Is Lipstick Safe Given the Lead Contamination?

Is Lipstick Safe Given the Lead Contamination?
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Dozens of lipsticks and lip glosses are put to the test.

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Over the past years, the use of cosmetic products has evidently increased “at an alarming rate due to unending pursuit for individual beautification.” Nothing necessarily wrong with that, unless cosmetic products contained ingredients that may be linked to disease: ingredients such as toxic heavy metals, like lead. Lead has been found in a wide range of cosmetic products, from eye shadow to skin cream, foundation, blush. I talked about henna before. But, looking at the data, an important warning can be recognized—the presence of lead in lipsticks—because you end up inadvertently actually swallowing a little bit of it. It has been estimated that a woman may end up ingesting three pounds of lipstick over her lifetime; “moreover, lipsticks can be used by pregnant women or women of child bearing age.” Uh, duh.

Yes. “Lead is highly toxic;” but how much lead can there be in lipstick? Surely, it’s “a very minor source.” “Nonetheless, one should not exclude the fact that lead accumulates in the body..over time, and [so] repetitive lead-containing lipstick…application [might] lead to significant exposure.” But, you don’t really know…until you put it to the test.

Thirty-two lipsticks and lip glosses tested, and lead was detected in three-fourths of the products, suggesting “public health concerns.” But how much lead did they find? About half exceeded the FDA-recommended maximum level set for candy.

Yeah, but come on. That limit is set for something kids may eat every day. Kids are not going to eat tubes of lipstick every day. “Nevertheless, it is generally accepted that there is no safe level of (lead) intake.” Ideally, we should get contaminant levels down to zero. And look, as a consumer group pointed out, a quarter of the lipsticks were lead-free, so we know it can be done. So, maybe we should better regulate toxic metals in cosmetics “to protect women’s health in the United States,” as has already been done in Europe. Fair enough.

The billion-dollar lipstick industry, however, wasn’t happy. In an article that tried to downplay the risks, the scientists-for-hire firm, that once played villain in the real-life Erin Brockovich case, concluded that “Although lipstick may contain (lead), the concentrations are so low that they would not be “expected to pose any health risks to adults or children.” Children’s blood (lead) levels are influenced more by background(lead) exposures (in the air/dust/water/food) than by lipstick exposures.”

Okay, but just because our environment is so contaminated doesn’t mean we need to add to the problem. In fact, because there’s so much lead around anyway, maybe it’s that much more reason to cut down on additional exposures. But they calculate that an adult would need “to apply lipstick over 30 times a day” to raise their blood lead level to even the most stringent limits, and 695 times a day to get blood levels up to more concerning levels.

Ah, but this was based on an assumption that lipstick would only have about one part per million lead, or at the extreme end maybe two or three. But by 2016, about ten times more lipsticks were tested, and they averaged nearly 500 parts per million, with 10 percent over 1,000, all the way up to 10,000, with more than one out of five exceeding FDA and even Chinese safety limits on lead in cosmetics.

Lip gloss was worse than lipstick; orange and pink had more lead than brown, red, or purple, and all the really contaminated ones were the cheaper ones—under five bucks.

But wait a second. 10,185 milligrams? That’s 10 grams per kilogram, which means the lipstick was 1 percent pure lead. That means a single application could expose a grown woman to perhaps 12 times the tolerable daily intake.

And if she’s interested in having children, then that poses a “particular concern,” as lead accumulates in your bones and “may [then] be released into the bloodstream during pregnancy,” where it can slip through the placenta or into breastmilk.

The good news is that the FDA is considering lowering the maximum allowable lead levels in lipstick from 20 to 10, something Canada arrived at a decade ago. But without enforcement, it doesn’t matter. Moving the legal limit from 20 down to 10 would just mean that instead of 23 percent of lip products exceeding legal levels, 27 percent would be exceeding legal levels. Right now, the limit’s 20. But what does it matter if there still may be products like these on store shelves?

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Below is an approximation of this video’s audio content. To see any graphs, charts, graphics, images, and quotes to which Dr. Greger may be referring, watch the above video.

Over the past years, the use of cosmetic products has evidently increased “at an alarming rate due to unending pursuit for individual beautification.” Nothing necessarily wrong with that, unless cosmetic products contained ingredients that may be linked to disease: ingredients such as toxic heavy metals, like lead. Lead has been found in a wide range of cosmetic products, from eye shadow to skin cream, foundation, blush. I talked about henna before. But, looking at the data, an important warning can be recognized—the presence of lead in lipsticks—because you end up inadvertently actually swallowing a little bit of it. It has been estimated that a woman may end up ingesting three pounds of lipstick over her lifetime; “moreover, lipsticks can be used by pregnant women or women of child bearing age.” Uh, duh.

Yes. “Lead is highly toxic;” but how much lead can there be in lipstick? Surely, it’s “a very minor source.” “Nonetheless, one should not exclude the fact that lead accumulates in the body..over time, and [so] repetitive lead-containing lipstick…application [might] lead to significant exposure.” But, you don’t really know…until you put it to the test.

Thirty-two lipsticks and lip glosses tested, and lead was detected in three-fourths of the products, suggesting “public health concerns.” But how much lead did they find? About half exceeded the FDA-recommended maximum level set for candy.

Yeah, but come on. That limit is set for something kids may eat every day. Kids are not going to eat tubes of lipstick every day. “Nevertheless, it is generally accepted that there is no safe level of (lead) intake.” Ideally, we should get contaminant levels down to zero. And look, as a consumer group pointed out, a quarter of the lipsticks were lead-free, so we know it can be done. So, maybe we should better regulate toxic metals in cosmetics “to protect women’s health in the United States,” as has already been done in Europe. Fair enough.

