikin center so we were exposed to these nuggets.

    This article is so important, as are others he did/does at UCLA, because it brings into focus the importance of eating high fiber plant based, exercise and obesity. Bravo Dr. Barnard!

        1. WFPBRunner, did you study the effects of hiking, swimming, running etc on the diseased heart? Having had a bypass operation (but no heart attack) I sometimes wonder if my exercise program is too risky or of actual benefit . Any article would be so appreciated.

          1. I am off to work so can’t link articles for you but I will later. But absolutely! Exercise–after you get the ok from your cardiologist. Most local hospitals have cardio rehab clinics. And Medicare and insurance will pay. It will help with your confidence.

            1. thank you so much Tom! Being from a small town, I lack access to programs and resour es others might have but my doctor is amazed at my blood chemistry and fitness.. I tell her wfpb and support from the NF gang is what did it! thank you

              1. You are doing great than. All of the programs whether Dr Ornish, or Dr. Esselstyn, or Dr. McDougle, or Pritikin all includes some form of exercise. Generally walking but if your doctor or therapist is ok with more have at it!

                1. ty WFPBRunner, I appreciate the encouragement. I swim laps 1 hr/day and walk hills on mountain trails 1 hr/day. In the first year after my quad bypass i did request a 24 hr holter monitor that gave me confidence to continue the hills. I am not up to Dr Greger’s dear grandma clocking 9 miles (!) daily, but I consider myself a small miracle nonetheless. Reading the studies gives me inspiration to continue. Thank you

                  1. Hills on mountain trails! That is hard!! Pat yourself on your shoulder. Wow.

                    Dr. Greger cracks me up. I think he walks 18-20 miles per day. He is the strolling vegan.

            1. thank you so much for these links WFPBRunner! Between these and Tom’s recommended link my reading is cut out for me for the next while! I excercise because I enjoy it and because I CAN, but its very reassuring to have the science say its the right thing do (with doc’s ok)

        2. I have a friend who has a bad time with hypoglycemia and doesn’t have a computer. I gave them a copy of “How Not to Die” but they would still like more info on how a plant based diet can help them and they also needed a basic diet plan to help them start off. I tried and scoured the videos but couldn’t come up with much on the specific subject of Hypoglycemia…
          Especially nothing to print out and give to them…

          1. Why does your friend has hypoglycemia? If it is because of diabetes, or insulin spikes it can be reversed with a Whole Food Plant Based Diet. check the website on it. but of course, first the cause of it should be diagnosed by his/her doctor

        3. WFPBRunner super interesting thank you so much! I’m looking into it. Just wondering.. and maybe you can help me: why do they use a “low-fat” diet? I know vegetable oil doesnt seem very healthy but nuts and seeds seem to prolong life. So.. why a “low-fat diet” instead of a “WFPB” oned?

          1. Alexandre: Sigh. This is not an easy question. At least not for me and not the way I understand your question. I am by not means an expert, but if you are interested, I have an analysis that hopefully will give you enough information to be able to take all this in:

            Nuts and seeds are indeed life promoting, but even then, most experts (including Dr. Greger) only recommend a small amount of nuts/seeds each day. Also, I’m not 100% sure what you are referring to, but I think the studies Dr. Greger is reviewing now are studies which included a “low fat whole plant food based diet.” It is important to note that these good diets are not just low fat, but full of whole plant foods. That’s key.
            So, if you are eating say the Daily Dozen as recommended by Dr. Greger, you would be eating a whole plant food based (WPFB) diet, and thus what naturally goes with it (usually), a diet that is generally also considered low fat. Since meat, diary, eggs and of course oils of any kind are so loaded with fat, my feeling is that sometimes people take the shortcut and start talking about a low fat diet and leaving out all those other words. But what we are really talking about is a whole plant food based diet. The question is, can you still eat a whole lot of whole plants such as nuts/seeds etc which are high fat and still have low disease risk?
            There *may* be more to it than just “any whole plant food diet including a diet high in fats” is OK. This is a big controversy here on this site. There are some people who argue that a high fat diet, as long as it is all whole plant foods (say eating lots of avocado and whole soy and nuts and seeds) is not only OK, but health-promoting. Dr. Greger recommends the Daily Dozen and thus does not recommend such a high fat diet. And note that Tom Goff has made some very interesting posts on this topic. A recent post (maybe he can help out and share it again) shared a study which showed, “both the obese and non-obese mice on the high fat diet had much higher mortality than the mice fed the control diet.” In other words, you may or may not become obese, but it may be that high fat diets confer bad outcomes
            just because the diet is high in fat.

            Part of the issue may depend on what a person counts as “low” vs “high”. What is a low fat diet? Dr. Esselystn and Dr. McDougall would try to keep fat at about 10-12% or less I believe. I’m pretty sure at least one of Ornish’s studies had people on 10% fat (and mostly whole plant foods). The traditional Okinawa diet (the one the people who lived so long and healthy on) averaged ate 6% fat. ( ) So, eating 10% fat is not unreasonable. And this I think starts to get at your question. Why a low fat whole plant food based diet? Because those populations for which we have a lot of evidence of both their diet and their long healthy lives happen to eat relatively low fat diets. So, if you were a researcher and trying to reverse a disease, you would likely want to model your diet after a population that successfully avoids that disease.

            I don’t know how much fat the average American is getting, but last I heard, it was up around 40%. I bring this up because a very comfortable diet of whole plant foods that is say 20 to 25% fat may be considered low fat to some people but normal or even high fat compared to others.

            This is definitely not one of my best posts. It’s not as focused as I’d like. But hopefully somewhere in there will be an answer that you will find helpful.

          2. Thea did a great job of answering your question.

            1. Oil not recommended because it is a colorie dense food, and the fiber etc has been dumped down the drain. It is not WFPB. Oil causes arterial inflammation. (See nutrition topics under oil)
            2. When we talk about the amazing work done by Dr. Esselysten and others they are working with very sick people. They had the amazing results on low fat diets.
            3. If someone is exercising quit a bit. Say training for a marathon they can handle the nuts and seeds at higher levels and in many cases must consume larger amounts or they have problems with too low of calories. Again Dr. Greger is a fan of nuts and seeds. See videos above under topics for nuts.

          3. There are a number of plant based diet doctors who advocate very low fat diets until a person is out of the danger zone for obstructed arteries. After that they say it’s fine to have a small amount of seeds/nuts and avocado daily with veggies to help with the uptake of nutrients. Dr McDougall is very much against this and recommends people stay on very low fat all the time.

            You’re right, oil isn’t healthy. Most plant based doctors say no oil, period! Dr McDougall has a video on youtube that talks about his “starch solution” diet and in it he spends a few minutes talking about how adding oil to your food increases your risk of cancer. People don’t know or sometimes forget that when oil is extracted from the whole food that it immediately starts to go rancid, which causes inflammation and other problems.

            I’m not an expert. I’m just trying to share what I know and have come to believe after many years of being trying to eat a plant based diet. Hope that helps a little.

            Mark G

          4. Hi Alexandre. I am just following up on Thea’s post where she mentioned some mouse studies. I think these are the ones she is referring to:

            “C57BL/6J mice were fed with a HF diet (60% kcal/fat) or control diets (15% kcal/fat) for 27 months. One-half of the mice on the HF diet developed obesity (diet-induced obese (DIO) mice), whereas the remaining mice were diet resistant (DR). At 8 months of age, both DIO and DR groups had increased hyperglycemic response during a glucose tolerance test, which was normalized in 16-month-old mice. At this latter time point, all groups presented similar performance in cognitive tests (Morris water maze and inhibitory avoidance). The survival curves of the HF and control diet groups started to diverge at 15 months of age and, after 27 months, the survival rate of mice in the DIO and DR groups was 40%, whereas in the control diet group it was 75%.”
            High saturated fat and low carbohydrate diet decreases lifespan independent of body weight in mice
            Longev Healthspan. 2013; 2: 10.
            Published online Jun 3, 2013. doi: 10.1186/2046-2395-2-10

            There was another interesting mouse study published in 2014:
            ‘The team put mice on 25 different diets, altering the proportions of protein, carbohydrates and fat. The mice were allowed to eat as much food as they wanted to more closely replicate the food choices humans make.
            “The healthiest diets were the ones that had the lowest protein, 5 to 10 to 15 per cent protein, the highest amount of carbohydrate, so 60, 70, 75 per cent carbohydrate, and a reasonably low fat content, so less than 20 per cent,” Professor Le Couteur said.
            “They were also the diets that had the highest energy content.
            “We found that diluting the diets to reduce the energy intake actually made the animals die more quickly.”
            The mice that ate a high-carbohydrate, low-protein diet lived about 50 per cent longer than those on the low-carb diet.”

            I think the latest conventional wisdom now is that the total amount of fat we eat is not important but the type of fat is. This is based on studies which show that replacing trans fats and saturated fats with unsaturated fats improves health. They do not, to my mind, demonstrate that adding oils to a WFPB diet or eating a high fat WFPB diet will improve health compared to a high-carb WFPB.

            The World Health Organization recommends that a minimum of 15% of calories should come from fat. However, as Thea has noted, the traditional Okinawan diet had only 6% of calories coming from fat while Esselstyn and Ornish delivered excellent results with fewer than 10% of calories coming from fat.

              1. Thank you all so much for your replies!!!! Really interesting ones :) however none of them really adressed my question: I know oils arent healthy, and saturated fats arent either. And olives have loads of sodium, But what about whole plant sources of fat like nuts and seeds?

                Those mouse studies showing saturated fat decreses lifespan are just showing that saturated fat isnt good but we already know that.

                I will try to be more specific:
                – on renal function for example protein is bad for your kidneys but plant protein seems to improve it;
                – nuts and seeds not only seem to prolong life
                – it has been shown that nuts improve cardiovascular markers as lipid profile etc
                – atkins is bad for you but “echo-atkins” (high fat plant based diet) seems to prolong life!

                So.. I now, from your answers understand why they study “low fat” diets. It works on populations so lets try to replicate that and verify it on a controlled enviroment. However, I Think I remember Dr Greger stating in some video: “so maybe it doesnt matter what your macros are, but rather the source of it!?”

                I understand that eating only nuts and seeds wont be a very healthy option but I give you my case: Im an extremely skinny guy.. I have been extremely skinny since birth (and I mean it, it doesnt look healthy) even when I was an omnivore… and I’m now Im doing crossfit and eating WFPBD making extremely healthy smoothies adding two table spoons of say peanut butter to make my calories go up… I still eat a lot of carbs and protein but sticking to whole plant foods is hard to eat tons of it!!! even thought Ive always ate large portions that makes people wonder how Im so skinny eating so much

                So my question remains and I think it will stay unaswered for some time. until Dr Greger says .. “there havent been such a study…..UNTIL 2029!!”

                1. I am not sure what part of your question was not answered. If it is why you are skinny, it is probably because you are active and have a fast metabolism. Some people do. You can obviously consume more calories than most people can, without gaining weight. With regard to nuts, there is a lot of information here, if you have not already seen these:
                  Dr. Greger also advocates eating flaxseeds and other seeds. More here:

      1. here is a couple you might be interested in:

        – Natural solutions for muscle wasting in cancer:
        – Sun and cancer: why you may be doing it wrong:

        A warning on a popular alternative therapy for cancer:

    1. Hello,

      My name is Cas, I am 16 years old. I have been eating plant-based for about a year now, for ethical and health-related reasons. Dr. Michael Greger and this website have been a great help in trying to eat as healthy as possible. I have learned that plant-based, or vegan, eating can greatly reduce the risk of various diseases, and that is the main reason why I have been trying to convince my family to go vegan for about a year as well.
      About two years ago, my mother was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. After surgery and several chemos, her blood levels became normal again, and she was seemingly healthy. Unfortunately, my mother was diagnosed with cancer again two weeks ago. She is still in her fifties and she is a ‘flexitarian’, she only eats meat and eggs when it is part of a dish. She still eats cheese, however. My mother mainly eats a home-made ‘muesli’ bar, which is basically oats, dried fruits, nuts, seeds, some date syrup and a few bananas to bind it all, baked in the oven. That is, because it is a food that her digestive system can handle very well. She eats one or two cooked meals per day, consisting of one to three kinds of vegetables, white rice, and incidentally cheese or little bits of meat or an egg (in a sauce for example). This means that she is both very young, eats a mainly plant-based diet and even exercises regularly, and it makes it hard to understand why she got ill. I do understand that a plant-based diet cannot prevent all disease, of course.
      That is why I have been wondering, how big is the difference between a fully plant-based diet and a mainly plant-based diet, when considering the health and disease-preventing effects? I do not know whether I should try even harder to convince my mother to go fully plant-based, or vegan, is it worth it? This is a very important question to me, and because I can’t find the answer myself I was hoping that a moderator on this website could help me out.

      Thank you,


        1. Denise Rose,

          Thank you very much for your reply. I realized today that I never replied to your answer to my question, and I want to say thank you very much!. I translated and summarized the book for my mother, because we are a Dutch family. She eats even less animal products now, barely any. We also eat more beans and legumes. My mother decided that she wants to postpone chemo until she starts feeling ill. She still feels OK now, so we want the chemo to be postponed for as long as possible of course. Thank you very much.


          1. Cas, how wonderful that you made such an effort to translate Dr. Barnard’s book! I am happy to hear that your mom is willing to eliminate more of the animal foods that promote cancer-such a huge and important step. I wish her well!!! If you would like to keep learning more about whole food plant-based diets and see some cooking videos, I have a Facebook and Youtube page under the name Happy Vegan Couple. If you think it could be helpful, I invite you to to subscribe on both Facebook and Youtube. Best to you!

  2. I believe Dr. McGregor is overselling the results of the Ornish prostate cancer study. The Ornish study was confined to men with a Gleason score of 6 or below. The Gleason score reflects the aggressiveness of the prostate cancer and is a 2 to 10 point scale. Prostate cancers with a Gleason score of 8 or above are considered aggressive. Men with Gleason scores of 6 or below are often monitored (“Active Surveillance”) but not actively treated due to the non-aggressive nature of a Gleason 6 (or lower) prostate cancer. This is a very important limitation in the Ornish study which Dr. McGregor fails to even mention.

      1. Exactly. With every study showing reduced rates of cancer with plant based diets it’s just silly to pursue legalistic arguments. This is not just one study. This is multiple studies, by reputable researchers, following hundreds of thousands of people for decades. No. Exceptions.

      2. Also, even though men with Gleason 6 or lower are often observed because the cancer isn’t aggressive you still don’t usually see spontaneous regression of the cancer like they saw in the men in the Ornish study.

        1. Really? When did they drop the period for an abbreviation like Dr. for Doctor? Things like that have grown out of computer use, IMHO.

          1. Wrong question: it’s not “When did they drop it?” but “When did they add it?”; and can you explain the function of the full stop in this situation?

            1. When I was in school we were taught to put a period after an abbreviation. That’s how we did it when I edited a magazine, too. Maybe the rule has changed, but that’s how we learned it back in the Dark Ages.

              1. Why do you say “Dark Ages”??? IMHO it was a time when people learned true spelling and grammar, these people who type on their phones show no respect for them (and many more things!) and very often type all kinds of nonsense too because they don’t even bother proofreading what they type, and to me it’s a lack of respect for the reader, old school or not!

        2. I was born and raised in a former British colony and now live in the US. In British English, when you abbreviate a word, if the word and the abbreviation both end with the same letter, you omit the period (full stop) in the abbreviation. In American English, you include the period in the abbreviation regardless. So, in British English, it’s Dr and in American English it’s Dr.. To compare, the title Professor abbreviates as Prof. in both forms of English.

    1. Stephen Roush: I agree that it should be mentioned, but I suppose the problem is that men with high Gleason scores are likely to accept more radical treatments which would make nutritional intervention hard to study. One way to do it, however, would be to persuade men who already committed to prostate removal to go on a WFPB diet anyway for two months (It typically takes two months from positive biopsy to surgery, to allow the inflammation caused by the biopsy to subside), then study the removed prostate tissue.

      This is what was done in the vitamin D study described here: which ended up showing the potency of vitamin D against prostate cancer. The same protocol for WFPB diet would give a better picture of its efficacy for prostate cancern treatment.

        1. @halthevegan:disqus It’s pretty remarkable, isn’t it? The methods and data seem comparable to many other studies that Dr. G cites favorably. Getting back to @Stephen Roush’s point above, a study like the one desribed by Hollis, but using WFPB diet instead of D levels, would be more powerful than the evidence currently available re prostate cancer. Even so, I’m inclined to think that the sum total of the evidence suggests a protective effect for WFPB, but stronger evidence is always better.

    2. I don’t remember if he said how long the study ran, but often some results come quickly, and increase as healthy eating continues. If the study was short, perhaps it doesn’t tell the whole story.

        1. I guess…! :-) Jokes aside, I learned very long ago, in a Human Relations class, that a person’s name is the sweetest sound to them and that it’s very important to get it right… I believe it’s true, so I feel it’s poor etiquette to get a person’s name wrong.

    1. Nicholas Tombros: Dr. Greger said in a post in the previous video that our bodies will convert DHA to EPA. So, you can get a supplement with all DHA or a supplement that has some of both. It doesn’t matter.

