Juicing Removes More than Just Fiber

Juicing Removes More than Just Fiber
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The majority of polyphenol phytonutrients may be bound to fiber, helping to explain the marked difference in health impacts between whole fruit and fruit juice.


Studies like this, in which Harvard researchers found the consumption of whole fruits such as blueberries, grapes, and apples was significantly associated with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes, whereas greater fruit juice consumption was associated with a higher risk, highlight the dramatic difference between eating whole fruits and just drinking fruit juice.

If you eat apples, your cholesterol drops, compared to drinking apple juice, but leave just a little of the fiber behind—cloudy apple juice—and it makes a difference.

We used to just think of fiber as just a bulking agent that help with bowel regularity. In fact you can get the same laxative effect with indigestible plastic particles. Feed people a couple spoonfuls of sliced polyvinyl tubing and you can increase stool bulk, frequency and consistency, so fiber was viewed as a similarly inert, indigestible substance.

But now we know fiber is digestible, by our gut bacteria, who make short chain fatty acids out of it, which have a number of health promoting effects, such as inhibiting the growth of bad bacteria, increasing mineral absorption—for example, experimentally infused into the rectum of the human body, they can stimulate calcium absorption. So much so you can improve the bone mineral density of teenagers just by giving them the fiber naturally found in foods like onions, asparagus, and bananas. Our good bacteria also use fiber to maintain normal bowel structure and function, preventing or alleviating colonic-based diarrhea, and stimulating colonic blood flow up to five-fold, as well as fluid and electrolyte uptake. The major fuel for the cells that line our colon is butyrate, which our good bacteria make from fiber. So we feed them and they feed us right back.

But if the only difference between fruit and fruit juice is fiber, why can’t the juice industry just add some fiber back to the juice, sprinkle in a little Metamucil. Why can’t juice with added fiber be equated with whole fruit? The reason is because we remove a lot more than fiber when we juice fruits and vegetables. We lost all the nutrients that are bound to the fiber.

Way back in the 80’s a study found a discrepancy as to the amount of fiber in carob using two different methods. There was a gap of 21.5% that was identified not as fiber but nonextractable polyphenols, a class of phytonutrients thought to have an array of health-promoting effects. In the light of these results, it is worth noting that some of the effects associated with the intake of dietary fiber in plants may actually be due to the presence of these polyphenols.

Nonextractable polyphenols, usually ignored, are the major part of dietary polyphenols. Most polyphenol phytonutrients in plants are locked to the fiber.

These so-called missing polyphenols make it down to our colon and are then liberated by our friendly flora, and can then get absorbed into our system. The phytonutrients in fruit and vegetable juice may just be the tip of the iceberg.

To see any graphs, charts, graphics, images, and quotes to which Dr. Greger may be referring, watch the above video. This is just an approximation of the audio contributed by Katie Schloer.

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Images thanks to las – initially via Flickr.

Studies like this, in which Harvard researchers found the consumption of whole fruits such as blueberries, grapes, and apples was significantly associated with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes, whereas greater fruit juice consumption was associated with a higher risk, highlight the dramatic difference between eating whole fruits and just drinking fruit juice.

If you eat apples, your cholesterol drops, compared to drinking apple juice, but leave just a little of the fiber behind—cloudy apple juice—and it makes a difference.

We used to just think of fiber as just a bulking agent that help with bowel regularity. In fact you can get the same laxative effect with indigestible plastic particles. Feed people a couple spoonfuls of sliced polyvinyl tubing and you can increase stool bulk, frequency and consistency, so fiber was viewed as a similarly inert, indigestible substance.

But now we know fiber is digestible, by our gut bacteria, who make short chain fatty acids out of it, which have a number of health promoting effects, such as inhibiting the growth of bad bacteria, increasing mineral absorption—for example, experimentally infused into the rectum of the human body, they can stimulate calcium absorption. So much so you can improve the bone mineral density of teenagers just by giving them the fiber naturally found in foods like onions, asparagus, and bananas. Our good bacteria also use fiber to maintain normal bowel structure and function, preventing or alleviating colonic-based diarrhea, and stimulating colonic blood flow up to five-fold, as well as fluid and electrolyte uptake. The major fuel for the cells that line our colon is butyrate, which our good bacteria make from fiber. So we feed them and they feed us right back.