The billion-dollar lipstick industry, however, wasn’t happy. In an article that tried to downplay the risks, the scientists-for-hire firm, that once played villain in the real-life Erin Brockovich case, concluded that “Although lipstick may contain (lead), the concentrations are so low that they would not be “expected to pose any health risks to adults or children.” Children’s blood (lead) levels are influenced more by background(lead) exposures (in the air/dust/water/food) than by lipstick exposures.”

Okay, but just because our environment is so contaminated doesn’t mean we need to add to the problem. In fact, because there’s so much lead around anyway, maybe it’s that much more reason to cut down on additional exposures. But they calculate that an adult would need “to apply lipstick over 30 times a day” to raise their blood lead level to even the most stringent limits, and 695 times a day to get blood levels up to more concerning levels.

Ah, but this was based on an assumption that lipstick would only have about one part per million lead, or at the extreme end maybe two or three. But by 2016, about ten times more lipsticks were tested, and they averaged nearly 500 parts per million, with 10 percent over 1,000, all the way up to 10,000, with more than one out of five exceeding FDA and even Chinese safety limits on lead in cosmetics.

Lip gloss was worse than lipstick; orange and pink had more lead than brown, red, or purple, and all the really contaminated ones were the cheaper ones—under five bucks.

But wait a second. 10,185 milligrams? That’s 10 grams per kilogram, which means the lipstick was 1 percent pure lead. That means a single application could expose a grown woman to perhaps 12 times the tolerable daily intake.

And if she’s interested in having children, then that poses a “particular concern,” as lead accumulates in your bones and “may [then] be released into the bloodstream during pregnancy,” where it can slip through the placenta or into breastmilk.

The good news is that the FDA is considering lowering the maximum allowable lead levels in lipstick from 20 to 10, something Canada arrived at a decade ago. But without enforcement, it doesn’t matter. Moving the legal limit from 20 down to 10 would just mean that instead of 23 percent of lip products exceeding legal levels, 27 percent would be exceeding legal levels. Right now, the limit’s 20. But what does it matter if there still may be products like these on store shelves?

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      1. Thanks, Barb…good to keep in mind.

        For years now, I’ve been using Clinique cake eyeliner, the kind you dip a wet brush into. I “artistically” draw eyeliner on top lid only. Doing the bottom as well would be too in-your-face for somebody well beyond teenybopper age. I’m not Twiggy, after all. :-)

        https://www.skincareconsumers.com/best-clinique-products/

        There are probably baddies in even Clnique, but I make sure to remove all sign of eye makeup with coconut oil at the end of the day. I’ve never used foundation or blush on my face. Maybe a tiny dab of Coverstick concealer,(Mabelline) once in a while.

        1. For years now, I’ve been using Clinique cake eyeliner, the kind you dip a wet brush into. I “artistically” draw eyeliner on top lid only. Doing the bottom as well would be too in-your-face for somebody well beyond teenybopper age. I’m not Twiggy, after all. :-)
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          How about using Activated Charcoal? Did some experimenting (makeup for a future movie shoot) with adding a little water to some of the powder. Didn’t actually try it but the consistency looked like it would do just fine.

          Should be easy to remove as well after it dries.

          1. “Did some experimenting (makeup for a future movie shoot)”

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            Hey now, is this all you’re going to say about that intriguing bit? Future movie shoot?

            1. Hey now, is this all you’re going to say about that intriguing bit? Future movie shoot?
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              Yeah, just threw that in so you wouldn’t think I was going all Alice Cooper or Gene Simmons. ‘-)

              Some years ago I went through a high intensity flash of creativity and formed the basis for about ten movie scripts (13 if the Imam’s Daughter one gets made into a trilogy)

              Since that time I have been working toward getting up to speed with equipment (where I live there are no rental houses and I’ve spent beyond disposable income to accumulate camera equipment etc.) and knowledge. Thankfully I am not professionally trained which has allowed me to actually do things differently… and I think better in some ways.

              The first one I wrote with low budget in mind (not a lot of locations or action scenes… dialog driven.) Even bought an expensive 8k camera that wasn’t delivered until almost three years later. 8k has become rather common place lately so I’m in the process of selling that expensive beast at a loss.

              Made that decision after realizing I can do better with an array of camera/phones called a Media Machine. Probably will shoot in arrays of 4 in a square arrangement. After stitching the output together, I will then have a 16k image that I can pick and choose any part of the big picture to edit as 4k for exhibition.

              I’ve got 12 of these currently (boxes stacked halfway to the ceiling) so I’ll create arrays of four with their onboard 4k cameras spaced at different distances apart. That should allow me 3 camera arrays with different fields of view since the cameras are fixed, and that will give me three choices in edit for each scene.

              Eventually hope to do a 12 camera array to stitch together to pull an IMAX (to the Max) sized exhibit from for future shoots.

              Sorry to limit the discussion to the “How to” rather than the stories themselves. I hope to keep them fresh rather than have someone get an idea from my explanation and trump one or more of my ideas.

              The first one will be entitled “Mission Incorporated” but don’t expect it will be available for viewing for up to a year from now. Hopefully mistaken and it comes earlier.

              1. ‘The first one will be entitled’

                heh, should have said “The first one will be titled…” It in no ways qualifies as being entitled. ‘-)

                1. WOWSIE….a creative genius in our midst! Way ta GO, Lonie! Good luck with the WIP.

                  I was paid “scale” back in the early nineties for playing an extra in “Robin Hood: Men in Tights” (Mel Brooks). So, um, if you ever need a dowager type, I won’t charge you much. :-)

                  1. I was paid “scale” back in the early nineties for playing an extra in “Robin Hood: Men in Tights” (Mel Brooks).
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                    I was an extra on “Friday Night Lights” so I understand your experience. One of the things I remember most about that was the food provided by Craft Services.