        1. WFPBRunner: I tried, but I wasn’t 100% sure where Alexandre’s question was coming from and I wasn’t sure how to answer. Maybe if you get a chance later, you could share your own thoughts. :-)

      1. I’m so sorry Thea, I didnt see your post answering Nicholas.I wouldnt have answered otherwise. .disqus does this to me sometimes. Maybe restarting the pc will help. Many thanks to you and to the NF team for your excellent work

        1. Oh no need to apologize. Far better two answers than zero!!! The moderators simply can’t respond to everyone. I so appreciate it when others step up and help out.

    2. hi Nicholas, I was at work and didnt see your question until now.. I think Thea answered that 350 times yesterday LOL por girl .. I am no authority, but what I learned is the body can make EPA from DHA or vice versa. Therefore a person could talke 250 mg DHA or a combination of EPA/DHA and it will work fine. The links for the studies (under each video) also contain good info sometimes in the abstracts andcharts etc Hope that helps!

  3. The book “Dr. Dean Ornish’s Program For Reversing Heart Disease” is one of the best books I have ever read. The Doctor Dean Ornish book recommends a Whole Food Plant Based diet. It seems that the same program that reverses heart disease also is effective on cancer.

    1. it’s also the same diet that reverses inoperable, progressive, terminal brain disease.
      speaking from 5 years experience…. :o)

        1. hi darryl, read on down till you see my youtube post of dr esselstyn saying, “No Oil”.

          then scroll a little further to my last post relaying my 5.5 year journey from “inoperable and progressive” to “complete reversal of disease” thru diet alone.

          i followed dr esselstyn and his book, “Prevent And Reverse Heart Disease” to a tee, not one deviation.


  4. I am a bit confused about data findings. I recently listened to a video by Dr. Gregor about a Vegan who died at age 40 plus. He discusses in great length about studies he discovered from the Harvard Library- following 9,000 Vegans. He stated that they did not out “perform” in many categories and in fact, did more poorly. He then goes on to discuss why. I would love to believe these more recent videos but struggle with these discrepancies in data. I too am an animal lover and health inthusiast. Please set me straight!

    1. did you listen to the 10 minute bastardized version or the full 75 minute version?

      40 Year Vegan Dies of a Heart Attack! Why? The Omega-3 and B12 Myth with Dr. Michael Greger 1:16:33

      the short version only makes sense if you’ve seen the full one.

      otherwise it’s almost deceitful and i think should be removed as it passes on the wrong idea.

      bottom line is to take your 3-4 TBS ground flaxseed/day.

    2. That video was of a presentation he delivered in 2003. Since then, more studies have been published including the 7th Day Adventist studies.

      As well as the issues discussed in the full video, one of the other problems with population studies looking at vegetarians is that they often do not look at why people adopt vegetarian diets. It seems that a number of people adopt vegetarian diets precisely because they have serious health issues. If that is the case, it is not surprising that vegetarians as a group do not have better mortality outcomes and health than omnivores. Other things being equal, we would in fact expect people who have poorer health to begin with to display higher rates of mortality and disease. The fact that they do not may be indicative of benefits from such diets

      The 7th Day Adventist studies however are of people who adopt vegetarian diets for religious reasons rather than because they have received a diagnosis of disease or experienced poor health. Those studies show that vegetarians experience significantly lower mortality risk than non-vegetarians.

        1. They primarily compare meat eaters with non-meat eaters. All were 7th Day Adventists. In the study, they found that non meat eaters had only 88% of the mortality risk of meat eaters. We could assume that meat-eaters mostly ate the SAD diet but we don’t know that for sure.

          In this study, people who ate meat were called “non-vegetarians”. People who did not eat any meat at all were called “vegetarians” and those people who ate a completely vegetarian diet were called “vegans”. People who only ate meat occasionally were called semi-vegetarians. The study also broke the “vegetarians” down into subgroups – lacto-ovo vegetarians, pesco-vegetarians etc

          In men, “vegans” had the lowest mortality risk – only 72% of that of meat-eating males. However, among women it was different, there pesco-vegetarians had the lowest risk – they had 88% of the mortality risk of meat eating women. We don’t know why there were these differences between men and women

        2. i’m not sure i understand your question but i think the 7th day’ers had about a 10 year life extension (or so) over the SAD eaters but they do eat dairy or eggs or some combination of that.

          one can only wonder if the strict, NO OIL VEGANS were separated from the vegetarian group what the life extension would then be.


      1. {{presentation he delivered in 2003}}

        you are exactly right, tom. i totally forgot how old that video was but it sure was an education in fats, wasn’t it? every time i re-watch it i still can’t completely get my head around the pathways presented.

        and you are right on about the 7th day adventists showing significantly lower mortality risk. it’s unfortunate that the western diet has so influenced the okinawans that they lost first place in longevity to the 7th day’ers..

        it’s too bad that a study isn’t done on the purely NO-FAT WFPB vegan 7th day’ers compared to the vegetarian 7th day’ers who eat dairy and i think eggs or something along those lines.

        I bet it would show an even more impressive difference!


        1. AZ DONALD: re: “…but it sure was an education in fats, wasn’t it?” That’s what I thought! Some of the theories and information in that talk did not pan out, but it sure was a helpful education on the topic of fat.

    1. Hi George. This is just my experience, for what it’s worth. In 2000, my opthamologist found that I was just beginning to develop cataracts. Scared, I read what was available to me at the time w/o internet which was the book “The Eye Care Revolution”. Leafy greens (especially spinach), foods high in vitamin C and E, selenium as well as some supplements had been shown in various studies to prevent cataracts. I evaluated my diet and added in lots of spinach, vitamin C fruits, and began taking a low dose selenium supplement as my diet is somewhat deficient in selenium. Sixteen years later, the tiny cataracts have not changed and are the same as they were when they first appeared. The limited research I’ve seen on astaxanthin suggests that it crosses into the retina and macula, but I haven’t seen studies about it getting into the lens.

    2. George: I don’t have cataracts but was told recently that I’m at high risk. Having done a lot of research online at the library, this is what I do;
      Eat: green-leafy vegetables, anthocyanin-rich foods, amla, turmeric, goji berry, brazil nuts; Supplements: vitamin C, vitamin E, alpha lipoic acid, taurine, grape seed extract, zinc, NAC, astaxanthin (, DHA Avoid as much as possible:steroidal drugs

    3. didnt help me…my cataract is getting worse and ive been on it for over a year,,,including kale .broccoli,blueberries etc along with astaxanthin supplements

        1. just olive oil small amounts,,, and the oil from nuts and seeds…Im vegetarian,,,its in one eye,,,i forgot the gojii berrie…my wife is chinese…shes always going about goijii berries which i took for awhile,,,for its anthocyanin…i still continue with the astaxanthin supplment 4 mg/day supplement and my vegetarian diet,,,along with leutein etc…cant hurt,,,

          1. {{just olive oil small amounts,,,}}

            it’s those small amounts that will kill you (or could make you blind).

            i firmly believe that after my own life experience and now understand completely what dr esselstyn meant because if a food is good for you, you can eat it in any amount, not limit it to just a little bit.


                1. Christine Kestner and Thea: Thea, thanks for the reply. I apologize for my off-topic question. I realize that there are minor differences in opinion among the various WFPB advocates, and it’s best to take such questions to the appropriate forum.

                  1. Todd: We can’t always reply even when something is on topic. In this case, I don’t consider a question about nuts to be off topic for NutritionFacts! I have enjoyed your participation on this site and your question is a common one that we get all the time here.

              1. Todd: From what I have read and heard from Dr. Esseslstyn, he does not advocate that people with advanced heart disease eat nuts or seeds. However, he definitely thinks that *some* nuts/seeds for healthier people is just fine. His book even contains a recipe for a dressing that includes walnuts and that he says he enjoys with his family. The recipe just comes with a warning that people with advanced heart disease should skip that recipe.

              2. yes and exactly what thea said.
                {{he does not advocate that people with advanced heart disease eat nuts or seeds}}

                but you have to look at it this way. every single autopsied 10 year old child in this country has fatty streaks in their heart arteries.

                IOW, they ALL have heart disease. the beginning of heart disease yes, but heart disease nonetheless.

                so… every one of us adults definitely has heart, brain and other vessel disease no matter how you look at it and it’s severity is only visible on autopsy. medical exams won’t show the disease until it exhibits itself and by then it’s too late because symptoms don’t show until about 85+% blockage.

                soooo when i was inoperable 5 years ago, i went NO OIL WFPB overnight and took every word esselstyn said to heart. NO OIL and NO FATTY PLANTS like avocado, olives and especially nuts because you and i know that you can’t eat just one peanut, lol.

                oils, especially vegetable oils cause VESSEL INFLAMMATION and i couldn’t take the risk of experimenting if whole plant fats were good or bad, i literally had weeks/months left. i was having up to 15 entire left sided body strokes (mini strokes or TIA’s) per day and had no room for error when told to go home and die as there was nothing else medical science had for me.

                no one can even come close to imagining what it’s like to feel like a dead man walking EVERY SINGLE DAY OF YOUR LIFE for the first 4 or 5 years until i was sure i had conquered it. every waking moment you would wonder about this or that tingle and is this finally it? man that was horrible.

                overnight, i changed my diet and have not had one more ‘episode’ since the day i did.

                i always use his analogy which makes perfect sense.

                your vessels on fire are like your home is on fire which is why the plaque has formed, like a scab on your arm from repeated rubbing against an object.

                you would not pour a gallon of gas on the house while waiting for the fire department.

                why would you throw “just” a pint of gas on it?

                same with the vessels and “just a little bit of oil”.

                after 5.5 years i have moderated my view a little bit but still pretty much stick to the no fatty foods like nuts.

                it took a lot of tooth pulling just to get me to start taking ground flaxseed but now i do and take 4 TBS/day.

                once every couple of months when we go to Sweet Tomatoes (Souplantation), i have started to pile the black olives onto my massive, superb salads but that’s about it and it’s the only restaurant that we ever visit.

                i really feel sorry for the WFPB folks who don’t have one of these wonderful restaurants in their state.

                man we love that place and there’s no better desert than a nice hot, foil baked sweet potato which has sweet juices running out of it like butter. i always grab one more for the road and our hour and a half ride home.



                1. @azdonald:disqus: First, thank you for sharing your story, which is very powerful. I haven’t read Esselstyn yet. I’m very new to this whole WFPB idea, coming from about 20 years of hardcore lowcarb paleo thinking. I’m slowly working my way through the WFPB reading list, and following the McDougall diet pretty closely.

                  As I do so, I also try to investigate what look like core claims. I’m currently reading T. Colin Campbell’s book, “Whole”, in which he describes the thought process that led to his China Study and beyond, especially the link between animal protein and various cancers. It’s a very good read. I haven’t read the China Study itself yet. I have read most of Dr. G’s “How Not to Die” and Dr. McDougall’s “Starch Solution.” I find I have certain nagging questions, but I’m still willing to follow the diet as described. One of my nagging questions has to do with the claim that, as you expressed it, “oils, especially vegetable oils cause VESSEL INFLAMMATION.” I can’t confirm this (yet) in the scientific literature. It seems that SOME oils definitely do this. Corn oil, in particular, looks like an offender, but the literature on oils in general is anything but clear. For example, suggests that walnuts improve vascular function, which would be unlikely if they also caused inflammation.

                  But since this is off-topic for this video thread, I won’t pursue the matter here. Maybe we can return to it in another thread. Thank you again for sharing your story, which I take very seriously.

                  1. you are very welcome, Todd, and do not worry about hijacking this thread. thea said elsewhere that this discussion is welcome here.

                    I, like you, came from a hardcore, low carb paleo mindset from my early 20’s to 53. i was an avid weightlifter/bodybuilder bench pressing 260# at a bodyweight of 160#. i ate 5+ protein meals per day to keep my nitrogen balance high mimicking how steroids work to allow a proper environment to build muscle. i even got up at 1am to have a 30gm protein meal like liver pills or a shake. i was the picture of health, obviously not steroidal looking but very solid and ‘firm’ looking thru my clothes. people would come up to me at powerhouse gym in detroit asking which natural bodybuilding show i was training for… lol.

                    fast forward 30 years and i go from healthy every year at my physical to ‘go home and die because there’s nothing left medical science can do for you’. WTH?!?!?

                    do yourself a favor. put all the books you are now reading on hold and go get “Prevent And Reverse Heart Disease” by Dr Esselstyn. it’s literally written at a 6th grade level and can be finished in lazy saturday afternoon.

                    out of everything i’ve read and watched, this was the simplest most to the point information out there. also, youtube all of his lectures and various videos. i actually did not read the book until AFTER i had reversed my disease as everything i learned was from youtube and the net mainly esselstyn but also mcdougal. i do wish i had read the book first but either way, i got to my end result successfully.

                    regarding various “studies”. don’t forget that virtually all of them are done on fat sick americans who have been eating the SAD and are disease ridden with plaques everywhere even though they don’t know it.

                    a study showing walnuts or this nut or this fat are good for you can be extremely misleading.

                    if a big old fat, mc donalds eating, beer drinking man in the study shows an improvement in blood chemistry by adding two fistfulls of nuts per day then it’s most likely because he is incorporating a lesser bad fat over a worse bad fat. hence the improvement in blood analysis but will that be true of a rural chinese person or a true no oil vegan like myself? that’s not clear and it’s nearly impossible to determine but i would guess not.

                    that is a HUGE problem with all of these studies. it’s like how everyone thinks that olive oil is heart healthy because of the mediterranean study. everyone remembers that initial research but not the followup studies that show those people did better IN SPITE OF THE OLIVE OIL because of the massive amounts of fresh fruits and veggies that they consumed. those healthy, voluminous foods overwhelmed the negative effects of the olive oil.

                    to this day, uninformed doctors remember that olive oil is ‘heart healthy’ and slather it on their food as they fall over from heart attacks and strokes. even my ‘esteemed head neurologist’ at the U of A was trying to tell me that olive oil was heart healthy. he’s also one of the two docs who told me not to change my diet after the terminal diagnosis because diet change will NOT make any difference and to just ‘enjoy the time i had left’. yeah right, guess i showed them, lol.

                    i don’t give credence to ANY studies unless they are done on indigenous, rural peoples or true, NO OIL ADDED VEGANS, precisely because of my point above.

                    do yourself a favor, go get esselstyns book before you finish the other ones you are reading and THEN go finish them. i bet you will appreciate my suggestion.

                    take care,

                    1. Todd, the china study was an incredible bore to me and i didn’t make it very far into that book. here’s an incredible synopsis of it. copy and paste it into an email or whatever and then print it, this is fantastic.

                      SYNOPSIS OF THE CHINA STUDY
                      Condensed Synopsis Compiled by Nathan Batalion ND


                      When this study began in the 1980’s, it appeared the death rate from heart disease for males in the US was 17x higher than in China. The death rate from breast cancer was 5x higher. The China Project set out to find out why. Rural China was an ideal living laboratory for the most comprehensive study ever made of whole and entire diet and lifestyle patterns. This involved looking at not just one or another food nutrient in isolation but rather roughly 1000 different items of information per person gathered in a 1989 survey. This was an ideal study because the average Chinese spent most of their lifetimes in the same region eating similar foods – unlike restless Americans and Europeans whose daily dietary choices can vary with each city street residence and ethnic restaurant visited.

                      Secondly, diets in China varied dramatically in different provinces, as did the disease and death rates. A massive data base was used to focus on these differences. It contained the death and disease rates of some 80 million Chinese. This was used to select 65 Chinese counties for study. Sometimes the death rates varied several hundredfold, begging us to ask – why exactly! Regions with the highest and lowest rates were chosen and the pursuit began to relate many chronic diseases, including seven major cancers such as stomach, liver, lung and breast. Researchers asked themselves why did men in one part of China die of esophageal cancer at rates 435X higher than in another part.

                      DISEASE ORIGINS & CAUSES

                      Among the first startling finding was that certain groups of diseases kept occurring together, clustering in certain regions. For example, there were regions with simultaneously high diabetes, coronary heart disease, and cancer disease rates while other regions had simultaneously high levels of pneumonias, infections, digestive ailments, nephritis, and rheumatic heart disease rates. Somehow lifestyle differences caused not just different disease rates but higher or lower disease clusters. The first group of diseases were correlated to more affluence regions and the second to more poverty-ridden ones. This implied some common causes further related to the degree of access to expensive food and health services.

                      The second major finding was that the “rich disease cluster” was highly correlated to raised levels of blood cholesterol and urea nitrogen. Thus the highest blood cholesterols had the highest cancer and heart disease rates. The lowest cholesterol levels, the lower such disease rates were.

                      Such correlations held up even though the highest blood cholesterol rates in China (90-170) matched the lowest in the US (170-290). Still even a tiny increase in blood cholesterol levels was tied to a about half as much cholesterol blood levels. This implied even eating quite small amounts of animal protein products (like once a week) significantly matched a rise in clustered degenerative diseases. By contrast, eating high levels of plant foods did not and they rather brought down the cholesterol levels! This startling result was not anticipated.