                    I think many actor types are very conscious about what they eat and I recall that the food they laid out was by and large fairly healthy. Yes there was meat but also a good balance of vegetables… and apples and oranges were provided during the breaks for us extras along with the usual suspects of soda or other packaged snacks.

                    I was still eating meat back then but not bread, so I would make myself a “sandwich” of whatever the meat was and some tomato slices, wrapped in a large lettuce leaf.
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                    So, um, if you ever need a dowager type, I won’t charge you much. :-)
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                    Duly noted. Nothing on the immediate front that might fit you but maybe in a future script. Since a writer is like a Virtual God who can create virtual people out of his or her imagination I could create a character for you, but this script is pretty much locked down as far as characters go, in order to control costs. Attitude wise I bet you would add to a story though. ‘-)

                2. Wow, Lonie, that is ambitious!

                  I am laughing because I loved working on the student films I got to work on and going to film festivals with them, but I was a “helper” person even when the ideas were my own. I helped people write scripts and books and I spent months in editing rooms and running sound and doing physical editing and sound mixing all without any training at all.

                  I came back here and had friends do cable access. I had friends on both coasts do cable access programs and ended up running video and sound for church, but I read your sentences and still can’t really understand them, except that you are a seriously creative person and you are trying to pull a Rodriguez.

                    1. Lonie,

                      I am seriously impressed and I say that whether it takes you a year or 10 years and that may sound pessimistic, but film students spend months on their short films. They often spend years re-writing their scripts and that is with formal instruction.

                    2. I laugh that Dr Greger is putting in serious time on a book that will come out a year from now and you are giving the same time frame.

                      If you finish a script, celebrate! If you finish shooting it with camera, celebrate that. If you finish editing the first one celebrate that. If it takes you longer than a year, don’t sweat it.

                    3. I helped people write scripts and books and I spent months in editing rooms and running sound and doing physical editing and sound mixing all without any training at all.
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                      Deb, you are one of those people who are indispensable to a production who may get a small credit in the Title Roll, but actually deserve more recognition. I think that is different here on NF.o because research is what we are here for and those of you who do the sleuthing are known and appreciated.

                      I too am proceeding without any formal training, but in fact I have been training through reading of other’s experiences and trial and error on small shoots for others or just personal stuff that I tried to make appear professional.

                      Also, by using imagination of things I plan to do that may sort of revolutionary (like shooting a movie in a way that allows the audience to choose which character to follow as they watch it.) I don’t mind revealing that as it has been proposed in the past and is out there in the ether already. ‘-)

                      But back on topic, you really do a service to those of us who follow your contributions to NF.o by weaving your information into a story. Content is King!
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                      …and you are trying to pull a Rodriguez.
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                      Hadn’t thought of it that way, but in many respects you are correct. Just hope I have his success.

                    4. Is 8K Super 8? If do, then, yes, film students use that, but I think it is old school.
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                      No, 8k is resolution.

                      Most TVs are 1080p (p meaning each frame is captured immediately as opposed to interlaced which is captured approx. a half a frame at a time and quickly put together.) 1080 is roughly 1k. 8k is only available for viewing in VERY expensive TVs. Someday it will be the norm. The Japanese will be the first to have it widespread, during the next Olympics. 4k TVs are becoming the norm worldwide though. I have two of them that I use for editing.

                    5. If it takes you longer than a year, don’t sweat it.
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                      I’ve learned patience both in the pursuit of good health and longevity and in my work. If I get impatient that things aren’t progressing fast enough I step back and regroup… you know, breathe through my nose rather than through my mouth. ‘-)

                    6. Thanks for the answers!

                      I admire that you are trying something revolutionary!

                      That is cool!

                      Cool that you have 4 K to edit on.

                      Honestly, we were splicing film more than anything. It was a blast though. Later, I did some work on Avid as that became more popular. On this coast, it was equipment at cable access companies and churches.

                      California coast was long ago and far away.

                      It really was a blast!

                      My closest friends project, which I helped on every single thing, made it to maybe 4 film festivals, and I laugh, because I ended up speaking to a class in Chicago during the Chicago film festival. Pretty cool for someone who never went to film school.

        2. Nice YR! I always liked Clinique and Estee Lauder, though I have been checking up from time to time on Environmental Working Group database to see what’s good, and what’s not. The makeup section is detailed and individual products are searchable. Sunscreens too. https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/browse/lip+gloss/ Mineral Fusion is a brand that rates well, though there are many.

  1. Glad now I could never stand lipstick. We slather more chemicals and products onto ourselves without ever being conscious of the harms, compounded by what we ingest, then wonder why we are getting progressively more illnesses.

    1. Agreed, and no thought to the fact that these things end up back in the environment. I just watched a special on not only how dangerous chemical sunscreens are, but how great of a threat they are to the oceans and it all goes back into the ocean.

  2. I am not sure if you heard of or read a book called It’s Ok to Have Lead in Your Lipstick by By (author) Perry Romanowski , By (author) Randy Schueller. I haven’t read but just heard of. I know that Perry has podcasts called the Beauty Brains. https://thebeautybrains.com/about/

    If you have read the book or heard the podcasts, I am not sure your thoughts on this?

    1. Jenn, my personal opinion is that I wouldn’t believe any book that said it was ok to have lead in anything I ate, drank, put on my body, or breathed in.

      I mean, you heard what the science says – no amount of lead is safe. Period.

    2. My opinion is any ***h*** who writes a book on how it’s OK to have lead in something, is demented and likely has something to gain and lose from the subject at hand.