                      The Chinese have had a much lower risk of osteoporosis than Americans, even though the Chinese consume far less dairy. We know that high levels of protein intake is tied to high levels of calcium being lost or excreted in the urine. We know that calcium is an alkaline mineral that neutralizes acids, and that animal protein digestion leaves acid residues. Thus animal protein intake, even in small amounts, could cause a drawing out of calcium and other alkaline minerals from our bones and teeth. Eating vegetables, often high in calcium, doesn’t have this effect.

                      HEART DISEASE
                      17x as many Americans die of heart disease compared to the Chinese who have half as much blood cholesterol. Studies show that eating animal protein raises blood cholesterol levels. Thus lean meats are no escape.

                      BREAST CANCER
                      The China Project highlighted a worldwide chart that showed breast cancer rates in about 40 countries rose in parallel with the amount of animal protein intake. Besides the rise in cholesterol levels, other factors were significantly linked with higher breast cancer death rates. These included dietary fat, estrogen and blood testosterone levels, and the earlier onset of a first menstruation.

                      LUNG CANCER
                      Researchers found a low rate of lung cancer up until the introduction of cigarettes. China’s ministries of agriculture and commerce promoted tobacco for economic reasons with tragic results. Approximately 50 million Chinese now are projected to die from lung cancer.

                      BOWEL CANCER
                      The China Project conclusively found that the higher the intake of fiber (derived from plant sources), the lower the rate of colon cancer. The Chinese eat three times as much fiber and starch. At present approximately 140,000 Americans die each year from colon cancer.

                      LIVER CANCER
                      While China-wide rates are low, certain regions had high levels. Previously scientists believed that aflatoxins in moldy grains and beans were a primary cause, but this did not bear out in the China Project. Instead, those infected with viral hepatitis (an astonishing 12-13% of Chinese compared to less than 1% of Americans) were predisposed to liver cancer. A second correlated factor was high cholesterol levels – tied again to animal-protein diets. In the west, alcoholic consumption is also associated with liver cancer.

                      STOMACH CANCER
                      Individuals commonly infected with bacterium Heliobacter pylori were at an increased risk of stomach cancer. Both of these disease patterns remind us of relatively high levels of infectious diseases a century ago in the West and relatively low levels of contemporary chronic ailments. No doubt those predisposed to liver and stomach cancers in China would have had much higher rates if they ate the sweet and sour pork that is typical of Americanized Chinese food. What the above also reflects is a lack of modern refrigeration in China at the time. Foods were most often preserved via fermentation or salting (also a stomach irritant), and this allowed for bacteria and mold to sometimes contaminate the process, as a precursor to these two chronic ailments.


                      All in all, the single most dramatic finding of the China Project was the degree and strength of the correlation of animal-origin foods to a variety of cancers. Dr. Chen Junshi, the chief Chinese researcher was not surprised with this result of comparing villages with the highest and lowest cancer rates. “We expected that because it followed animal experiments.” He was referring to a series of animal experiments where rats were fed animal proteins and had a rapid cancer etiology. When the diet stopped, the tumor growths halted or the cancers were routinely turned on and off by diet alone. Why? One explanation is that the digestion of excess protein releases several acids, more than the bloodstream can handle or effectively alkalinize. This then acidifies the blood stream causing chronic ailments, including cancerous tumors and precancerous growths. It leaches alkaline minerals from the bones to trigger osteoporosis. While the China Project led to the recommendation of an 8-10% vegetable-protein diet, the standard American diet (SAD) has 11-22% protein with 70% from animal sources. This again may be compared to 10% from animal sources in China with total protein intake at least a 1/3rd less.

                      In China most cancers, cardiovascular ailments and types of diabetes were linked to high animal protein diets, and with significantly less intake than with the Standard American Diet. Powerful companies selling meats have influenced major media and institutions to keep Americans misinformed about this most potent connection.


                      Reducing animal protein intake will reduce blood cholesterol. Reducing animal protein intake by 1% tended to reduce the chance of heart disease by 2-3%. FATS – The Chinese eat 6-24% fat compared to 36-46% in the US where chronic ills are more prevalent.


                      The Chinese eat close to 300 more calories per day but were not obese. It seems easier to burn calories with a high carbohydrate (2x the starch), and low animal protein diet (2x the plant protein instead) and low fat (1/2 or less as a % of calories).

                      The China Project found eating more anti-oxidant and vitamin C-rich whole foods (not synthetic isolates) lowered the relative risk of many cancers. The Chinese took in about 2x as much Vitamin C.

                      SUFFICIENT IRON
                      The Chinese had about 2x the intake of iron. This is contrary to the myth that a vegetarian diet results in an iron deficiency. A Harvard study showed that an increase of iron from vegetable sources lowers the risk of heart attack.

                      PLENTY OF FIBER
                      It used to be thought that a high fiber diet might bind with minerals to cause deficiencies. In the China Project, subjects with high fiber vegetarian diets had more minerals in their blood and the higher the intake of their fiber, the lower the bowel cancer rate. Meat products offered little or no fiber.

                      MORE FOR FOLLOW UP

                      High levels in the blood correlated to certain cancers.

                      High levels in the urine correlated to liver cancer.

                      HERPES SIMPEX
                      This correlated to heart disease.

                      Increased animal protein intake, including milk, was not connected to increased height in the subjects. The Chinese generally tend to be shorter perhaps because of a combination of childhood infections and genetic determinants.

                      MENOPAUSE & PMS
                      A high animal protein diet may be correlated to elevated hormones and the triggering of earlier menopause. In China women tend to have fewer symptoms of menopause, including hot flashes was well as lower estrogen levels. When not so high, their fall has less steep. Foreign hormones fed to animals may be a trigger for breast cancer. Diets rich in plant-based foods have ingredients like magnesium that calm PMS symptoms. Plant foods like soy have phyto-estrogens that ease symptoms.

                      MALE PROSTATE DISEASE
                      A study of 68,000 men showed that those who ate the highest animal fat diets had about 80% more prostate cancer. The worst foods included red meat and butter. China had the lowest prostate cancer rates in the world, about 1 in every 100,000 compared to 19 out of 100,000 Chinese-Americans living in San Francisco. About 10% of American males will get prostate cancer in their lifetime (compared to less than 1% in China). A low-fat, high fiber diet lowers the triggers.


                      The China Project showed that animal-based foods should be replaced by plant-based foods with health benefits. This could significantly reduce obesity, heart disease, cancers, high blood pressure, diabetes, osteoporosis, kidney ailments and much more. A study of Seventh Day Adventists who are vegetarians has corroborated this. As Dean Ornish writes, “Animal products…are the main culprit in what is killing us. We can absolutely live better lives without them.” This transition in diets can take time, but even small steps toward a plant-based diet yield positive results. According to nutritional scientists, here are a list of further dietary suggestions that may help avoid 80-90% of premature deaths from chronic diseases.

                      We only need 8-10% proteins in our diets, and a plant-based diet provides that and is the healthiest.

                      Skip animal proteins and processed fats and you will skip most cardiovascular/heart diseases and cancers.

                      INCREASE: FIBER-RICH FOODS
                      This lowers cholesterol and avoids bowel cancer.

                      EAT: WHOLE PLANT-BASED FOODS
                      This includes roots, stems, leaves, flowers (such as broccoli florets) for a symphony of nutrients. Be careful with supplement isolates (not compete substitutes for whole foods). Ultimately moving to a diet of whole, plant-based foods plus the use of modern refrigerators gives us the best of both worlds. The China Project was the most comprehensive nutritional study ever, but it still does not address many issues, so that we have room for more exciting findings.

                      What is the impact of eating foods grown in enhanced organic soils?

                      What is the impact of incorporating more alkaline and nutrient-dense superfoods, such as green kale, collards, sea algae, herbs and sprouts for further benefits?

                      LOW GLYCEMIC & FAT /LIVING RAW
                      What is the impact plant-based diets that are raw/living and low-glycemic and low fat?

                      DETOX & EXERCISE
                      What is the impact of green juices, blends, periodic fasts, saunas, chelation, and regular exercise routines?

                      MIND/BODY CONNECTION
                      How can our lives be enhanced through meditation and spiritual support? We can expand our horizons to use more natural healing methods, but the most powerful first step is suggested by the China Study. We now have the opportunity to live the very longest in a disease-free way. Taking a first step offers a most exciting and health-liberating opportunity.


                      Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Professor of Nutritional Biochemistry at Cornell University, was raised on a Virginia dairy farm. In his early years he thus developed the strong faith that ingesting milk and meat gave everyone a stronger constitution. This belief was ingrained despite his father having died of a massive heart attack. Colin later went to veterinarian school. He pursued his graduate work at Cornell University, further studying animal nutrition. At Cornell, his assigned lab work was to search for better means of animal-protein production (making cows and sheep grow fatter faster). This tied into the underlying belief, held throughout his college years and expressed in his Ph.D. thesis, that eating more animal protein equaled better health. A subsequent career jaunt at Virginia Tech involved working in the Philippines and investigating a disturbing rise in liver cancer rates among young children. Typically this was just an adult-onset disease. The suspicion also arose that the main culprits were some local peanut and corn crops that showed high aflatoxin contents. Aflatoxin lives in molds that develop during crop storage and is a most potent of carcinogens. Lower rates of liver cancer then might logically proceed if his project worked to change agricultural growing and storage procedures plus offered malnourished Pilipino children more animal proteins to build greater immunity. In fact, Colin helped establish 110 nutritional education centers all over the Philippines for this purpose.

                      Colin, however, later was disturbed by the finding that children from the wealthiest families (those who ate more animal proteins) had the highest, not lowest, liver cancer rates! Because of his grave aflatoxin suspicions, he was piqued by an Indian research paper that outlined how an equal level of aflatoxins was fed to two groups of rats where one feasted on an animal-protein-rich diet and the other not. The first group all died because they developed fatal liver cancer, and the other not. The score was actually an outrageous 100 to 0! Dietary effects here trumped a most suspected and potent of carcinogens.

                      Since the Indian study violated established beliefs, there was natural suspicion that the Indian study was flawed or fraudulent! Might sloppy or deceiving researchers have accidentally switched the two rat groups, but what if not? Thus Colin was driven to conduct some animal experiments to resolve this hugely nagging and vital question. The results were absolutely astonishing. Other studies later corroborated his startling findings. The low-animal-protein diet inhibited cancers (despite aflatoxins being present) and the high-animal-protein diet did not. Colin also uncovered something still more earth-shaking. He could affect pre-cancerous and cancerous growths in a decisive “on/off” way and simply and again via diet changes. Raise the rats’ animal protein intake and the cancers grew. Lower the rat’s intake, and surprisingly, cancers stopped growing! Using wheat and soy or high-plant-proteins did not have this effect. These studies made him yearn to explore such remarkable finding using human research studies. Would humans have similar reactions or not? When Dr. Chen Junshi of the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine introduced Collin to a massive and unique compilation of mainland Chinese death rates and their disease correlates, the two realized they now had a vast opportunity-of-a-lifetime to map diet and illness connections on an unprecedented scale. This was the inspiration behind the China Study and how it was born.


                    2. here’s one last thing that may help you in your journey of learning and healing, Todd.

                      same thing, copy and paste it into an email, i hope it’s of help. Donald.

                      ps. unfortunately, i can see that this will not show on here the way i am pasting it as the video thumbnails will completely change the LOOK of the list i am pasting. i won’t know how it actually shows until i hit post but i already see a ton of thumbnails at the bottom and they will probably be interspersed into the body of this post. this is what i send out to people who are interested in the WFPB lifestyle.

                      maybe if you copy and paste this into an email it will revert back to the original format with captions and only links? (wishful thinking)


                      THESE FIRST 7 ARE ON NETFLIX: (1 month free trial no strings attached but you will probably want to keep it at only $9/month)

                      FORKS OVER KNIVES

                      (in depth interviews with the doctors which didn’t make it into the original video)


                      FAT, SICK AND NEARLY DEAD

                      FOOD, INC

                      THE GERSON MIRACLE

                      THE BEAUTIFUL TRUTH


                      DYING TO HAVE KNOWN


                      **Dr Greger puts out a one hour lecture each year and he’s amazing. Everybody loves him and you’ll see why, he’s funny yet teaches you a ton of information with journal article verification on a big screen behind him. This is his website, you should sign up to his 3 times a week short video emails on every topic imaginable.

                      Here are his last 5 Annual Nutrition Year-in-Review presentations.
                      I’ve watched every one numerous times.

                      HOW NOT TO DIE: The Role of Diet in Preventing, Arresting, and Reversing Our Top 15 Killers 2015-2016

                      FOOD AS MEDICINE: Preventing and Treating the Most Common Diseases with Diet 2014-2015

                      FROM TABLE TO ABLE: Combating Disabling Diseases with Food 2013-2014

                      MORE THAN AN APPLE A DAY: Combating Common Diseases 2012-2013

                      UPROOTING THE LEADING CAUSES OF DEATH 2011-2012


                      (this is the doctor who I followed to stay alive and who wrote the book, “Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease”. 24 terminal cardiac patients were sent to him. 6 couldn’t follow the diet and promptly died. the other 18 are alive and well today 35 years later)
                      Caldwell Esselstyn, MD of the famed Cleveland Clinic gives a FULL 62 minute talk from the 2003 VegSource Healthy Lifestyle Expo. Dr. Esselstyn’s ongoing 21-year study shows that you CAN reverse heart disease and save your life. Of 18 patients sent home to die by their cardiologists in 1989, every one is still alive and healthy today, and heart-disease free, even though together they had had a total of 63 cardiac events before entering his study.


                      FOOD THAT KILLS – DR KLAPPER 58 min

                      SIMPLY RAW: REVERSING DIABETES IN 30 DAYS 90 min (this is the diabetes documentary done over here around the corner in Patagonia, AZ)

                      NATHAN PRITIKIN: A CASUAL CONVERSATION WITH DR MCDOUGALL 56 min (everything pritikin said in this interview in 1982 is still valid today. he was a cardiac cripple in his 30’s until he researched and made a lifestyle change, unheard of in those days but he believed in himself. upon his eventual requested autopsy, his arteries were that of a young boy completely clear of any disease)

                      NUTRITIONFACTS.ORG – DR GREGER

                      FOOD ADDICTIONS – DR BERNARD 40 min

                      GLADIATORS WERE VEGAN – DR MCDOUGALL 6 min

                      OIL TO NUTS: THE TRUTH ABOUT FATS – JEFF NOVICK 6 min

                      WHEN FAT FREE REALLY MEANS 100% FAT – JEFF NOVICK 10 min

                      VEG SOURCE – COLLECTION OF VIDEOS

                      DR DEAN ORNISH – TED TALKS 3 min

                      BRENDA DAVIS, RD – PLANT BASED DIETS




                      DR JOHN MCDOUGALL

                      DR DEAN ORNISH




                    3. Wow, that’s quite a narrative!

                      My problem was that although I was a True Believer in lowcarb paleo, I was never able to practice it for long. A few weeks, maybe a few months, and then I would lapse. And the trouble with lapsing from that kind of a diet is that the LCHF eating actually raises insulin resistance, so that when you do start eating carbs they hit you like a sledgehammer. Some lowcarb apologists admit that LCHF raises insulin resistance but insist that it “doesn’t matter” because you shouldn’t be eating carbs anyway, and should be limiting protein.

                      My only upside has been that I’ve stayed active, though not like what you were doing, and attempted to eat high-quality lowcarb foods: grassfed meats, organic produce, minimal processed stuff.

                      At 63, I’m fat, although my weight is coming down now, but I have a long way to go. I just dropped under 240 lbs (6’1″) for the first time in a while. My BP is controlled with medication, and last January I finally let the cardiologist persuade me to take 10 mg of atorvastatin. My total cholesterol was at that time 275.

                      In August, after watching the “spudfit” guy on YouTube, I tried a two-week all-potato experiment. As it happened, during that time I had to go for follow-up blood work. My cholesterol was down to 151. I don’t know if it was the statin, the two weeks of spuds only, or both. In fact, that low cholesterol reading scared me. Between then and now, I lapsed from the WFPB program a bit and then got serious again, only about a week and a half ago. I’d like to get off that statin and see what’s really going on, but the cardiologist takes a dim view of that. From what I’ve read, some people do get large drops in cholesterol from small doses of statins, and some also get large drops from even short intervals of WFPB, so who knows?

                      I have no angina but I’m sure my cardiovascular system is anything but pristine, so I’m really hoping it’s not too late to turn this situation around. Dr. G’s grandmother’s story is an inspiration. I will definitely read Esselstyn’s book. I’ve seen a bit of him in YouTube videos but it’s time to learn more.

                      Thanks again for your perspective.

                    4. Todd: I wanted to share one of my favorite free on-line talks about weight loss. Dr. Greger covers calorie density, but not in enough detail in my opinion for someone who wants to apply it for the first time. Doug Lisle is one of the experts in the Forks Over Knives documentary, and he gives a great ‘calorie density 101’ talk officially called: How To Lose Weight Without Losing Your Mind. I have watched the following talk from Doug Lisle several times and think very highly of it. And it’s free!!! And it’s entertaining!
                      As good as Doug Lisle’s talk is, it pretty much just gives you a solid understanding of the concept, but not enough practical information in my opinion. For starting to get the practical information, I recommend a talk from Jeff Novick,Calorie Density: “How to Eat More, Weigh Less, and Live Longer,” which is no longer for sale. Argh! (I mention it just in case you can get your hands on a copy.) Happily, there is a very good second best source for that information: an article that Jeff wrote that you can get here:
                      Be sure to pay attention to the charts.
                      Chef AJ tells people who want to lose weight to eat “left of the red line”, where I believe the red line is on a diagram of hers representing is 700 calories per pound. And “left of the red line” is all the whole plant foods which are below 700 calories per pound. The above article from Jeff Novick gives you a good sense of which foods are “left of the red line” by food category. But if you want to look up the calorie density of specific foods, you can find many foods on the following site: Most foods on that site have the option of choose an ‘ounce’ as a size. Then you can multiply by 16 to get the calories per pound.
                      It would be perfectly respectable if you are one of those people who are just not interested in the theory. You just want to dive right in and want straight how-to information. If you would rather not think about any of that (or start with the theory and then move onto this step), I have one more suggestion that Dr. Greger also recommends in his book, How Not To Die. Consider going through the free program from PCRM (Physician’s Committee For Responsible Medicine) called 21 Day Kickstart. The program will “hold your hand” for 21 days, including meal plans, recipes, videos, inspirational messages, and a forum (moderated by a very respected RD) where you can ask questions.
                      (Click the green “Register Now” button.)
                      At the end of the program, you will have a very good practical knowledge about how to eat with healthy and “low” (normal for most people) calorie density.
                      Another recommendation that Dr. Greger and I share is to get Jeff Novick’s Fast Food videos for tasty, affordable, fast and healthy calorie density recipes. Also, on-line and free is a YouTube series of recipes/cooking shows called something like Chef AJ and The Dietician. I know that Chef AJ will not steer you wrong in terms of weight loss and providing accurate nutrition information.
                      You didn’t ask for this information and I hope it is not presumptuous of me to send it. I just thought you might appreciate it.

                    5. @Thea: It’s not presumptuous at all. Thank you for the suggestions. I’m somewhat aware of Novick and Lisle from the McDougall site, but I haven’t really looked at what they have to say in any detail. Being new to WFPB, I’m still at the stage of trying to drink from the firehose.

      1. In April of 2014 my optometrist told me that I had early stage cataracts. I began taking several Doctor Mercola ( products including “Eye Support” and Astaxanthin. I recently purchased UVEX Skyper Blue Light Blocking Computer Glasses from Everything seems fine now – at least I still do not need surgery and my vision is clear. It seems that a rush to surgery could be a bad decision.

  5. I am reading the paper cited by Dr. Greger in this video (Barnard et al, Nutrition and cancer 55(1),28-34) but I cannot find the Fig 3 that he refers to which shows the different effects of exercise vs diet. Is it in another paper?

  6. How much could be cancer could be prevented with life long low animal protein, low fat diets? I think the historical statistics from Japan are illuminating:

    Age-Adjusted Cancer Mortality – U.S. vs. Japan – 1955 (Per 100,000 persons/year)
    Males Females
    US Japan US Japan
    Lung 92 16 11 7
    Pancreas 20 7 11 4
    Colon 28 6 31 6
    Bladder 11 3 4 2
    Breast – – 26 2
    Ovary – – 25 3
    Prostate 15 2 – –
    Lymphomas 14 5 8 2
    Leukemias 13 3 9 2

    From Comparative epidemiology of cancer between the United States and Japan. A second look

    Since then, mortality for most cancers in the US have stayed about the same, falling in recent years for lung and breast thanks to less smoking and better breast cancer treatment. Meanwhile Japanese rates have inexorably climbed nearer US levels with adoption of Western diets.

  7. I just donated whole blood at a local blood drive today. After almost two years eating mostly whole food plant based (vegan) I doubt they know just how powerful my O negative blood is.

    1. Right on MikeOnRaw! It’s powerful just by virtue of the fact that it’s Rh negative. About 40 years ago when I was just starting out in healthcare I had a job as a phlebotomist in a blood bank where people could get paid for a pint of blood. The place was in the middle of times square in NYC and all the drug addicts and down and out homeless people would come give their blood for $6. If you had Rh negative blood you got $8 because it was rare and in high demand.
      That was obviously well before the AIDS epidemic. I’m sure those places were shut down once AIDS came on the scene.

  8. OK, I read a lot of articles talking about plant foods preventing cancer and sometimes the articles allude to that plant foods can kill cancer cells in petri dish such as Dr Greger video above. So is there any statistics to show what is the percentage of success? I don’t need 100% but any higher success rate than chemo is good enough because there is no side effect. So let say tomorrow I will be hit with cancer, should I not do chemo and simply eat healthy and load up with anti oxidant foods and my cancer will go away? What is the success rate using this method?

    I do believe that plant foods will prevent cancer and that’s why I eat it but I am not sure what to do if I get hit with cancer. If I do chemo, I will of course still load up with healthy foods instead of eating ice cream and cookie from the hospital but should I forfeit chemo so that my immune system won’t be damaged? I need some data to convince myself.

    1. This is a very complicated subject and I understand that chemotherapy and radiation therapy are effective in treating some cancers. Less so in others. Where not curative, they can also be used for palliation of symptoms and improving quality of life. There is no single answer which applies in all situations because cancer is not a single disease – there are more than 100 different types..

    2. {{I do believe that plant foods will prevent cancer and that’s why I eat it but I am not sure what to do if I get hit with cancer. }}

      first of all, if you eat a NO added oil WFPBD i don’t think you will ever develop cancer. i firmly believe disease states occur when the diet goes over 10% fat, possibly 8% from something i’ve recently read.

      i don’t think that plant foods prevent cancer but that YOUR IMMUNE system kills the cancer.

      i believe removing animal products which HINDER or DIMINISH your IMMUNE SYSTEM is the reason that WFPBD’s succeed so well in allowing your body to eliminate the cancer.

      am i making sense here? i keep reading this over and over and it just doesn’t sound right but i know what i’m trying to say, lol.

      also, visit

      he had stage 3 colon cancer, refused chemo and radiation opting for a plant based diet and has thrived.

      i have no problem removing the main tumor burden with surgery but then the BODY has to beat the cancer thru a NO OIL, WFPBD. not immune busting chemo or radiation.


  9. I have researched extensively on the ability of apricot kernals to inhibit cancer cell growth and to destroy cancer cells. Apricot kernals are a WHOLE PLANT FOOD source. I take around 7 per day. I know of some people who take as many as 20 to 60 per day with no ill effects. The Hunza people in northern Pakistan are known for their longevity and rarely have any cancer or heart disease. Investigative scientist attribute part of their great health to eating apricot kernals. Apricots are a huge food crop for the Hunza people and they have been eating apricot kernals for hundreds of years. If anyone wants to contest this I will gladly link a YouTube video that gives you 9 scientific studies that show that apricot kernals inhibit the growth of cancer cells.

    1. John. I don’t know why you keep plugging this idea and always fail to mention that real scientific studies show that this “cure” does not work and is actually dangerous.

      Beer also inhibits the growth of cancer cells. That doesn’t prove that beer cures cancer – it would be nice if it did but it doesn’t.

      1. Hi Tom,
        We previously discussed this issue. I appreciate you and Thea for leading today’s discussion in a very positive way and dealing with the fat controversy in a balanced manner. The above comment, was not made by me, John S, of the previous discussion on cancer. This is a different person named John.
        I appreciate the efforts you make to help people realize ways to be healthy. Although we disagree sometimes, we can all learn about different perspectives.

        John S

    1. that’s my doctor at 2:06, dr crawford of oracle, az.

      this documentary is supposed to premiere in tucson within the next few weeks.

      my story and before/after brain images of reversal of progressive, inoperable brain disease with a WFPBD is going to be in his upcoming book. :o)


  10. i think this was a duplicate of another video, except here we saw Dr. Greger inserted periodically. I actually preferred the other one-showing him sort of interrupts the flow without much added benefit. Just sayin.

  11. I am a follower and preacher of the plant based diet. But I wonder how people that do not know anything about plant based diet and just have a balanced diet, and do enjoy their cigarettes and wine can pass the 100years threshold…
    For example the Italian Village of Acciaroli has a population of only 2,000, yet the village boasts some 300 elders who have reached the age of 100 — and about 20 percent of those centenarians have reached 110:

    University of California in San Diego launched a study, together with La Sapienza University in Rome to understand their secret of longevity.

    I guess a no-stress life style plays a major role. And perhaps when choosing your food becomes a stressful thing, it may cancel the befits of the healthy food itself.

    1. cholesterol plays a big factor not only in heart disease and stroke but in cancer but not many know the connection.

      i think it was dr mcdougal (maybe greger) who posed the question of why deep in russia on the mountaintop you would find old men and women who smoked every day of their lives yet were over a hundred years old.

      we all remember the old adage that nobody with a cholesterol level under 150 gets a heart attack, right?

      well guess what, nobody with a cholesterol level under 150 gets cancer either.

      they must eat enough PBWF’s to keep their cholesterols below that threshold along with exercise to get those foods.

      i remember a group of african men who in the evening would go into a small hut and smoke the nastiest tobacco on earth for hours breathing in all of the others’ tobacco smoke too. none of them got cancer.

      the reason? their diet consisted solely of 12 varieties of sweet potato.

      i guarantee their cholesterol is probably like mine, 101, hence, no cancer.

      probably emphysema up the wazoo but no cancer.

      you want your chol well under 150 and your LDL’s under 70, at least AFTER a stroke or heart attack that’s when they finally tell you what the actual levels SHOULD be at..

      after 5.5 years NO OIL WFPBD, mine are:

      chol 101
      trig 53
      LDL 37
      vldl 11
      hdl 53


    2. Daniele Sindaco: I’m not an expert, but I imagine that there are a large number of variables in play. Aside from smoking, what does their diet really look like? What are their genes? What social connections to they have day to day? What other pollutants are they exposed to? Are their cigarettes made up of the same toxic chemical combination that is found in places like America? How much do they exercise? Etc.
      My understanding is: If someone has a large numbers of low risk factors and only one high risk factor for diseases, it’s possible that the one single high risk factor may not actually lead to a bad outcome.

  12. Scientific data – as results from studies – is of course open to interpretation and even with considerable expertise conclusions. Yet there are some data where most experts agree: the study referred to (Song et al.) shows a very modest and barely significant changes in risk for different amounts of protein – and the most extreme changes in overall mortality were only found with extreme dietary changes (processed meat for plant protein).

    The risk of smoking are considerably higher – but more importantly: protein – whether from animal or plant sources – are a normal part of our diet, indeed, we need protein to survive. In contrast, smoking is neither essential to life nor to our health.

    Using an inappropriate (based on risk estimates) comparison between animal protein intake carries the risk of reducing the perceived risk of smoking. Some sources of animal protein – eg dairy – are associated with beneficial effects on health – suggesting to avoid them thus will have a detrimental effect on health. No type of smoking has any beneficial effect on health. Avoiding animal protein requires for many people careful planning to ensure that health is maintained – stopping smoking has no potentially adverse effect on health.

    Your insinuation that my statement is in any way comparable with a PR campaign on second hand smoking is rather ill-informed, it rather appears to ignore the fact that public health messages must be carefully worded to avoid ‘advice fatigue’. I’m happy to discuss this with you of course.

  13. How do we know from these studies that plant based diets aren’t simply creating more cancer to be killed, accounting for the more cancer being killed?

      1. It actually is if other factors are taken into consideration, i.e. lifestyle, socio-economic class etc. In the Western world, a plant based diet is often associated with better education and higher status as it is for most people a very conscious decision – and these are all factors that are associated with a reduce risk for cancer. The EPIC Oxford study for example found the incidence for colorectal cancer to be higher among vegetarians than meat eaters (doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.26736M).

        The evidence is unfortunately a bit more complicated, especially because ‘plant’ and ‘animal’ are very crude descriptions. Animal protein is anything from processed meat via fish (a lot of data shows beneficial effects) to dairy (again – a lot of data shows beneficial effects). The same applies to plant based diets – this can be vegetable based but also includes chips (or fries) and ketchup.

      2. In the study referred to by Gunter Kuhnle below, the authors observed
        “The overall cancer incidence rates of both the vegetarians and the nonvegetarians in this study are low compared with national rates. Within the study, the incidence of all cancers combined was lower among vegetarians than among meat eaters, but the incidence of colorectal cancer was higher in vegetarians than in meat eaters.”

        They also commented:
        “The 2007 report from the World Cancer Research Fund, American Institute for Cancer Research, concluded that the evidence that high intakes of red and processed meat cause colorectal cancer is convincing, but that there was no convincing evidence that high intakes of red or processed meat were causally associated with any other type of cancer (15). A significant positive association between red meat consumption and the risk of colorectal cancer has also been observed in a subsequent large prospective study (16), as well as in the whole EPIC-Europe cohort (17). In previous prospective studies of vegetarians, a lower risk of colon cancer (rectal cancer was not reported) was observed among vegetarians compared with nonvegetarians in the Adventist Health Study (1), but there was no significant difference in the incidence of colorectal cancer between vegetarians and nonvegetarians in the Oxford Vegetarian Study (2), and no difference in mortality from colorectal cancer between vegetarians and nonvegetarians was observed in the collaborative analysis of 5 prospective studies (4). Our observation that the incidence of colorectal cancer is higher among vegetarians than among meat eaters in the EPIC-Oxford study is surprising; this difference might be partly due to chance and speculatively might be related to other dietary differences between the groups.”

        1. I agree, Tom. Also, there is a difference between a “vegetarian” diet, which may include some animal products, such as dairy and eggs, as well as processed foods, and a whole-food, plant-based diet.

        2. These findings support my statement that there is not much difference between vegetarian and non-vegetarian diets per se when other factors are taken into consideration. When the differences observed are simply due to chance (which they probably are – as the authors state), the claim by Mr Greger (whose apology I’m still awaiting) is simply wrong.

          1. In reading through the study that was available at the link a couple of items made me question the basic conclusion of this study. First, they segregated the participants into four groups based upon their diets. They clearly had a group that was labeled as vegan as opposed to vegetarian. From that point on they no longer mentioned the vegans, only the vegetarians. Secondly, they also commented repeatedly on the amount of dairy products consumed by the vegetarians. One sentence mentioned that the vegetarians consumed more dairy than the non-vegetarians. It would be nice to know the cancer rates of the vegans in the group as that is the definition of people consuming a Whole Food Plant Based diet and what Dr. Greger refers to when analyzing studies in regard to animal product consumption. Although it is disheartening to see the cancer rates so high in vegetarians it does not contradict what I have read in “How Not To Die” as one can see disease rates increase with the varying amounts of animal protein consumed.

            1. There are unfortunately not enough data to do such a comparison. All data I’m aware of are rather limited and especially with people following a vegan diet there is the risk of confounding (vegans tend to be different from omnivores in more respects than just diet, at least in the UK).

              You might find this also interesting (, but again vegan and vegetarian diets are not separated.

              The study presented in the video uses a very different approach, but still has a fairly small effect size (especially considering the methods used). In combination with the other data, I’m somewhat sceptical. If this puts me in the same category as those promoting smoking in the eyes of Mr Greger and his supporters – well, it says more about them then me.

          2. Thanks for your response. However, the authors state that the difference “might” be due to chance not that it is “probably” due to chance. In any case, they are referring to the higher reported rate of colorectal cancer in vegetarians not the lower incidence of total cancer in vegetarians compared to non-vegetarians.
            Also the statement by Dr Greger in the video are based on the results of a number of studies You have not presented any evidence that they are mistaken. Further, I am at a loss to understand why you think that Dr Greger should apologise for putting into words what so many people must have thought when they saw your letter. I do not think that I am exaggerating when I say that many people would have found the argument set out in your letter to be – to put it bluntly – ludicrous.

            1. Tom – if you read the study, and others in nutritional epidemiology, it should become apparent that it is quite likely that such effects are due to chance.

              And about Mr Greger: if he (or indeed you) would have taken the time to read my comment (which you haven’t done – you wouldn’t refer to it as ‘letter’ if you had), you would have understood my objective. But scoring cheap points appears to be more important than being accurate – and if there is already lack of accuracy here, what does this tell us about other information published?

  14. GREAT video. Thanks Dr Greger. I went to the AICR website.
    Very disappointed to see they do not mention diet anywhere
    Introduction they mention diet but 3 things to reduce Breast Cancer are
    1) maintain healthy weight 2) Be physically fit 3) Do not drink alcohol (or minimum if you do)

    Not sure why the did not include diet on there, (short attention span humans like things in 3?)

        1. Overall, fruit and vegetable intake seem to reduce the risk for cancer, although the link is weaker than most people think and might only due to the higher intake of fibre and the replacement of other foods. The effect of phytochemicals is even more questionable.

          For breast cancer, there is no strong effect. The big fat ‘controversy’ was resolved and it could be shown that fat doesn’t have an impact on BRCA risk (e.g. here: Data for soy didn’t show effects (at least not for the amount consumed in most Western countries).