    3. Jenn,

      I clicked on the link and went to the site and looked at it and the first thing I read was:

      “Should you use a skin cream made with your own blood? Episode 165”

      That might be a little too fascinating for me.

    4. I love their blog actually, it’s a great science-based approach to beauty products in the vein of Dr. Greger (they are both cosmetics chemists!). If you want to know what ingredients are actually effective for dry skin or dandruff or something, that is the place to go. I’m pretty sure though, their analysis is based on much lower figures for lead like the one in the Monnot paper. I doubt they would think 10,000 ppm of lead is OK. Also, they probably aren’t savvy enough to look into the funding sources for each study.

  3. I haven’t worn lipstick for over a decade. The only reason why I wore it before is because I got it for free from friends & relatives who work in the industry.

    1. Nancy,

      I wore it once or twice but felt so self-conscious and uncomfortable.

      My mind started singing, “You don’t make me feel like a natural woman….”

  4. Holy smokes! I have got to do some research and use a brand with no lead. Thanks Dr. Greger, I had no idea about lead in lipstick!

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  5. So glad I do not put that crap on my face… I can’t imagine it’s very good for the skin for a plethora of reasons which is ironic considering its purpose is to “beautify.” To me, beauty is only as beautiful as it is natural and real beautification is health and looking our best through optimal health. I’m not saying I’m make-up free (though I am most of the time), but I personally disdain even the idea of foundation or rather layers of different foundations and cover ups and such and fussing over eye shadow or anything like that, like we’re not allowed to have a flaw… I own an eye liner, a mascara, and a lipstick but they’re all from 100% Pure and all from fruit and plants… great quality, definitely more expensive than drug store stuff but worth it and since I don’t wear a lot of make up when I do wear it, it’s not so costly.
    I’m not trying to sound judge-y at all about those who do like to wear more makeup but I do have some opinions on what is depicted as “beautiful” and the images pushed on us and believe that we’ve all been indoctrinated to a great degree and made to feel we need to aspire to an unattainable look that can only be achieved through artificial and inauthentic means such as… cover up. Who says that’s what’s beautiful? Oh yeah, society. Air brushing sends a powerful message and it works well.
    And my attitude is, who am I trying to impress? At the end of the day, I’m the one who washes my face and looks at myself, and that is the image I want to be happy with.

    And a special shout out to all the popular mascara brands out there that used to burn the crap out of my eyes. I also don’t miss lip gloss getting in my air.

    1. S,

      I am intrigued by the plant-based make-up.

      I actually don’t wear almost any of it 99% of the time. Minerals at baby showers and weddings.

      But this video does affect me because lip gloss would be something I would use.

      Wait, is there lead in Vaseline? Because that is what I really use most of the time.

      But, this affects Christmas that “Lip gloss was worse than lipstick; orange and pink had more lead than brown, red, or purple, and all the really contaminated ones were the cheaper ones—under five bucks.”

      But I have used lip gloss and they do flavored ones for kids and those under $5 ones are what people give in stocking stuffers and pink is the girlie color, which my 8-year-old pal will probably get in her Christmas stocking if I don’t say something. She gifted me with a cherry blow pop one a month ago.

      1. Good point about the flavors, Deb! I used to get lip glosses as stocking stuffers, too. And with the really glossy gel types, those are far more likely to be indirectly ingested because they get everywhere.

        I wouldn’t imagine there’s lead in petroleum jelly, I think Dr. Greger uses it or at least talked about its benefits in one video. I personally do not like it. Another thing you can do for lip gloss is use Buddha Butter chapstick which works really well at adding shine like a lip gloss but is just made with raw and organic plant oils and shea butter and is palm oil free.

          1. Deb, no it’s not… sorry! I shouldn’t have said “chapstick” I’m really just used to the term. It’s just lip balm and the company is called Buddha Butter, they make lip balm, bar soap (I used their soap), and body butter… I don’t know if they make anything else.

    1. Maybe just carry a little bottle of beet juice instead, for applying throughout the day. I know each time I drink some beet juice my lips look all girly.

        1. Lol, you’re in fine form today, Lonie.
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          Heh, even when I’m serious some think I’m joking. ‘-)

      1. Lonie, it’s not just drinking beet juice. Eating lots of vegetables and fruit seems to make the red and yellow veggie colors come out in the skin. I’ve been asked what brand of lipstick and make-up I use.
        It’s those 10 or so servings a day.

        1. Lonie, it’s not just drinking beet juice. Eating lots of vegetables and fruit seems to make the red and yellow veggie colors come out in the skin.
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          Marilyn, I’m saying rub some beet juice on your lips in lieu of using lipstick. Your lips will look rosy and naturally so. A woman’s lips (and cheeks) get a red blush which relays a message to a man that she is fecund and interested.

          Lip stick and rouge were meant to emulate that condition so a man would intuitively find her attractive. Of course now-a-days the younger set just want it to send the message that the black paint on her lips means she is just gothic. ‘-)

    2. Karen,

      I can’t post the link again because my copy & paste on my phone only works once in a blue moon, but I have posted it in this thread. Scroll up.

  6. I stopped wearing make-up years ago, and wore it as little as possible before that — and the only reason was social pressure, to “look professional.” For me, it was all too much effort and time to shop for it, put it on, take it off….plus, it made my eyes itch. And I couldn’t scratch my face. If guys don’t wear it, why should the gals have to?

    If you like wearing it, that’s fine. Though I confess I wonder why women do like wearing it. But no woman should feel forced to wear it. That is a huge problem.

    Truthfully, the whole beauty industry mystifies me. Neat, tidy, and clean should be enough. Healthy is a huge plus, so eat a good diet, don’t smoke, don’t drink alcohol (much), and exercise: that should do it.

    (In fact, I never liked the whole bra, girdle + nylons/pantyhose, heels, etc stuff. Too restricting and confining: it felt like hobbling. I loved having a job where I could wear jeans and T-shirts to work. The rest was donned only under social duress aka social pressure.)

    1. S, Deb, & Dr. J, I know what you mean. Makeup was fun & creative when I was in my 20s & 30s. And I had all the makeup I could ever want and way more than I would ever wear. It was fun to pick out samples and prototypes, etc., that my friends & relatives would bring me, from the high end big name stuff to the cheap & cheerful stuff. It was like Christmas. I even had a prototype lipstick that was made specifically for me, for my complexion. It was never chosen to be part of the new line they were launching, but they gave me all the prototypes. And even then, I only wore lipstick, eyeliner, mascara & only occasionally eye shadow & blush. I sometimes wore powder but never foundation. Hated the stuff. It made my face feel dirty. Same with sunscreen.

      When I hit my early 40s, makeup started to become a drag. Especially as I learned more & more about what was behind it all, the marketing, etc., and especially the skincare end of the industry, which really should be called the snake oil industry.

      Now that I’m in my 50s, I think makeup as a total waste of my time. I can still get it for free, but I have no interest in it whatsoever.

      1. I feel the same way about how it makes the skin feel, it’s so uncomfortable I don’t know how people can stand it. Same with me about sunscreen, I only wear natural sunscreen if I’m swimming in peak hours or something and even then I put most of my stock in my diet to keep my skin working well with the sun.

      2. Nancy,

        You could get it for free and don’t wear it makes me smile.

        I think the end of high school is when I wanted to wear it and you are right that it was creative. I wonder how many people are looking at old photos of themselves with blue eyeshadow and wanting to crawl under the table?

        I mostly still might use it to cover something up. Not daily, but events. As a teen, I used it when I had a blemish or bruise.

        If I ever get a black eye again, then I can get some.

        It is too expensive for me and I agree that it feels dirty and I would come home late and fall asleep without remembering to wash it off.

    1. Probably so, Lonie. I wouldn’t let it stop you from streaking your neighbors’ windows at Halloween time, though. You know…in lieu of soap.

      1. wouldn’t let it stop you from streaking your neighbors’ windows at Halloween time, though. You know…in lieu of soap.
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        Don’t have either one… which one is cheaper? ‘-)
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        OBTW, aren’t lips subject to assimilation? it’s always been my understanding that lips, like other skin, could absorb stuff. I know it sure can absorb capsaican.

        1. “Don’t have either one… which one is cheaper? ‘-)

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          “Either” could include windows, neighbors, lipstick and soap. If you have no neighbors, maybe it’s ’cause you have no soap. If y’get my drift.

          “If you build it, they will come.” if indeed you’re a lonely ol’ cuss looking for neighbors, I’d opt for the soap. Just make sure it’s not full of lead. ;-)

          1. if indeed you’re a lonely ol’ cuss looking for neighbors, I’d opt for the soap.
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            neighbors? I’ve got one a half mile away to the west… one a half mile to the east and one between them and me. The two half-milers I see maybe once every two years… the one closest every couple of months.

            Lonely? I’m thinking of sellin’ out and movin’ so I can get some peace and quiet and not have to be interrupted so often by neighbors visitin’.

            Oh, and because I have gumption I don’t smell bad from doing without soap. A skin exfoliation using Guava leaf tea and a dash of lavender water under the arm pits when going to town for my weekly grocery shopping, filling my glass water jugs with RO water, and coffee shop (tea) meeting with a couple of friends. ‘-)

            My (tea) cup runneth over.

                1. Laughing at all of you.

                  Yes, it is like the companies, which named themselves, “I don’t care” and “It doesn’t matter” so they could get their share of the loot of the ones who let someone else choose for them.

                  Too cold to streak on Halloween. Brrrr.

                  Near me, a local restaurant buys cases of biodegradable toilet paper and has contraptions to shoot them onto their very big tree every the day before Halloween. Anyway, it is how they make money off of all of the adults who wanted to do stuff like that when they were kids. (Yes, the adults buy the food and get a free roll of toilet paper.)

                  1. It is a little bit convoluted, but I think I mentally linked it because of “bucket list” and “Halloween” and watching the toilet paper event was mentally going back to an episode of Northern Exposure from years ago when they did a “bucket list piano fling”…

                    Yes, my brain really works like that.

                  2. YR said:
                    wouldn’t let it stop you from streaking your neighbors’ windows at Halloween time, though.
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                    Deb said:
                    Too cold to streak on Halloween. Brrrr.
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                    me:
                    I am rolling on the floor laughing at the misinterpretation!!! ‘-) ‘-) ‘-)

      1. No Lonie, I don’t think you should ever remove the important bucket list items.
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        Heh, Deb… no worries. If I take something out I replace it with at least two more. ‘-)

    1. But what about putting mercury inside your mouth?
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      Excellent point. I once told a dentist I didn’t want mercury amalgum fillings. He told me that the other stuff was just as bad or worse. I quit going to dentists. Teeth are in bad shape but I think my whole body health is better since I lost or had pulled, all the filling teeth.

      1. “He told me that the other stuff was just as bad or worse.”

        Wow, Lonie… scary these people are given an authority over the health of their patients…

        1. Wow, Lonie… scary these people are given an authority over the health of their patients…
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          It is scary, but to me, even scarier that populations choose to allow them the authority rather than take control themselves. I think they could have been excused for doing that some years ago, but since the Internet has become accessible to so many, the information is there for the taking.