    1. Thanks – an interesting read.The question of course is what foods milk products are consumed in place of. Milk products may well be relatively healthy compared to certain other foods or when added to a nutritionally deficient diet. It does not mean that they would necessarily benefit everyone. This is why it doesn’t convince to rush out and add milk products to my WFPB diet.

      1. If I were going to risk any dairy consumption, it would be in the form of either small amounts of high-quality butter or fermented stuff such as kefir. But at the moment I see no compelling reason to revert to either one. I just think it’s a good idea to stay aware of what’s being talked about outside the vegan echo chamber, especially after having spent 15+ years in the lowcarb/paleo echo chamber. I’m only too painfully aware of the cost of confirmation bias.

        1. I can’t disagree with you on any those points. It is certainly a good thing to have our beliefs challenged on a regular basis.

  15. This was golden, I had to laugh at the end! Thanks Dr. Greger and team for this video, I will pass it on to friends and family!

  16. Hi, I’m a breast cancer survivor. I had no symptoms when I was diagnosed. I stopped all dairy and animal protein. I later had the ALCAT blood test run and it revealed that I have food sensitivities to so many healthy foods such as broccoli, kale, garlic, quinoa, celery, carrots, lemons, …. and many more. I loved eating all these foods on my plant based diet, now I struggle with what to eat every day. My oncologist doesn’t think the ALCAT is valid. What are your thoughts on the ALCAT?. (THank you!!)

    1. Thanks for your comment Trudy.

      I think you have taken a great step by eliminating dairy & animal protein.

      Whilst I am not an expert on this topic, as per the Allergy Society of South Africa, Position Statement: ALCAT and IgG Allergy & Intolerance Tests (see here):

      “We are constantly consulted by colleagues, health funders and practitioners about the reliability and appropriateness of the ALCAT and IgG food allergy tests for patients with suspected allergies and other disorders. We would like to provide the following information to the readership of the journal and to the public.

      The manufacturers and suppliers of ALCAT and the IgG test claim that the tests have diagnostic value in identifying substances responsible for allergic and intolerance reactions. These tests are being marketed directly to the public and health professionals, claiming to be more effective than traditional skin prick tests or serum specific IgE tests, particularly for delayed allergic reactions. The manufacturers of the ALCAT test argue that orthodox allergy practice does not recognize delayed allergic reactions, when in fact these reactions are universally acknowledged to play a role in up to 30% of the spectrum of allergic reactions!

      To date neither ALCAT nor IgG has been shown to have any predictive value in the diagnosis of allergy or intolerances.”

      Therefore I’d be inclined to agree with your oncologist.

      Hope this answer helps.

    2. i don’t have any ideas about the ALCAT test but have some other ideas for you.

      in between my inoperable diagnosis and recovery (read down below) i had a severe black mold exposure along with a lyme disease diagnosis. you just wouldn’t believe the last 6-7 years of hell i’ve gone thru until i beat it ALL!

      my GI was a terrible mess. one day i seemed to tolerate a food and then the next day i didn’t and i couldn’t make any sense of it. it was all due to leaky gut and i think this may be your problem too, especially if you recently changed your diet from the SAD to a WFPBD. make sure that you DO NOT ADD ANY OILS OR OVERT FAT AND FATTY FOODS and eat very clean with absolutely NO processed foods.

      eat as much raw fruits and vegetables as you can handle leaving out the ones which bother you right now. as time goes on, then reintroduce them one at a time. i would bet that as your body adjusts to a No Oil WFPBD and your leaky gut gets tighter, you will not be ‘allergic’ to those natural foods anymore. let us know how things go for you.

      see my comment above to Andor and my average daily diet that i posted for him.

      take care, it will all get better once your GI system has a chance to heal itself and tighten up.


  17. I really like this video of how not to die from cancer. It sounds so simple and easy. But yet its this simplicity that maybe makes people take eating properly for granted. I can imagine people saying let me enjoy the food that i want to eat now. And when i end up with CA, then ill do whats prescribed here. Or am i completely misunderstanding the message in this video?

    1. Thanks for your comment Nanette.

      I think you do have a point. However, we would all have to agree that prevention is better than treatment & although a plant based diet may work in the future if one is faced with such problems, they should know that one can never guarantee 100% success rate in treatment for cancer.

      Hope this answer helps.

  18. What is the incidence of cancer among vegans? Dropping blood in vitro is interesting, but would be better to know if vegans get less cancer.

    1. beans beans beans rice pasta oatmeal. my daily diet:

      bkfst: 2 C Oatmeal, blueberries, raisins, 4 TBS ground flaxseed.

      snack: bowl of mixed fruit, canteloupe, grapes, apples, bananas, orange… whatever’s on sale.

      lunch: cut up sweet potato, can of black beans, chopped onions, 1/2 can green beans, can mushrooms, corn on cob…all room temp.

      snack: 1/2 loaf multi grain bread from local german bakery no oil, salt or sugar.

      dinner: cup rice, can bb, co, 1/2 can corn, can mushrooms, minced garlic all at room temp.

      another snack somewhere in between all of this: green smoothie.

      i would bet you ten bucks that you are over your ideal weight as we are all so used to seeing fat, chubby, stocky americans as ‘normal’.

      once you stabilize on this diet you will be at your ideal weight:

      Weight Of Indigineous Peoples:



  19. Hello All, I was diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer August 2015. Had a radical surgery and frontline chemotherapy. The day my chemo ended I began since Jan. 2016 a very strict WFPB diet to try to save my life. At the end of Chemo I was declared cancer free. I eat lots of green veggies,fruits, intact whole grains, beans garlic etc. NO OIL. I need to put on weight too unfortunately, but have trouble eat a lot at once so struggle each day to take in enough calories to put on weight as I don’t want to just mack out on nuts. I try to eat a balanced diet. I was really hedging my bets on this diet. I exercise daily by walking and doing some yoga and light weights, but don’t want to over exercise as Ive been told not to create too much added stress while I heal. While on Chemo I defied the rules and juiced veggies and drank green smoothies daily,but I did eat some eggs during that time. I gave up dairy and meat first. I had a hard time digesting beans but can tolerate them better if I don’t overeat on them at once. Now I am 8 month out on a WFPB diet and think I may have a reoccurance starting. I have been so careful. How not to Die book has been one of my bibles. I am so dissapointed right now. I made some mistakes though. I was taking bioidentical hormones and should have quit those right after diagnosis but didn’t get the message till lately. So I quit that. I just had a complete physical with lab tests for everything. It says I am healthy as a horse, people tell me I look glowing healthy and are amazed at what Ive been through. So when my blood test CA 125 for cancer marker shot up lately, and the retest said it has stayed up but did not go much higher I am devastated. I am not quitting this diet, but wonder why the science isn’t working for me? Why my body with all that I am doing for it, including growing my greens in my organic garden aren’t fighting for me? I still have hope but I may have to do more standard medical treatment again for another shot at keeping it away. Thoughts anyone or experiences that may help me/

    1. Judith Withers: I’m not a medical professional and thus cannot address that part of your post. I just wanted to congratulate you on the changes you have made so far. You have done an amazing job. You are doing everything you can think of to beat this. How many people can say as much?
      Here are my thoughts on the question of, why isn’t it working for me? I often tell people that it is easier to prevent a problem than to reverse it. When studies talk about reversing say cancer, it is talking about chances/percentages, not guarantees. If an intervention (like say a healthy diet) were to work for say 9 out of 10 people, that’s amazing and awesome and wow oh wow. It is worth educating people on about the intervention and shouting to the skies. But the intervention is still not a guarantee. And if you are that 10th person it doesn’t work for, it’s a serious let down and your life still has a serious problem.
      All you can do is all you can do. I think it is great you are quitting those hormones. You might try to keep an eye out for additional changes along the same lines that you could make. I’m guessing you are already using the information from How Not To Die and this website to tweak your diet to be sure to include cancer fighting foods? You stay away from oils and other processed foods? That all seems pretty darn good to me.
      As for gaining weight, the trick is to focus on calorie dense foods, but hopefully not highly processed foods. I have some ideas, but I don’t know if these ideas are appropriate for a cancer patient or not. The ideas are: dried fruits (more calorie dense than fresh), tofu and tempeh, nuts and seeds, shift more towards eat more legumes and intact grains and less of the low-calorie-density foods like the veggies. (Though eating veggies is important too, so have to think about that trade off.) Maybe work with a knowledgeable plant based RD who could help?
      I don’t know if this is in your budget or not, but I thought I would also mention that Dr Klaper is a well respected plant based doctor and he does phone consultations. You might want to look into that.
      Best of luck to you. Keep posting and asking questions if you want. There are others who might chime in and have additional ideas for you.

    2. Hi Judith,
      In addition to the medical treatment you are already doing, have you considered natural therapies/alternative medicine (e.g. kinesiology, pranic healing)..
      Best of luck !

  20. A family relative is going through some medical changes. She went to get a gene test done as well as MRI’s, ultrasounds and a cat scan and was told that she has an over 90% chance of cancer in the breast, pancreas and ovaries (ordered by highest risk) so she is meeting with a surgeon to talk about the removal of her breasts and ovaries to help decrease the chances (she is 49). In the past she has had gallbladder and kidney stones. She has higher cholesterol as well and has recently gained over 40 pounds (due to a thyroid issue) so the Doctor recommended a better diet. I am vegan and suggested plant based for her which she agreed. Within one week she went vegan, quit smoking and quit drinking. A few days ago (about two weeks after the change) she went to the ER due to a heart arrhythmia, her pulse was at 198 bpm. I am wondering what caused that and if it is anyway in relation to what has been happening to her or because her body is trying to deal with the drastic changes. I want to help her through this but don’t want to add stress of misinformation.
    Does anyone have any advise or insight as to what is happening or any suggestions to help! I would appreciate it!
    Thank you – Bella

  21. What could be helpful for NSCLC brain metastases in an EGFR positive 40 years old never smoker? Read about citrus extracts and honokiol (magnolia bark) and milk thistle seed extract.

    1. from what i’ve heard Jo, dr mcdougall is still taking patients and has cured thousands of cancer patients non invasively.

      THAT would be the first thing on my agenda, not citrus or other extracts. get treatment straight from the leader in the field with a track record.

      i spent nearly 2 years bi monthly traveling back and forth to see a Lyme Literate MD from way east of tucson to san diego and wouldn’t hesitate to make a trip further north in cali to see him if i had cancer. don’t mess around on message boards or barks, thistles and extracts, this is no joke.

      make an appointment tomorrow, seriously.

      the only other place i would suggest (and almost went to) was the dr vickers gerson clinic in baja mx.

      they aren’t’ affiliated with the ‘official’ gerson clinic because they do many more additional treatments not approved by charlotte gerson and her organization. they throw everything at you that you can imagine.

      do one of these things if not both as you really don’t have much time left.


    Forks Over Knives


    So what are the foods that we should eat to fight (or starve) cancer? Dr. Li’s research foundation is continuously studying these foods, but the vast majority of his recommended foods are fruits and vegetables including blueberries, strawberries, apples, oranges, peaches, onions, tomatoes, cauliflower, carrots, sweet potatoes, kale, broccoli, grapes, and spinach; grains and seeds including brown rice, oats, and whole grains; and beans and legumes including chick peas and lentils.

  23. Long live human herbivore. Probably the same results will occur if they do the same experiment on other herbivore animals (cows, sheep or horses) if you feed them the standard American diet of cooked/burnt meat, with french fries and coke.

    1. this happens to rabbits put on an animal based, carnivore diet very fast.

      they develop and die of cardiovascular disease in weeks where it takes us decades to show.

      we all hear of highschool kids dying on the basketball floor or football field but it’s rare.

      then we get into our 30’s and it becomes more regular to hear that joe or john dropped dead of a heart attack.

      then as we age further we hear more and more stories like this but we ignore them because it happened to ‘someone else’.

      every single autopsied 10 year old has fatty streaks in their heart vessels. cardiovascular disease, period.

      we are just a little more resilient than rabbits and takes us decades to show whereas rabbits will develop cardiovascular disease and die sometimes within weeks.

      i wish i had links to these studies i’ve read but i gotta run and can’t search right now.
      maybe someone else can and post the info.

      it’s amazing how fast they develop CV disease and die when their diet is changed.

      i also remember a study on rats? placed on terrible diets with diseased arteries and rats on healthy diets with clear arteries.

      when diseased rats have healthy vessels transplanted into them, those vessels get diseased quickly.

      when healthy rats have diseased vessels transplanted into them, those diseased vessels clear up quickly.


      1. Yes, it’s actually very easy and inexpensive. You can do the experiment on horses, cows sheep & other herbivores and feed them standard american diet (I’m sure if we can eat burnt meat, they can to). And see if they develop higher rates of heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, etc… like we humans. And then do the same thing with Chimps, bears and dogs (omnivores) and see if they too develop heart heart attacks, cancer, diabetes, etc. or not. If the herbivore group do and the omnivore group don’t then that would be yet another proof that we are herbivore.

    1. Joyce Raftery: has a series of videos on the topic of IGF-1. As I understand it, the issue is not that these products contain IGF-1, but that they start a process in our bodies which causes our bodies to produce too much IGF-1 to be healthy. The aspect of the food that causes this reaction is the animal protein. This means that any form of dairy, meat and egg whites is going to cause this problem. Make sense?

    2. Thanks for your question Joyce.

      As per Dr McDougall’s quote (see here):

      “In addition to calories and nutrients to support growth, cow’s milk increases hormones that directly stimulate the growth of the calf. The most powerful of these hormones is called insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1). When cow’s milk is fed to people, IGF-1 levels also increase. Studies funded by the dairy industry show a 10% increase in IGF-1 levels in adolescent girls from one pint daily and the same 10% increase for postmenopausal women from 3 servings per day of nonfat milk or 1% milk.4,5 This rise in IGF-1 level is an important reason for the “bone-building” effects of cow’s milk.

      IGF-1 promotes undesirable growth too—like cancer growth and accelerated aging. IGF-1 is one of the most powerful promoters of cancer growth ever discovered for cancers of the breast, prostate, lung, and colon.6 Overstimulation of growth by IGF-1 leads to premature aging too—and reducing IGF-1 levels is “anti-aging.”

      However, this data is most likely only applicable to cows milk, I tried but found no studies on goat milk, but given the similar protein content, one could hypothesise a similar reaction.

      Hope this answer helps.

  24. Can someone give me a information about this article: Antioxidant induces DNA damage, cell death and mutagenicity in human lung and skin normal cells. They are talking about the harmful effects of green tea in normal cells. Does this paper refers to suplementation or the daily basis of green tea consumption? thanks..

    1. Hi Ricardo- I think what this study says is that when you take a particular chemical out of green tea and drip it directly onto cells, it causes damage. Luckily, that isn’t what happens when we drink tea! To me, this article confirms something we already know–taking supplements of antioxidants is not at all the same as eating foods rich in antioxidants. Eating antioxidant rich foods has been demonstrated to do all sorts of great things for us, including prevent cancer. Taking supplements (e.g. Vitamin E and beta carotene) don’t help and may even cause problem. Keep enjoying that green tea fresh brewed and steer away from green tea supplements. Also check out the many other videos on antioxidants on this site. Thanks for the interesting questions!

  25. Visit, a site of Hallelujah Acres, which has touted a plant based diet to prevent or heal from cancer for many years. It works for many.

  26. Thank you!! It has impressed me so much I’m even trying to translate it to my language (of course I’m gonna give you credits!) but I can’t undrestand some of the words.. May I ask you to add subtitles? It would be a lot easier for me. Thanks and lots of support!!

  27. Hello Dr. Greger & Team, hello NF community. I need your help.

    My 70 year old mother was recently diagnosed with breast cancer. She was shocked because she was always very positive that she would not get cancer. She is a very active person and you would not guess her age correctly if you see her. :)

    After all the routine checks her doctor made a biopsy and found out that it is an invasive carcinoma. They operated very quickly and removed 3 small tumors. Operation went by quickly and she is also recovering very well from the operation. Just minor pain and she should not lift heavy things.
    Now the doctor recommends chemotherapy and radiation. Furthermore she has a few friends, some doctors as well, who also had cancer and also recommend she should do chemotherapy and radiation. It’s a problem. I gave her several books to read, Overdiagnosed, China-Study, Whole, and several NF videos. She only speaks german and very little english so i can not give her the actual studies to read. I also started her on a WFPB diet with focus on cancer fighting food.
    I am afraid that all the talk about chemotherapy and radiation from her friends and doctors won’t let her make an objective decision.
    I will go with her to her next meeting with her doctor and try to find out if her doctor is open to a WFPB approach.

    It would be great if you can point me to studies that show that chemotherapy and radiation does more harm than good and that a WFPB diet with meditation and exercise is at the very last as effective in stopping cancer growth and spread.

    Thanks a lot for all your help.

  28. Does IGF-1 remain in fermented milk, specifically in kefir? I saw a study once showing a reduction of up to 40% but it wasn’t convincing to me. This would be important for those (vegetarians) with cancer who also love their homemade kefir (from local organic raw milk) and all the probiotic benefits of this ancient food but don’t want to feed tumor growth. Any insights Dr Greger please?