          Of course one has to pass judgement on the information and sometimes they/we accept the wrong information as our course. But we can make a bad choice and change direction if we are aware of our own condition and can spot a bad course.

          The dentist I mentioned actually had no other courses of action to fill a cavity, so I hold him harmless. Hopefully (and with good reason) I think we will be able to grow new teeth before too much longer. I’m waiting for that before letting a dentist pull what’s left of my broken teeth since we lose jawbone once a tooth is removed. I don’t want implants… just real regrown ivory. ‘-)

          1. Lol, good luck with the tooth re-growth! Would be pretty awesome if that could happen.

            Yeah that was my first thought, that that was all he offered… shameless.

            I fully agree about taking initiate given we have access to so much information and it’s also true that it gets confusing because the interment (and world in general) is equally polluted with misinformation. But that’s what I love about people like Dr. Greger and places like Nutritionfacts.org, you don’t have to take their word and they teach you not to and to look for the real evidence and why that’s so important and how to do so. Still, I’ve given lots of people links and suggested books and videos and explained some of this to them and some just don’t seem to want to learn but do seem to want to continue reading propaganda that tells them about the miracle cures their product will offer without having to make any real changes in their life… Sorry for my tangent, but it is frustrating.

            1. Scientists have already succeeded at growing teeth from stem cells, using 3-D laser printing, I believe it was. They didn’t say 3-D laser printing in the article I read, they said, “lasers” but I am guessing 3-D laser printing. Could be wrong about that.

              One of the gadget regeneration technologies, which I researched ages ago had a “side effect” of teeth growing back, but they said it was only when there wasn’t a dead root. Trying to remember if that was PEMF or Low-Level Laser or something else.

              I just remember that it was if you didn’t have to have the root killed, people were having a side effect of having their teeth regrow.

              Boy, that was a long time ago.

              1. One of the gadget regeneration technologies, which I researched ages ago had a “side effect” of teeth growing back…
                Boy, that was a long time ago.
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                Really was a long time ago. I remember reading they expected the process to be perfected within a decade… I think I read that more than a decade ago. ‘-)

              2. Interesting stuff. Reminds me of something I watched on how they figured out how to regrow skin but the problem was they couldn’t control the growth of cancer cells along with it.

      2. Worse than mercury fillings vaporising constantly during an entire life in the mouth? No way and not even close, for details, see the scientific documentary “evidence of harm”.

        1. Calling it a “scientific documentary” is being overcharitable.

          Every YouTube video by crackpots, cranks and people selling sensational pseucdoscience books describes itself as a (scientific) documentary.

          This is not a scientific documentary/ It is a highly partisan advocacy video.

  7. Hello Dr. Gregor, i would really appreciate if you could make a video about RCE (Recurrent cornel Erosion) , I have this condition from an eye injury and the pain level when the eye lid sticks to the cornea and when a person opens their eye it tears it and makes people suffer from unbearable pain! This condition is common with cornea injuries , but doctors never talk about nutrition or diet which would help the cornea to heal, only laser Operations are offered , which also do not guarantee the positive outcome. I have to either do that Operation and home for the best or put eye gel all the time and especially at night not having a decent sleep ever. I really hope there is any research you could share , which naturally helps to fight this condition.
    Thanks in advance!

    1. LOL!

      My brothers feel the same way. I am surrounded by blue collar workers and they all would applaud the sentence, but my professional friends and their loved ones would disagree.

      I just genuinely felt like wearing caused me to have undo focus on my lips, which I never think about except for kissing or when they are chapped. Lipstick caused me to walk around thinking about my lips. I did not like that one bit.

      1. I am not even kidding about that. I put it on and went someplace and it was like when you wake up and have someone to kiss, but aren’t sure about your breath and it becomes a habit to focus there first thing when your eyes open. Second thing after peeing.

      2. “Lipstick caused me to walk around thinking about my lips. I did not like that one bit.”
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        Deb, didn’t you say you were sexually abused as a child? Could there be a connection somehow?

  8. Several years ago when I discovered all the bad ingredients in toothpaste, I changed to a plant-based product. Then I stopped using perfume. These changes went along with changing to whole food plant based nutrition. I haven’t yet given up coloring my hair.

    I attended a vegan expo last year and found a brand of lipstick that disclosed the ingredients and no lead.
    Castor oil, coconut oil, shea butter, carnuba wax, ceresun, candelilla wax, theobromo cacao seed butter, simmonsia chinensis (jojaba), seed oil, tocopherol acetate, fragrance, and “could contain some of the following” — ci 15850, ci 45380, ci17200, ci45370, ci15985, ci19140, ci77891, ci77491/2/9, ci77019. After viewing the video today, my search revealed that those numbered ingredients are artificial colorants, one is mica, and one is a coal tar derivative.

    I threw out mascara, eye shadow, and liquid foundation. Lipstick is destined for the garbage soon. I use an eyebrow pencil which probably contains petroleum and a cover stick. We women use these products all our lives and pay a price for it, not only in terms of dollars spent.

    1. Agree, Janis. Even the vast majority of “natural” products out there contain a slew of unnatural chemicals. There are SOME, if you search though, that actually are natural, but a lot of them have beeswax and palm oil which are no-goes for me for ethical reasons.

      I own 1 lipstick from the company 100% Pure and I’m really happy with the ingredients which are as follows: organic cocoa seed butter, shea butter, extracts of cherry fruit, plum fruit, cabernet grape fruit, raspberry fruit, blueberry fruit, blackberry fruit, peach fruit, apricot fruit, tomato fruit/seed/stem, pomegranate, cacao, rose petals, lavender flower/leaf/stem, rice starch, vitamin E, candelilla wax, silica, rosemary leaf extract. And some of the ingredients are certified organic.