    1. Thanks for your question Derrick.

      Although I found no study particularly related to this type of cancer, Registered Dietitian Tejal Parekh wrote a great article about how a plant based diet can help someone with mesothelioma (see here).

      American Cancer Society also focuses its diet recommendations for patient on inclusion of plant based foods and decreasing animals foods (see here).

      And on NF, Dr Greger has countless videos on cancer but I think if I had to choose one, it would be this one as it summarises all the evidence very well (see here).

      Hope this answer helps.

  29. I was wondering if there is any truth (evidence based studies) behind the claims of amygdalin from apricot pits as a cancer fighting compound.

  30. My husband & I started transitioning to a wfpb diet in Jan of last year. We follow the daily dozen pretty faithfully and feel wonderful. Last month my husband was diagnosed with squamous cell (hpv) of the tonsil after having had a tonsillectomy on a inflamed tonsil. He still has microscopic cells on his tongue & in his throat along with cells also discovered in the 2 lymphs in the neck. We have been given very good odds for a full cure at about 85%. Monday he will begin treatment with chemotherapy (cisplatnin) and radiation. We are eating super healthy with tons of fresh fruit and veggies, amla, berries, turmeric, sweet potatoes, whole grains, kale, broccoli, etc. and walk over 5 miles daily. I’m specifically looking for advice as to what else I should be feeding him for his condition. Any help would be so greatly appreciated.

    1. Maria: Congratulations on the progress you and you husband have made. I’m sorry to hear about your husband’s diagnosis. While, I’m not an expert, My recommendation would be to review the chapters in Dr. Greger’s book concerning cancer. You could pick out all the tips that generally help with fighting cancer. In other words, I know that you are already eating a fantastic diet that beats the vast majority of people. But maybe you could find little ways to tweak your diet to be especially helpful in fighting cancer, along with the standard treatment you are doing. I would also recommend doing a search on this site for “cancer” and just watching all those videos. Might take a while…
      Finally, while I don’t know if it would make sense, there is one video that talks about throat cancer and I think it was strawberry powder???, something that was used to stop or reverse it for some people. Your husband might have a different type of cancer than the one in that video, but it wouldn’t hurt to try to follow the steps of that study??? Something to look into?

      1. Thea, thank you. I have watched most of the cancer videos, but had a hard time finding something more specific to my husbands particular cancer. I’ve read the book and taken notes, and we are working hard at getting everything into his diet.
        I remember the strawberry video on cancer, I do believe it was for esophageal cancer. I will have to take a look at it again though to be sure.
        Thank you for taking the time to reply to my query. I truly appreciate it.

    2. Hi Maria, I echo Thea’s sentiments regarding your husband’s diagnosis and commend you for not feeling discouraged and giving up on your healthy eating plan. If you are eating a WFPB diet and following the daily dozen you are already ahead of most people in your same predicament.

      In addition to what you are doing nutritionally I would recommend this book

      It’s written by a naturopathic doctor who herself beat cancer (I think twice). It’s a well written guide to all the things one needs to know to fight cancer whether you are using natural methods, conventional methods or a combination. She worked for several years at Cancer Treatment Centers of America and offers what I think is quite comprehensive coverage of the topic.

      1. Payoung, thank you for taking the time to reply to my question. It means a lot to us.
        I would say that we follow the wfpb diet about 98% of the time, so yes very faithful. My husband really is in perfect health, except for the cancer.
        I will take a look at the book and perhaps put in a order. Thanks so much for the recommendation.

  31. Here are my comments on what I do to fight cancer. I’m on a continual search. Dr. Greger’s website and book has a lot of things you can do.

    See the webinar link by Dr. McDougall on cancer. Go to the bottom and read all the required reading before you listen to the webinar.

    One of the them is entitled, “A Healthy Diet will slow and/or stop most cancers. Why not?” Read all these and the associated research paper.

    After reading all of this along with Dr. Greger’s articles, I’ve taken the approach to try and slow the cancer growth as much as I can by diet, and try to give my body’s immune system enough time to recover from the chemo. This can take a long time as the chemo plays much havoc on your immune system. Hopefully, you can slow the cancer down for long enough time to allow your immune system to recover and maybe begin fighting the cancer itself. Most cancers may grow in our bodies for 10 or 20 years before they are discovered so it’s gonna take a little effort to get it stopped and reversed, but it has been done before, There are success stories on Dr. McDougall’s website so don’t give up. Even if all you can accomplish is slowing it down to give you a few more extra years this would be worth it which would also give your doctors more time to come up with a cure.

    I follow Dr. Esselstyn’s diet to the letter like I’m one of his heart patients eating lots of leafy green vegetables several times a day, but I also learned from Dr. McDougall’s website that you have to make starchy vegetables(i.e. sweet potatoes, rice, quinoa, legumes & lentils) as your main source of calories and then surround them with lots of green, and other colored vegetables and lots of fruits that Dr. Greger’s articles have been shown to fight cancer. I take Vitamin B-12 and Vitamin D, and ground flaxseed also. I also eats lots of whole grains. I eat no oils, refined, or processed foods. I eat raw veggies, salads, and smoothies containing fruits and greens that have been shown to fight cancer.

    I know that Dr Esselstyn doesn’t recommend smoothies, but Dr. Greger’s website shows you don’t get an insulin spike for these type of drinks so I don’t think it will hurt. This is a risk I’ve decided to take to fight the cancer. Flood my body with cancer fighting nutrients.

    Dr Esselstyn’s diet is the only diet that ever stopped and even reversed heart disease. Ornish did it as well. This is essentially the same diet that other doctors such as Dr. McDougall and Dr. Barnard recommend. I believe this same diet is best possible diet for cancer and every other chronic disease that American’s get. I believe there is “One Diet to Rule Them All” and this is it!

    One other comment, you have to make sure you eat enough calories to keep from losing too much weight or become weak, and even then you may lose weight. You need to keep your Doctor in the loop of what you are doing so he can see if you need to make adjustments to your diet. You might want to contact Dr. McDougall’s team about your situation or even attend one of his 10 day events if you are up to it.

    Last comment, you have to learn to control your stress and emotions. In order to give your immune system a chance to recover you need to get plenty of sleep, exercise, and keep stress to a minimum. Control your stress through excercise, yoga, living one day at a time, accepting the reality of your situation with a resolve to endure, and leaving all things up to your God if you are a religious person. This will help control the stress.

    Try to not let anyone including cancer still your joy. All you can do is fight the good fight to the best of your ability and let the cards play out as they will. Cancer is tough but there are people who have overcome it. Why not you!

    I wish and pray the best for you.

    1. this was an excellent post and i follow esselstyns diet to the letter also but include much more fruit with the same belief as you. 2 fruit bowls a day comes out to about 1 canteloupe, 4 apples, 4 oranges, couple handfuls of grapes and raisins plus the banana or 3 in between errands.

      the link you provided went to a headache article, not a video.

      could you please repost the correct link?

      thank you.

    2. Thank you for sharing!! I am sorry you are going through cancer treatment. And YES a WFPB diet can fight, prevent and reverse MANY MANY other chronic diseases. There is so much suffering that can be prevented with simple diet changes.. it is so powerful. Hopefully someone will read your post and be encouraged to make a change that could save their life!

  32. RICERCA GENERICA su alimenti-bevande, senza mai fare una netta distinzione tra carne-bevande da animali selvatici e/o di allevamento in vaste praterie e,carni-bevande di animali da allevamento e/o peggio se Intesivi !! animali, nati-vissuti fino alla loromacellazione, in totale statodi cattività, nascita-allattamento nutriti in funzione business carne-prodotto, senza movimento ,presa d’aria-luce-sole e super imbottiti di farmaci fino al giono dellaloro macellazione !! Atro punto, accusare l’utilizzo frequente di olio, senza mai specificase se oli ossidati,prima dell’utilizzo o ancora mono-poli-insaturi e se da prodotti maturi alla pianta e/o, verdi, questi ultimi, con alta acidità, sviluppo di perossidi dalla lavorazione estrazione olio fino al momento utilizzo, per carenza-assenza di polifenoli con funzione di Anti-Ossidanti, Anti-Infiammatori, ad es, i FLAVONOIDI E PIGMENTI VARI CHE, SON PRESENTI, IN MODO MASSICCIO, IN TUTTI I FRUTTI-PIANTE, GIUNTI A MATURAZIONE ! ! qUINDI, ESPERIMENTI CITATI, ATTENDIBILI MA, NON CERTAMENTE FATTI BENE !

    1. Leonne Willems: Your comment would only make sense to me if there wasn’t a general link between eating animal protein (which come with levels of IGF-1 which are too high) and increased cancer risk. Also, I’m not aware of any research generally linking people who refrain from eating animal protein to having IGF-1 levels which are too low. These are key points.
      A person with a reductionist approach only looks at some single nutrient or hormone etc and does not consider the bigger picture. The videos on this site include both the bigger patterns (which eating patterns/foods lead to increased disease risk verses which patterns lead to increased chances of health) AND looks at possible mechanisms to explain those observations. That IGF-1 is one such mechanism explored on this site is not reductionist (or even demonizing) thinking. It’s just good science.
      FYI: I did look at the page you linked to in your post above. I would not recommend anyone use that information as a guide on what to eat. It would be like listening to the people who try to tell us on this forum about how absolutely vital a good cholesterol level is in the body bla bla bla–completely missing key points, including missing the science linking foods with cholesterol and saturated fat to our number one early disease killer, heart disease.

      1. Hi Thea. You’d have a point indeed, if it were not for the fact that general links such as you describe are a collection of ANY animal protein, regardless of its origin and components (the quality of the proteïnen and the fats involved and the molecular composition). Distinctions between organic, grass-fed, moving outside animals are not made. I’d say: correclation: yes, causal: not evidence-based.

        1. Leonne Willems: Actually, we have plenty of evidence linking organic, grass fed say beef to diseases such as cancer. See below for information I share when people ask about grass fed/ organic / wild, etc. The correlations are logically considered causations when we have multiple studies in both the reductionist/mechanism level AND the whole designs level–saying the same thing from various angles. Again, just basic evidence-based science.

          b00mer, a well respected poster on this site, once wrote the following words which helps put the issue into perspective: “……A grass fed cow will consume even more food than a grain fed cow due to the lower caloric density. Their food may not be genetically modified, but they are still part of the food chain, their food still contains environmental pollutants, and they are still concentrating them in their tissues.
          ……How people can think that the nutritional profile of an animal completely changes with its diet is beyond me. If I eat mostly kale, or mostly corn, sure an analysis of my tissues may lead to some detectable differences, but it’s still going to be human flesh. I still produce hormones, I still have dioxin, pcbs, flame retardants in my tissues, I still have saturated fat in my tissues, arachidonic acid, etc.”
          The summary answer is that while these products may be *marginally* healthier, they are not significantly healthier? How do we know that? Because many of the reasons why these products are unhealthy would apply to the product regardless of its source. While an organic or wild or grass fed product may have less say saturated fat, they still have plenty of saturated fat–enough to matter. All of these animal products are still going to have saturated fat, cholesterol, animal protein, TMAO, contaminants, etc. All of these products are going to be lacking in fiber and vital phytonutrients, including precious few anitoxidants.
          The following NutritionFacts overviews gets you started on this topic and you will see that most if not all of these mechanisms apply to the product regardless of it’s source: and and Here’s a quote from moderator Rami: “Looking at meat and dairy, they still contain trans fats which the recommended daily allowance is at 0 Dairy blocks the phytonutrients of plant foods, Looking at chicken, its fat to protein ratio is abominable Fish protein itself shortens lifespan by 6 years by cutting down our telomeres . … What do animal products have in common? They promote cancer due to raised IGF-1 levels, promote heart disease, autoimmune disease, dementia, etc. What can stop the progression and in most cases reverse these diseases? Plants, not meat. It seems clear based on all of the evidence that plant food, all around, is much healthier than meat, organic or not.”
          NutritionFacts does have some videos that directly address your question. For example, here is a video on organic salmon: Note that while organic was better, it’s still got plenty of contaminants. “The differences were really marginal…” Here is a video showing arsenic in organic chicken:
          Looking outside of NutritionFacts for a minute, lets look at “wild” game, something paleo proponents make a big deal of. Participant donmatez once wrote, “Wild game also carry campylobacter, pathogenic E. coli, salmonella, etc. All the data available on pubmed. Example: Assessment of Shiga Toxin-Producing Escherichia coli Isolates from Wildlife Meat as Potential Pathogens for humans AND Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza Virus among Wild Birds in Mongolia
          For a smidgen of science on the issue of say grass fed beef, check out the following:
          >>> Tom Goff notes that In Uruguay for example where all beef comes from grass fed animals, the more beef eaten, the higher the rates of cancer.
          >>> The difference in palmitic acid concentrations between grass fed and grain fed beef is not significant Table (SFA):
          >>> Healthy Longevity pointed out some information from Plant Postive who noted that the nomadic Sinkiang in northern China who consumed diets rich in organic grass-fed animal foods experienced a 7 fold greater incidence of coronary artery disease than the Chinese living in Zhoushan Archipelago who consumed a diet much richer in plant based foods. These findings resemble even earlier observations from the 1920’s of the nomadic plainsmen in Dzungaria in northwest China and across the border in Kyrgyzstan who consumed enormous amounts of organic grass-fed animal foods and experienced severe vascular disease at young ages.
          >>>Darryl once wrote: “any of the constituents of animal foods of most concern are also present in organic, grass-fed, free-range, lovingly stroked animals too. Organic dairy milk will have high levels of leucine and microRNA-21 ( ), for example. Its intrinsic to milk’s biological purpose.
          What it comes down to is that “grass fed”/natural/fresh/organic/wild might be marginally (and I mean marginally) better, but that doesn’t make it healthy! It’s marginally better in the sense that a Snickers candy bar with peanuts is marginally better than a Milky Way candy bar that doesn’t have peanuts. Neither is actually healthy for you.

  33. Can anyone on here help with nutritional information for some with gray-zone Lymphoma, after having R-CHOP chemo and radiotherapy, I had almost a year in remission and have just found out the tumour is growing, with more intensive chemo being on offer. I want to make sure I have the best chance of survival and hopefully staying cancer free. I can provide more details if necessary.

    Are there any doctors, websites, experts I can contact online?

    Please help, I’m only 23, I’d like to live a bit longer if possible.

    1. Hi Will,
      *Disclaimer* I am not a doctor, but I consider myself a loyal student of Dr. Greger and his findings. Apologies, if you already know this, but there are the top two fruits, veggies, and nuts you should eat that have the best clinically proven cancer fighting properties (better than any other food in its category):

      Fruits: Lemons and Cranberries
      Veggies: Garlic and Broccoli
      Nuts: Walnuts and Pecans

      In general, try to consume the whole food as opposed to an extract or by-product of the food. Obviously, with lemons, you could just incorporate them as part of a smoothie (instead of trying to eat it straight!).

      Of course, there are plenty of other things you could do nutrition-wise. First, follow Dr. Greger’s Daily Dozen program (there is even a smartphone app for it)–don’t skimp on the Turmeric and Flaxseed recommendations. Second, try to boost your anti-oxidants whenever you can. Dr. Greger has an amazing video that shows just how much Amla (gooseberry) powder and blueberries added to a smoothie can boost this effect.

      It would be wise to discuss any significant dietary change with your doctor(s) because in some cases (like with adding grapefruit or cruciferous veggies) a change might effect the medication you are taking (sometimes dangerously so).

      I wish you the best. –Andrew

      1. Hi Andrew

        Thank you very much for taking the time out to reply in such detail, will definitely be making sure I incorporate more of these foods in my diet, and do my best to hit the daily dozen!

        Thanks again

  34. I will soon be taking care of my mother who has been diagnosed with Stage IV throat cancer. One of the extra challenges she will be facing is that she is already borderline underweight before the treatments (both chemo and radiation) have started. This problem will only start to compound with treatment.

    My question is to solicit recommendations for healthy ways I can try to give her as many calories as possible. Of course, I am going to follow Dr. Greger’s recommendations for all the best cancer fighting foods, but one side effect of a whole food plant based approach is that these foods are generally low calorie!

    With an irradiated throat, the best I am going to hope for is to be able to give her foods via the blender (think green smoothies). She will have a feeding tube as a last resort, but I would love to hear suggestions on how to pump up the calories in a healthy way.

    Thank you!

  35. Could someone please clarify 2 facts for me regarding IGF-1. Is there IGF-1 in plant foods? When we eat plant foods, do our bodies produce ANY levels of IGF-1 due to the consumption of plant foods. I understand all the issues with animal protein. I’m just not clear whether plants even have this substance or if it is created in our bodies at all if we eat plants. I am WFPB myself. Thanking you in advance for your answer.

  36. Will,

    May I suggest a visit to the Cancer Center of America. Unlike the conventional approaches, they are truly an integrated approach and using current knowledge. Dr. Alan Kadish moderator for Dr. Greger

    1. | docbeccy commented on How Not to Die from CancerDocbeccy, Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. The video you shared is great. But I still have a clarifying question. I understand that a reaction to eating plant food is that the body can produce IGF-1 and some foods, such as soy protein isolate, cause high levels of production. The question is this: Do plant foods in themselves have IGF-1? We know animals produce IGF-1 but I am trying to learn whether plants produce this same hormone. Or do only animals produce IGF-1? Thank you again if you can answer this.

  37. Hello, Avgi Papakyriakou. I am not sure what prompted this particular question, and I am not aware of any particular whole grains that are better for fighting metastatic prostate cancer than others. Certainly, a diet loaded with whole plant foods, especially cruciferous vegetables such as broccoli, will help fight any cancer. You might find these videos useful:
    Basically, you want as many antioxidants as possible. I hope that helps!

  38. What does Dr Gregor believe is the optimal diet for a dog? So many dogs are getting and frequently dying of cancer. Are some foods/treats better than others?

    1. Hi Rebecca! Thanks for your question! We can only speak to the benefits of plant-based diets for humans. I suggest you consult your veterinarian if you’re considering changing your dog’s diet. Dogs process certain nutrients differently than people do – so it’s important to notify your vet of any dietary changes to make sure you’re providing them with all the nutrients they need to stay happy and healthy. So sorry we can’t be of further assistance. Wishing you and your furry friends all the best!

  39. So I am curious. There has been a lot of research on cancer and diet. Generally it appears a plant based diet is much less cancer promoting. If that is true, then “vegans” or people that eat a “plant based diet” should get significantly less cancer. Are there any statistics that prove that true or not?

  40. The following links are to old articles suggesting a link between gullet cancer and the use of fertilizers, which may lead to excess levels of nitrates within vegetables/fruits:

    The advice from NutritionFacts suggests a plant based diet for optimal health.

    Any comments on this? If false, a video debunking this claim would be awesome!

  41. HI! very very curious, are the concepts and nutritional benefits of cancer eradicating foods the same for all types of cancers?? i am dating someone with cervical cancer and i need to know the best possible way to eradicate it from her body and treat it. any information is so so unbelievably appreciated :) thankyou very much :)

  42. Hi! While there is evidence that a plant based diet will benefit most types of cancer, certain plants and plant nutrients may in addition aid in more specific areas. Nutritionfacts has a collection of videos on this topic at , that should be relevant to your inquiry.
    Here is a quote from this topic’s summary: “Some foods that may have a beneficial effect on cervical cancer prevention and treatment include: turmeric application for early stage cancer; phytate intake from beans, grains, nuts and seeds, green tea, broccoli, broccoli sprouts, amla, raspberries, strawberries, and chamomile tea.”
    I hope this helps, have a great day.

  43. Have you done any studies on metatasized ovarian cancer stage 3C regarding a plant based diet? Thank you in advance for replying.

    1. Hi Diane,

      I am a volunteer for Dr. Greger. Unfortunately, there are no studies on plant-based diets and any cancers, except for one study done on early stage prostate cancer. That study, run by Dr. Dean Ornish, did see promising results, indicating that plant-based diets may be effective for the reversal of cancer.

      However, whole food, plant-based diets have been shown to enhance immune function and be cancer protective. Considering that there are no health drawbacks to a whole food, plant-based diet, it might be something worth trying for ovarian cancer, or any cancer. Be sure to inform your physician of drastic dietary changes, however.

      I hope this helps, and I hope that more research can be done on plant-based diets and cancer.

  44. This is a longshot, but thought I would write. My question concerns prostate cancer, dairy, and calcium.

    My father in law was diagnosed with fairly advanced prostate cancer and is undergoing hormone treatment (with radiation commencing at a later date) at Roswell Park in Buffalo. Roswell Park is a fairly highly accredited cancer institute.

    I am a follower of a mainly plant based diet, a renaissance which has taken place over the last couple years. I listen to Rich Roll which led me to Dr. Michael Greger and

    With the new knowledge I have, I was shocked when my wife called and told me today that my father in law was told to up his dairy consumption in order to add calcium which would help avoid issues associated with the hormone therapy. From my newfound sources of information I believe this is a bad idea, as dairy could perhaps increase his cancer risk, while a plant based diet might help alleviate it.

    So, my questions:
    1. Is an increase in dairy safe for someone who has prostate cancer?
    2. Is the increase in dairy necessary to help the body against the effects of hormone treatment?
    3. If no, what are better sources of calcium.

    Thank you and I hope this is a question you find interesting and thus decide to answer. Appreciate your time!


    1. Your father-in-law may already know this from his oncologist; however, I thought mentioning it anyway. Sugar is a cancer cell’s desired food. So even carbs that turn into sugar i.e. boxed cereals, some potatoes, ect. ALSO, pesticides are carcinogenic; so ORGANIC is the way to go.

      Peace to you and your father-in-law

  45. Scientists at Rafael Pharmaceuticals believe their new drug, CPI-613, is a breakthrough for people suffering from some of the most devastating types of cancer, such as pancreatic, lymphoma and lung. *******Cancer Cells Are Different From Healthy Cells

    CPI-613 was developed as part of Rafael’s proprietary Altered Energy Metabolism Directed (AEMD) drug platform. The drug is designed to target the mitochondrial tricarboxylic acid (TCA) cycle, an indispensable process essential to tumor cell multiplication and survival, selectively in cancer cells.

    Cancer cells have different nutritional needs than healthy cells. CPI-613 targets cancer metabolism, which is a relatively new way of treating the disease.

    CPI-613 has performed very well in clinical trials and could be on the market as soon as next year.
    ***CPI-613 reportedly has fewer side effects than other cancer drugs. Earlier this year, the Food and Drug Administration gave approval for the drug to move further into human testing.

  46. LOVE, Love This video – How Not to Die from Cancer Michael Greger M.D. FACLM October 3rd, 2016 Volume 32

    Thank you Dr. Greger and staff for all you do.


  47. Is every one born already with pre-cancer cells inside their body? How long is it going to take to start growing and having impact on our health from very young age


    1. Ryo,

      thanks for your interesting question. No, we are not born with caner cells initially. But we are born having cells with the potential to become cancer cells. Our cells are constantly multiplying and as a result there will always be some cells that are changed (mutated) with the potential to become cancerous. Our immune system kills these cells most of the time. When immunity fails recognize the cell as a cancer or can’t kill it, then it can become a cancer. Everyday, your immune system kills at least one cell which could become cancer.

      And how long does it take for tumor to grow? It really depends on the type of the tumor, but it could be months, years or more (up to 30+ years). Same goes for symptoms, it depends.

      Take care,

      Adam P.

  48. Hello, KeriNZ,

    I belive you can still have a healthy diet, even if you are salicylate sensitive. But it would be best to check with your doctor. List of foods with low salicylicate content include: Banana, lime, peeled pear, cabbage, celery green split peas -dried, lentils, lettuce – iceberg, swede. peeled potatoes, barley, buckwheat, millet, oats, rice, rye, wheat, nuts, tofu and many others. :)

    Have a nice day,

    Moderator Adam P.

  49. In chapter 9 of “How not to die” at the end of the chapter on the last paragraph i am alittle confused , r u saying that a plant base diet is the cause of the blood cancers my wbc and rbc and platets are little on the low side i was going to go on a plant base diet to increase these numbers am i causing more harm than good

    1. Hello Terry,
      Thank you for your question. I am a family doctor with a private practice in lifestyle medicine, and also a volunteer moderator for this website. I just looked at the last paragraph of Chapter 9. I can see how you might be a little confused by that. What Dr. G. was trying to say is “Plant-based diets reduce the risk of blood cancers by half”, NOT that plant-based diets cause half of all blood cancers.

      Regarding your white blood count being a “little on the low side” — that is a GOOD thing. Here are two videos where Dr. G. explains this:

      Regarding your platelet and RBC counts being a little low, that is not going to hurt you at all, and is probably also good for you. Remember that having too many platelets can lead to blood clots.

      I hope this helps.
      Dr. Jon
      Volunteer moderator for

  50. Since the website says to reach out via the videos, I wanted to reach out here to the community. I have been on a plant-based diet for over one year now, have reversed my prostate issues, and hoping for the same with my thyroid (tips for that would be appreciated). However, I am reaching out for my boss. He’s a 57 year-old, typical American who laughs at a diet without no meat; “Un-American.” That said he has the standard signs associated with his “American” diet. He is pre-diabetic, according to his doctor, and was recently put on blood thinners due to a heart palpitation concern or something. To me the latter was another red flag and I wanted to turn him on to the diet. He tried it, and had severe muscle cramps which prevented him from his daily bike ride back-and-forth to work. Needless to say, he went back to eating meat, but is trying to eat better incorporating more greens (which of course are laced with sauces and oils and such). He said his body doesn’t process carbs so he can’t have them. Of course my response to him was, “what? You’re not human? Of course you can.” Trouble is, I have no idea what he was experiencing nor could I make any recommendations. I know a plant based diet would help him, but I need to convince him to stay with it. Recommendations please! What can I say to him?!?! Thank you!

    1. Hey Dan, thanks for writing. To answer this question, I suggest looking outside the nutrition field, and going into the psychology literature. The ‘Stages of Change’ model suggests that when an individual is in the pre-contemplation (of change) phase, raising consciousness about a problem can help move them further down the road to change. This can be done by providing timely and accurate info, such as sending him a link to a Dr G video, buying him a copy of a book written by Dr. G (or by Neal Barnard, Joel Fuhrman, or Dr. McDougall) so that he can see why he should move in the direction of a plant-based diet. On the more practical side, you might consider sharing a vegetarian dish with him that you know he would probably enjoy: like a Pasta Primavera made with either the Trader Joe’s or Light Life brand of meatless Italian sausage, or some chili made with a meat substitute. These can be a ‘bridge’ that separates meat eaters from meat while giving them the TASTE associated with meat products. Good luck, and what a lucky guy your boss is to have someone thinking about his health!

  51. Please could you do something on the ketogenic diet. I am a breast cancer survivor but now with some metastasis (diagnosed late 2016 via X away, I am symptomless). I have eaten whole food plant based diet for last 5 years or so but am now frequently being encouraged to move to ketogenic diet. There seem to be two trains of thought – on the one hand you, T. Colin Campbell, Caldwell etc (all of whom we have heard talk on Taste of Health Cruise) who promote no oil and whole food plant based and then on the other hand, the ketogenic folks who push high fat – and particularly coconut and olive oil – and suggest, if you have no moral objection (I don’t, just prefer vegan and think it’s better for the planet) eating meat (I wouldn’t anyway, don’t like it anymore but might consider the also highly popular bone broth) and fish. I would like to see some genuine, evidence-based comparisons as there seems to be research supporting both positions but very few comparisons of the two. Thanks

  52. Thanks for your great question. The information you would probably find the most useful to your questions would be from the videos Dr. Greger has done about the paleo diet which is a low carb, ketogenic diet.

    You might also like this video Dr. Greger made about bone broth:

    My biggest concern as a nurse you find right in the name, ketogenic. A diet that aims for ketogenesis. Ketogenesis is a state of illness, not of health. It’s a biochemical process that happens under stress or during famine. Persons who loose weight on a ketogenic diet do it by making themselves sick.

    All the best.
    NF Moderator.

  53. Aloha,
    I attended Dr. G’s presentation when he was on Maui. I had a year of serious health issues and his book came out just in time to SAVE MY LIFE! I’m not writing about my story though – that’s a different topic – but instead about sister.
    My sister has recently been diagnosed with stage 1/2 breast cancer. She’s wanting to do a KETOGENIC (ketosis) STARVATION type diet. I’m out of my mind worried and sending her links/info/book etc. to combat that plan but she sent me links to studies from USC (see below.)

    Can you give me thought on how I can further explain that this is not a sustainable plan for her breast cancer?

    Thank you so very much for all you do. By the way, I’ve given out about 10 books as gifts and am doing well in my own journey.
    (below is info from my sister)
    Subject: Fasting to Fight Cancer and Chemo Treatment (KETOGENIC DIETS)
    Documentary With Background Research:

    1. | Jacqueline Neal commented on How Not to Die from CancerJacqueline, I would suggest you do a phone consult with any of the WFPB doctors to ask your question. They will tell you why the keto diet pushing meat is not healthy for cancer. Since it raises IGF-1 levels in your bloodstream, how can this be healthy for cancer, as IGF-1 promotes cancer; this is my first concern. Many of these docs do consults. Look at Joel Fuhrman, Michael Klaper, Linda Carney, etc..

      1. Aloha Denise. Thank you for your reply. Great idea and clear “cut to the chase” info! Mahalo and have a healthy and beautiful day.

  54. I see many videos/stories of people who have cancer and reject conventional treatment, radiation chemo etc. which I believe as true. However, I have not found a study like; 200 people have cancer and they all went on a strict natural food diet.
    Result; out of the 200, X number of people lived.
    Does anyone know of such a study?

  55. Hi Jdc7,

    I am a volunteer for Dr. Greger. Thank you so much for your question.

    Unfortunately, we do not really have a study like that. The closest thing we have is Dr. Dean Ornish’s study, testing a low-far, plant-based diet and other healthy lifestyle interventions, out on men with high PSA levels (marker for prostate cancer), and found that the diet group ended up lowering their PSA levels, while the control group ended up increasing their PSA levels.

    I agree with you though! We need this type of study to occur. It just becomes hard to get funding for it.

    I hope this helps to answer your question!

  56. I am wondering specifically what Plant food would help Langerhans cell histiocytosis. Or even if there are some to stay away from. Thanks for any and all help.

  57. and in a brochure, prostate cancer foundation still recommends chicken! and low-fat dairy! and 2 servings of fish a week! Their phone number is 800-757-2873 and a real person answers. However, if you ask why are these recommended, you are told they’ll call back later. I am waiting for the call.
    It is a pretty presentation, heavy paper, colorful pictures. It does recommend tomatoes and fruits. (Who paid for it?)
    also University of California, San Francisco and Harvard, T.H. Chan, school of prublic health are also listed on the front.

  58. My husband was recently diagnosed with cancer. I eat a plant based diet, but he does not. He is interested in starting. Do I put him on the Low Fat, High Carb diet? What book do I read to give me exactly what he should be eating in a day?

    1. Hi Heather, I’m so sorry to hear your husband….like mine has cancer. This is our experience: aggressive cancer, stage 4, Gleason score 9, ~100 lbs overweight, 25-years diabetic. A curmudgeon when it came to giving up his beloved cheese, meat, dairy. However, I never gave up and finally got, as a birthday present, a promise to go WFPB, for 2 weeks. Since going on a low oil, low sugar, WFPB lifestyle, he’s lost 45 lbs, no diabetes, and felt great. Within a month came cancer (stage 4, aggressive, Gleason 9) tests, surgery. We’ve read hours and hours of literature. My husband is a biophysicist and teaches at URMC (med school) so has access to scientific literature. I have watched just about every Dr. Greger video he’s produced. There is a remarkable sparsity of statistics regarding WFPB lifestyle and prostate cancer…but enough to give confidence that the very best way to reduce/prevent metastasis is WFPB lifestyle. I so wish you and your husband a wonderful adventure in cooking…we’re working our way through Dr. Greger’s cookbook and love it. And I so wish your husband no metastasis.

    2. Hi, heather! I am so sorry to learn about your husband’s diagnosis, but congratulate the two of you on making healthier choices. I would, of course, recommend the book, How Not to Die and the How Not to Die Cookbook. There are lots of other great books and resources out there, as well. If you have not already done so, check out Forks Over Knives website, app, and cookbook, as well as Dr. McDougall‘s resources. You can find everything on this site about cancer here. I recommend emphasizing greens and cruciferous vegetables, as well as beta-glucan-rich foods such as oats, barley and mushrooms. I hope that helps!

  59. Is there any truth to an American research linking melanoma to aspirin intake in men (not women)? thank you

    here is the excerpt (translated from Italian by me):

    Researchers of the Beatrice Nardoneder of Northwestern University (Illinois) have discovered a side effect of ASA precedently unknown. “Men who take aspirin every day double their risk of developing melanoma compared to men who do not take it”, reports the study. This is not true for women. Study published in the Journal of American Academy of Dermatology.

    1. Hello again, Sylvia. I accessed the article you mentioned, and a few others on related subjects. There have been previous studies showing that daily aspirin was associated with improved survival in those treated for malignant melanoma.
      This study has not officially been published yet in its final form. Only an accepted author’s manuscript is available at this time. That said, the study did find a significant increased risk for malignant melanoma among males only, not females, after a year of daily aspirin use.
      The study has some weaknesses, by the authors’ own admission. While it is a large study funded by the NIH, which is good, the researchers did not verify that the participants were actually taking the aspirin every day, as directed. They also did not control for potential differences in sun exposure. I do not question the validity of the study, but it is not necessarily conclusive. I agree with the authors that more research should be done on this topic, and I think it is an issue worth considering for those taking daily aspirin. I hope that helps!

  60. I’m over 65, so this source (which was cited for this video) interested me very much and left me somewhat confused about animal protein and cancer:

    “Low protein intake is associated with a major reduction in IGF-1, cancer, and overall mortality in the 65 and younger but not older population.”

    Even the title of the study makes someone my age want to eat a high-protein diet.
    What are the best high-protein plants to eat to achieve this?