      1. S,

        Are you a real vegan?

        Wow!

        Or is it more environmental concerns?

        I do worry about the birds and the bees. Mass die-offs can never be good.

        Can you tell me your logic? I like hearing other people’s reasoning.

        1. Deb,

          yes I am a real vegan. My moral and ethical concerns are first and foremost for the animals, but the environment is hugely important to me for the same reasons it should be to everyone, and as it goes, to care about the animals, caring about the environment is a must. So for the bees, it’s due to the treatment of bees and the use of animals and taking from them what they’ve worked so hard for. Here’s a great video on what happens to bees for their products: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0N8UYgMGDQ And incidentally, as you can see from the video, these industries actually do kill millions of bees which is horrible for the environment.

          For palm oil, it’s really hand-in-hand… It’s one of the most destructive industries on the planet and one of the cruelest both directly and indirectly. The indirect cruelty to the animals goes along with the HORRIFIC amount of deforestation for palm oil–entire rain forests burned to the ground and peatlands destroyed, the numbers are horrifying and entire countries are being destroyed over it. It’s also a growing industry, there’s no such thing as “sustainable” palm oil, that was actually an advertising pitch created by organizations like the round table which was created BY the biggest buyers of palm oil in the first place. There are even fake organizations boasting animal welfare and urging people NOT to boycott palm oil and when dug into, the people running those organizations have ties to the palm oil industry. Unfortuantely, the industry’s spiel of “sustainable/ethical palm oil” worked very well and palm oil has grown substantially since as people felt good about buying it just when they were starting to boycott.

          What happens to the animals during the mass deforestations is horrific… baby orangutans with third degree burns clung to their dead mothers covered in burns, limbs sliced off of animals during the deforestation and so on.
          What happens to the animals DIRECTLY and purposefully on the palm oil plantations is that the surviving animals have little to nowhere else to go for shelter and food, so they try to find refuge on the plantations where their homes and food source once stood, so they’re considered pests to the industry and are killed in horrific ways from everything to being bludgeoned to death to having fake poisonous palm fruit hung in the trees so when animals such as elephants try to feed themselves and their babies, they’re poisoned to death. It’s so bad that due to the surviving “pest” orangutans, trafficking of them was born where female orangutans were enslaved and sold for humans to rape and males used in other ways. It sounds insane, but it’s actually true. And obviously orangutans and elephants are not the only animals destroyed and brutalized.

          Even humans are victims in horrible ways. They’ve had their land stolen from them, have to breath in the toxic fumes from the constant purposefully induced wildfires and the ones that were “accidental” from the constant purposefully induced wildfires for sake of clearing land. And there is human slave labor violations that no one cares about–people are forced into doing slave labor for palm oil production because there’s nothing left for them in these countries. I once helped circulate a petition where the people of Borneo were begging for the end of the production of palm oil.

          Oh and you may notice WWF certifying sustainability. Well they’re one of the most notorious CONservation groups and they make huge profits. They have ties with the palm oil industry and have been corrupt from the beginning in general. There was even a book written about them that they worked hard and spent a lot of money to have banned. They were actually created by trophy hunters and many of their leaders to this day “hunt” endangered wildlife. So the way they’re able to hand out these certificates of “sustainability” is simply because they conned their way to have the power to do so and all they have to do is deem a rainforest or piece of land as unimportant, and voila! there’s your certificate of sustainability.

          1. S,

            Thanks for sharing from your heart. I was familiar with some of it, but much of it is new to me. I knew pretty much nothing about Palm Oil except to not eat foods which have it in.

            It is something to rightfully be passionate about. The deforestation is such a hard situation and the concept that there are males perverted in ways that they buy orangutans to rape does not surprise me at all, neither does the forcing populations into being slave labor.

            I was pondering how likely that will be happening more often as the global economy becomes more divided with a wider and wider gap.

            When I look at vulnerable populations, it is heart breaking that people would even think to do any of it.

            1. No problem, Deb. And thanks for caring! I wish more would be as thoughtful as you about things.

              I don’t understand how people can do any of it either and I also don’t understand how so much of the world is able and willing to turn their backs on these things and continue to partake in them.

    2. Janis,

      Yes coal tar!

      I never really wore make-up and was wildly allergic to perfume and even baby oil. I would get such bad rashes whenever I used any product with baby oil in and the sensitive skin products always had it in.

      I was at the store tonight and ended up smelling all of the essential oil soaps and hand sanitizers.

      Wondering if essential oil hand sanitizers would be good or just as bad. Seems like the antibacterial things aren’t good for us. Is it better killing things with essential oils or not?

      I know Dr Greger did suggest them at the grocery store because of the carts being covered with chicken germs, but my mind is divided between that and mouthwash and antibacterial soap logic.

  9. I am up at night and all the ads are about amputations related to medicine.

    Amputation of genitals was one of them.
    Amputation of legs. Amputation of toes.

    Viscerally traumatizing.

    People are having their genitals cut off because of their Diabetes meds!

    WFPB needs its own ad in the middle of the night.

    1. Deb, don’t read those ads! Ever. Not just not in the middle of the night.

      Though your comment reminds me of my brother, who a year or two ago tried to persuade a friend of his, overweight and diabetic, to change his eating to plant based whole foods, since it was effective for my brother, who had also been overweight, and out of shape, and was on several meds, including for diabetes. After changing first to vegetarian and then to wfpb eating (and starting to exercise), he eventually lost about 70 pounds and went off all his meds. Well, his friend was having none of it — and recently had his foot amputated. Both were very depressed, my brother because he wasn’t able to help his friend.

      I really wish I knew what persuades people to change to healthier habits. For my brother, it was a diabetes diagnosis; I think he read about the complications, and was scared of his future, so he decided to change. But that didn’t work for his friend.

      1. Dr. J.

        It isn’t working for any of the people around me. I am watching people go in and out of the hospital every other week and it has not changed anything. Physical and Emotional pain and Cancer and Heart Disease and Diabetes and Stroke and Surgery and Amputation nothing at all if affecting their eating. Partly because there is an alternate diet called Keto, which they feel better able to do.

        It is more than painful to watch people dying. Eating You Alive, a man lost his entire family and changed his own behavior. There is a pretty good chance that I will lose my family and friends and coworkers. It is just the way it is. Prayer is what I have to work with.

        1. I think I don’t do the same logic other people do.

          I see it as very wealthy and powerful people have hijacked my friends and relatives and brain-washed them.

          I am the one who might save their lives, but only if I love them and don’t get in a power struggle with them and don’t do a cold-hearted, competitive “I am smarter than you are about this” type of process.

  10. I’m not sure if it’s Ok to talk about specific brands in this section, but I use a lip balm from “Burt Bees” and I’m concerned that it might contain lead too. This is what I’ve found in their FAQs section (Actually it’s about lipsticks)

    “I’ve read that there is lead in lipsticks. Are your lip colour products safe?”

    “Burt’s Bees natural lip color products are composed of botanical oils, waxes, butters, extracts, and essential oils. To impart a variety of shades and effects, we use primarily mineral-based pigments. The mineral-based pigments used in our lip color products are in compliance with global regulatory guidance and legal limits. We adhere to the most rigorous standards set forth by global regulatory bodies. We continue to closely monitor emerging studies and evolving safety standards set forth by the scientific and regulatory communities to ensure the quality and efficacy of our products.”

    Nowhere in their statement says that this particular product is lead free, so I wonder if the same goes too for their lip balms

    Does anyone use this brand? Can they be trusted?

    1. Federico, have you contacted the and asked if they actually test for lead/heavy metal levels? They make it SOUND like they do, so what you should do is ask to see their results. I’ve had companies send me their result chart before without even having to ask, I see no read they couldn’t do the same unless they’d prefer you not to see or if they don’t exist because they don’t actually test for it.

    2. Frederico,

      Burt’s Bees is owned by Clorox. This link was posted above, and you can scroll through the Data Table section to see if your product is listed. https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/productsingredients/products/ucm137224.htm#expanded_survey

      Bear in mind this is just a small sampling list. In the past day I have seen a few lists, all different, with many companies and products listed. Short answer, yes their products contain lead, different colours contain varying amounts. Check out Environmental Working Group cosmetic data base for more info.

  11. I was watching the news tonight and laughed because 1/4 of young people “sleep text” their friends and don’t remember it.

    And kids who go to school at an earlier age are more likely to be diagnosed ADHD. Surprise, surprise.

    I can already tell you that people who are feeling ashamed because of bullying are way more likely to be diagnosed Autistic and that for those kids, versus hard core autism, they get better just bringing them under someone who isn’t authoritative or bullying.

    I have a man who is working for me who has totally lost his autism symptoms in 2 months. His mother also left his emotionally abusive father who always told him that he was a loser and would never amount to anything.

    I don’t even understand that he was being diagnosed rather than helped, but that is the way things work.

  12. They have to do sleep texting as a sleep study because it could just be like butt dialing.

    If people are sleeping with their cell phone on their pillow, there might be more Cancer cases for this next generation.

  13. I ended up watching the documentary on The Space Men on PBS.

    Watching the scientists jumping out at 11,000 feet to see if a multistage parachute would work or slamming to a stop testing the theory on G-Force, they were crazy brave people. Crazy brave.

  14. They should do a study comparing between the general population and “Holiness Christians”. They do not wear makeup or hair styling products ever as it is an offense to the Almighty to tamper with the beauty He created for them.

    I’m not Holiness, but I was not allowed to wear makeup until 8th grade (except for stage makeup). I had fun with it for a couple of years, but felt it was a big waste of time, attention, and money, and I stopped as a freshman in college (except for job interviews and my wedding). Those suckers. They hired me all dolled up, and then I came into work with plain hair and no make-up every day after that. Good thing I am good at my job(s)! It makes me angry that my beauty had anything to do with their decisions to hire me, when beauty had nothing to do with my ability to excel in the position I was hired for. Screw them!

  15. FOR A LIST OF COSMETICS RECOMMENDED (limited in the number of brands tested) by the Environmental Working Group (EWR.ORG). I have tried the recommended MINERAL FUSION brand of lipsticks and until I find better with more color choices, these are what I use. Different colors are smoother or longer-lasting than other colors. I found my closest see-for-yourself source is at SPROUTS grocery store. I shudder to think how much lead I have ingested over 45 years of Revlon lipstick — wearing even to the gym! Thanks for the reference to the FDA, Deb 24-weeks.

    https://www.fda.gov/cosmetics/productsingredients/products/ucm137224.htm#expanded_survey

    I found it interesting to read the previous comments with lots of hating on makeup and so many judgments. True, it is that I have fondly remembered and quoted a dear friend who once said what she most loved about turning 50 was that she no longer had to dress in drag for work nor for fun.

    Being a costuming, playful, woman who enjoys much of the classic feminine (think back all the way to Crete) with a PhD and lots of intellectual curiosity, I have had to choose how and where to wear what makeup.

    I would like to give a shout-out to women who like makeup and, at the same time, admit that when I see Amy Goodman on “Democracy Now” (PBS-TV) whom I have admired since her late 90s radio show, sometimes I wish for a world in which no one ever wears makeup!

    ” Let a thousand flowers bloom.” Who said that first?

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