    The study states:
    “When we controlled for the effect of plant-based protein, there was no change in the association between protein intake and mortality, indicating that high levels of animal proteins promote mortality and not that plant-based proteins have a protective effect (Table S5).”

    I’m so confused Can you please comment?

  61. Hello Nancy,
    I am a family doctor with training in epidemiology, and also a volunteer for this website. I will try to address your questions. I have looked up the full-text version of the article that you (and Dr. Greger) cite.

    First, regarding the finding that “in respondents over age 65, high protein intake was associated with reduced cancer and overall mortality”: Dr. Greger does not address this in his video; he focuses on the findings among people aged 50-65. In reading the paper, they make several points about the results in people over age 65:
    1) high protein intake was still strongly associated with the risk of developing diabetes;
    2) the “low protein” group got less than 10% of total calories came from protein — this is very low, and lower than what most vegans eat.
    3) in the studies they did on old mice, they found that the mice on the very low protein diet (only 4-7% of calories from protein) could not maintain their body weight — so they were actually malnourished, therefore not surprising that they had some health problems.
    4) they go on to recommend that people over age 65 get at least 10% of their calories from protein, which seems reasonable.

    Your second question was “what are the best high-protein plants” (to raise your protein intake)? The answer to that is legumes — i.e. beans and lentils, which are very high in protein content. One cup of cooked kidney beans contains 15 grams of protein. Also, healthy nuts such as walnuts (~17% protein), and seeds such as flaxseeds (18% protein), are a good source.

    Your third question was about the somewhat confusing language the authors of the study used, about “controlling for” different factors. What they mean is that they held that variable constant. So when they say they “controlled for the effect of plant based protein”, they mean that they first look at people who all ate a similarly high amount of plant protein, then at those with a similarly low amount of plant protein, and within each group they still found the same amount of increased mortality, as the total protein intake increased. So they conclude that it’s not that high plant protein is protective, but rather that high animal protein intake is harmful.

    On the other hand, if they hold constant the level of animal protein intake in their analysis, then within each level of animal protein intake, it doesn’t matter how much plant protein they ate — they still had the same level of mortality, and the more animal protein, the greater the mortality. (This is called a “stratified analysis”).

    So, you are wise to avoid animal protein; this paper advises that you would also be wise to be sure that at least 10% of your calories come from protein. This is not very difficult to do.

    I hope this helps.
    Dr. Jon
    Volunteer Moderator for

  62. Talk about rocking my world…!!!!
    I have been a Professional Strength Coach and Trainer for 34 years and have always advised on eating clean whole foods not processed with 60% of protein coming from animal.
    It’s amazing the fads and changes regarding what you should/shouldn’t eat in my three decades of being in the fitness industry. This now is not just a theory or one’s belief but now backed with medically based evidence. I’m just going to throw this question out there…..Does it even remotely matter if the animal protein is: Organic, grass fed, rbgh, preservative free, hormone free, etc.
    Thank you for your tireless efforts and research.

    1. Hi Supercell2(Mike). I’m by no means an expert or a site moderator but I constantly study the experts such as Dr. Greger and Dr. T. Colin Campbell.
      According to the latter, in “The China Study”: “In practical terms, you aren’t doing yourself much good by eating organic beef instead of conventional beef that’s been pumped full of chemicals. The organic beef might be marginally healthier, but we would never say that it was a safe choice. Both types of beef have a similar nutrient profile.” According to the former in “How Not to Die”: “There are even organic Oreo cookies.
      Junk food is still junk food, even if it was produced organically.” While this doesn’t address so called “healthy animal foods.” There are many videos that Dr Greger has on here regarding the scientific evidence that it is animal protein, NOT plant proteins, that are adversely effecting our health and causing many of the common American diseases such as heart disease, diabetes, prostate cancer, and so on. Putting a fresh paint job on a “crappy car that doesn’t move,” is still a “crappy car that doesn’t move,” it’s just prettier. much like the packaging on beef labeled “Organic.” Organic animal foods is the lesser of two evils, while organic produce is the better of two greats. I hope this helps! I just finished Proteinaholic by Dr. Garth Davis, How Not to Die by Dr. Michael Greger, and The China Study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell as well as watching numerous lectures by them that are on YouTube. The evidence that animal foods are poison, and plant based foods are health promoting and cancer preventing is overwhelming. Hope this helps.

  63. Hello Dr. Greger and the amazing crew! I have been following you for many years now, I enjoy your videos, the interviews with you and all the information you so are so dedicated to put out there for the world. I live on a low fat, whole food plant based diet myself, and have experienced so many benifits from it.

    So, my dearest mother have got cancer in her lung. It started with that she had trouble with her breathing because her lung was filled with fluid. She is also diagnostizied with fibrymoliga as long as I can remember. Just before the doctors new it was cancer, she had a thrombus in her leg. They want to put her on medicine with anti-retroviral effect.

    About 3 years ago I talked to my parents about a plant based diet filled with right nutrition, and that there was a chance that she would get well from her disease. She tried it out for some months, got better and more alert but then they fell back into old habits and she got worse. Even though they live mostly as vegans they eat processed food and fatty stuff, and diary cheese. The amount of food she puts in her body is pretty low, too. And since she is in pain she doesn’t move her body much.

    I don’t know what to do, and I don’t know where to find right support. They are not very convinced that right type of food actually can heal you from many diseases. She is planning to go with the medicine. How can I reach them? Is there somehting specific I can show them? Is there something I can do that I have not done yet? What advices can I give to her? What does she need?

    Thank you for everything you are and for everyting you do.
    Best Regards,
    Daughter from Sweden

    1. | irina commented on How Not to Die from CancerDear Irina,

      Some ideas for resources: Show your family the chapters in Dr. Greger’s book, How Not to Die, that he has written on lung diseases and cancers. He has some video clips on cancer as well. Look for them in his menu search. Then to show consensus, show them the web site of Chris Beats Cancer and some of the interview testimonials on that site. Dr. Fuhrman has a lecture about beating cancer with food. Look for that on YouTube. I’m sure there are other plant-based Doctors with lectures on cancer and diet too on YouTube. Search for them. Unless your family buys into the science that food is very implicated in cancer, you will not likely have success with them. But know you have tried your very best. I am sorry you have to go through this. It is very difficult to see loved ones ignore the science but we can only make decisions for ourselves. Best to you and remember to know you have tried!!!

      1. Hello Denise!

        I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your answer and your support. It was really heart warming. I will try all of your ideas. It is hard to express how much it ment to me. Thank you!

        1. | irina replied to your comment on How Not to Die from Cancer.Irina, Thank You for your kind message back. I had a mom lie in a bed for 16 years with dementia. Prior to losing your cognition, she would never listen to anything I would tell her about eating healthy. It is so hard with our loved ones. I have a Facebook and YouTube channel you might enjoy for more plant-based knowledge. It is under the name, Happy Vegan Couple. Check it out if you like. Best to you.

  64. I agree with what Denise has said.I would encourage them to watch Dr. Greger’s video “” if they haven’t already..” You don’t say whether you live near your mother, which of course would allow you to offer to shop and cook with/for her.She’s probably eating the processed food because it’s convenient, so if you could make it easier for her, explaining or actually cooking in batches, cutting up veggies and having fruit easy to grab, making some nut cheese available, having the soy yogurt in the fridge–all these might make it less likely she’d rely on those processed fatty foods. Giving her very simple recipes might help too. I’m sure you’ll continue to try your best to encourage healthy nutrition and as Denis mentioned know you are making caring daughterly efforts under very difficult circumstances. Best of health to you and your mother.

    1. Joan,

      I want to thank you sincerely for your heart warming response! I live near her so I can definitely help out with preparing and cooking food. That is a lovely idea. Thank you so much for your support. And for the video tip. I can feel your dedication all the way to Sweden, and that gives me so much hope.

  65. One comment… Dr. Gregor asserts that exercise is no match for plant based diet based on the study, but the effects of exercise were roughly half those of exercise+diet… So wouldn’t it be safe to assume that diet has roughly the same effect as exercise, if you are accounting for the shown effect of exercise only?

    1. Hello Samantha,

      Thank you for your question.

      I think an important distinction to make here is that the “exercise” group was partaking in regular, strenuous activity and the “exercise + diet” group were only walking as their exercise. Diet likely played a much larger role in that group than the regular walking did, although walking is definitely a great activity to partake in. I will agree; however, that we do not know exactly how much of a role diet played vs exercise since we didn’t have a “strenuous exercise + diet” group in that study. But like always, we must go off the currently available evidence, and by evaluating all the data in the above video, it is safe to assume that diet may be our strongest weapon against cancer.

      I hope this helps clear up your question.


  66. Hi,

    Hoping you can help:

    Would the anti-cancer effects of a plant-based diet also apply to Her2/neu+ breast cancer, even when it has spread to the brain? Or is this type of cancer more of a genetic mishap that may not be affected by diet and lifestyle choices after all?

    Thank you!

  67. Anti cancer affects of plants have been shown to turn off cancer genes, so there is demonstrated benefit. While cancer spread to the brain is quite advanced, every case will be different. It is certainly worth a try whole food plant based. Dr. Dean Ornish has shown shrinkage of prostate cancer tumors while on this lifestyle. Of course these patients need to be treated by a licensed doctor expert in the treatment of these diseases as well and any changes in diet need to be discussed and approved by the doctor prior to trying them.

    Dr. Ben

  68. I feel like an outlier. After being diagnosed with Gleason 6 prostate cancer (PSA 4.4) in April 2017, I changed my diet completely to vegan plant based diet, which included 30g + of flaxseeds, daily tomato passata, daily turmuric, 5 cups of green tea each day, handful of nuts each day (almonds, walnuts, brazil nuts, pecans), daily cup of berries, increased intake of anti oxidant rich food, meditation and running 25km per week – I had a radical prostatectomy in January 2019 which found 7 plus gleason 9 tumours in the prostate. . . Where to from here?

    1. Hello, My husband had your scores: gleason 9, stage 3b, had just turned vegan, WFPB no added oil. he’s on ADT… which is miserable… he’s gained 15 lbs, stopped exercising. psa has stayed undetectable since surgery.
      You did not mention metastasis… I am hoping your diet did reduce that chance. Since my husband was diagnosed a year and 4 months ago, we’ve done research on diet and immunotherapy — we’re both medically literate and have access to a medical library. There’s lots of literature supporting less aggressive cancer.. not so much for aggressive. It’s our opinion that even with aggressive cancer, the turmeric, etc. reduces metastasis. Byron takes a drink with fresh turmeric fresh and powdered ginger, spirulina, ground flax seed, powdered amla, lots of fruit including lemon. He’s tried to cut out all sugar and added oil.. not always successful, it sounds like you are doing everything right… unless you are overexercising.. (also excess supplemental turmeric is unhealthy) I hope both you and my husband live a long life and really believe if there is a key right now… it’s what you are doing.

  69. Hi Dr. Greger, I am searching for any possible videos you might have on using Fish Oil (claimed to be from Alaska’s fresh water and cold pressed) for someone in early stages of prostate cancer. If not fish oil, what is the best way to get the recommended amount of Omega 3 fatty acids for a this person. If there is a video available, can you kindly point me to it, or if not, can you comment please.
    Best Regards,
    Haroon (

  70. Hi, I’m hoping to have a question answered by posting on this video. My mother-in-law was diagnosed with stage III primary gall bladder cancer in February of 2019. The hospital could not operate, could not offer radiation therapy, and only offered her palliative chemotherapy. They encouraged her to eat a diet of processed and refined carbohydrates, sugars, dairy, and meat to increase and maintain her weight for chemo. Despite all of the nutrition information with regard to cancer that I shared with her, she did not want to take it. She’s been seeing a holistic doctor who specializes in ozone therapy treatments and also strongly encourages a WFPB diet and her mass has significantly shrunk in the last 3 months (and this is without diet changes). She was recently admitted to the hospital with a minor bowel obstruction due to adhesions from abdominal procedures. They have recommended a low residue diet for her. Which again, is all pro-inflammatory foods with strong emphasis to STAY AWAY from whole grains, raw vegetables, fruit, legumes, and tofu. I know that if she continues to eat this way she will die. What are your thoughts on a recommendation of a low residue diet and how to work around this? Why would foods that are more difficult for the body to digest be recommended to a patient with a cancer of the digestive system? Are foods high in fiber truly that detrimental to her system? I’m so frustrated and upset and just feel at a loss for what to do. When you’re up against the huge western medicine system no one wants to believe anything else than what they say.

    1. Dear Anonymous,

      I hear your pain and frustration! One suggestion: See if you can contact this doctor for a consult question if possible. She is a WFPB gastroenterologist. Look at her web page maybe there is something about this. I actually tried to ask her a similar question on a Facebook message but I didn’t hear back. It was for a different medical condition for someone I know but they too despite having fibromyalgia was eating basically a meat and fat diet because of digestive issues as well. Hope you can find your answer and if you do and it’s somewhere else besides, please repost and tell us what you learned.

      Sent from Mail for Windows 10

    2. I’m reposting because I forgot to put in the link I am sharing:

      Dear Anonymous,

      I hear your pain and frustration!  One suggestion: See if you can contact this doctor for a consult question if possible. She is a WFPB gastroenterologist. Look at her web page maybe there is something about this.  I actually tried to ask her a similar question on a Facebook message but I didn’t hear back. It was for a different medical condition for someone I know but they too despite having fibromyalgia was eating basically a meat and fat diet because of digestive issues as well.  Hope you can find your answer and if you do and it’s somewhere else besides, please repost and tell us what you learned. PS: I just submitted a question about this on her web page. Perhaps do the same and it will help for a forthcoming answer.

      Sent from Mail for Windows 10

    3. I’m sorry for the frustration you are feeling about medical advice your mother-in-law is receiving which seems to counter what you know about proactive ways to improve her health. As a nurse, what I’d suggest is to make an appointment with a dietitian associated with her health care professional voicing your concerns about the potential damage of incorporating pro-inflammatory foods and dangers of avoiding fiber foods. Coming to a compromise, perhaps staring with the low residue plant foods listed in this article, then gradually moving on to fiber foods might be a compromise, and as your mother in law tolerates this higher fiber foods, her medical team will support her dietary changes. It would be good to have her doctor eventually endorse this different approach, even if you have to start gradually to teach them. You can serve to be her advocate and honestly monitor and report should the higher fiber foods cause problems. Best of health to both your mother-in-law and you in dealing with medical professionals “who don’t get it.”

  71. With the recent coverage in the news on the continued struggles of the 9/11 first-responders and rescue workers and the unusual cancers, autoimmune disorders, etc. that they have been suffering, I was trying to figure out whether there have been any plant-based diet / nutrition interventional studies in that group? It seems like a group that could certainly benefit from such an intervention, plus a study in a cohort with such unusual/rare diagnoses could potentially yield some very robust data.

  72. Patein,

    There is no one best specific food for bone sarcomas. It’s an interplay of whole foods that has the greatest effect.

    I would direct you to Dr. Greger’s video: regarding food and mTor modulation to prevent cancer stimulation.

    Please also see: for a review of the mTor stimulation in other sarcomas.

    Dr. Alan Kadish moderator for Dr. Greger

    1. There has actually been some success with water only fasting prior to chemo for some cancers. Apparently it slows the growth of normal cells and allows the cancer cells which grow rapidly to stand out to the chemo. Less side effects.

  73. This is incredible! Thank you as ever for sharing your wisdom. I have shared this video with someone who I know is undergoing treatment and I sincerely hope he listens to your advice

  74. Good morning, I follow the book ‘De Voedselzandloper’ of Kris Verburgh for preventing Cancer, I had it already twice, greetings Kerstens Nadia

  75. I’m curious what Dr. Gregor has to say about Joanna Budwigs research with cancer. Specifically her research on emulsifying cottage cheese with flaxseed oil. In her findings she says that the combination of the two increases oxygen uptake in the cells. And that oxygen intake is what helps stop cancer. The lack of oxygen in cells for respiration, the More aggressive cancer grows.

    1. Dr Budwigs diet and research surrounded around no animal fats of dairy. The only dairy was the Budwig protocol of cottage cheese and flaxseed oil.

  76. Hi Dr Greger and team. I replied to a message on Twitter from someone saying they had cancer, and their treatment had been put on hold. However, they were determined not to let this defeat them, and they were going to fight the cancer with whatever they could find. So I responded saying they should research the work of Dean Ornish, and also gave them a link to this page.
    I then received this Tweet,

    Hey @Twitter
    – are you aware that you are breaking the law?
    You are taking part in the publication of an advertisement giving advice on the treatment of cancer, which is an offence under s.4 of the Cancer Act 1939.

    A comment on this law, on Snopes, says, in part:
    “If… an individual did actually discover…cures for cancer, they would be free under the Cancer Act of 1939 to publish about their discoveries in scientific journals, discuss them privately or in academic contexts, or to continue researching the concept. They would not, however, be allowed to present that information to the general public in advertisements in the United Kingdom.”
    I wondered what Dr Greger’s response to this might be.

  77. Taking into account how it unfolds now, the quality of the videos has decreased in production, if they look better but there are cons that do not end up fitting, however congratulations on the post.

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