But if the only difference between fruit and fruit juice is fiber, why can’t the juice industry just add some fiber back to the juice, sprinkle in a little Metamucil. Why can’t juice with added fiber be equated with whole fruit? The reason is because we remove a lot more than fiber when we juice fruits and vegetables. We lost all the nutrients that are bound to the fiber.

Way back in the 80’s a study found a discrepancy as to the amount of fiber in carob using two different methods. There was a gap of 21.5% that was identified not as fiber but nonextractable polyphenols, a class of phytonutrients thought to have an array of health-promoting effects. In the light of these results, it is worth noting that some of the effects associated with the intake of dietary fiber in plants may actually be due to the presence of these polyphenols.

Nonextractable polyphenols, usually ignored, are the major part of dietary polyphenols. Most polyphenol phytonutrients in plants are locked to the fiber.

These so-called missing polyphenols make it down to our colon and are then liberated by our friendly flora, and can then get absorbed into our system. The phytonutrients in fruit and vegetable juice may just be the tip of the iceberg.

To see any graphs, charts, graphics, images, and quotes to which Dr. Greger may be referring, watch the above video. This is just an approximation of the audio contributed by Katie Schloer.

Please consider volunteering to help out on the site.

Images thanks to las – initially via Flickr.

Doctor's Note

For those who like drinking their fruits and vegetables, this suggests smoothies are preferable. I can imagine people who eat really healthy thinking they get so much fiber from their regular diet that they need not concern themselves with the loss from juicing, but they may be losing more than they think.

Why are polyphenol phytonutrients important? See, for example, my video How to Slow Brain Aging by Two Years

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  1. Excellent presentation on a subject so widely discussed and debated. Reminds me of a phrase from the past: “Ain’t nothin like the REAL thing!”, i.e. The whole fruit and nothing but the whole fruit. God has done a magnificent job, as I often say, and there “ain’t” nothing you can do (most generally) to enhance it. As you have so ably taught us about the 100s/1000s of phytochemicals/phytonutrients in various foods, and realizing the massive complexitiy of the human body, it would seem essential to realize that our evolution over the eons has not changed that rapidly and we need that variety of fruits, vegetables, et.al. with all the goodies that are included in the original package. Thanks again for helping to understand such a delicious and essential topic. I start each of my weekday mornings checking your site, as I think that all of us, as eager students, should.

    1. Setting God aside for a minute, David, we can understand this a little better. Before we were humans we descended from primates, and during that time we had very large muscles in our head to work our jaws. This allowed us to graze on vegetables almost all day. Our digestion was also expecting this food, which was fine. However, very recently we lost a single gene of a pair http://home.gwu.edu/~sherwood/2006.MYH16.Reply.JHE.pdf which caused the muscles attached to our skulls to almost disappear overnight. This allowed our craniums to be much larger, but prevented us from chewing at the rate we were accustom. This forced us to consider sweater and meatier options, but our digestions and bodies had not adapted quickly enough for that transition. Clearly our bodies and digestions still need the large amount of vegetation, but our jaws can not deliver that much chewing. Fortunately, our enlarged brains have allowed us to create blenders and juicers to masticate the food for us. Still think God has done a magnificent job, David?

      1. I’m not at all religious but I really think your superior demeanor and deprecating commentary is irksome and unnecessary. The man made a simple comment, he wasn’t preaching nor denigrating, unlike yourself. Who appointed you resident pedagogue?

        1. I agree. I know the comments are kind of old by now, but seriously, just not necessary. And yes, some of us still think God has done an AMAZING job! :-)

        1. Ben: I saw a TED talk once on that topic. It was so interesting! (And compelling) I didn’t know there was a book on the same topic. Thanks for your post.

          1. Thea,

            Do you have any experience with taking digestive enzyme supplements? I know of some people who say they give them more energy, and some people who say these enzyme supplements messed up their guts and caused problems. I’d be thrilled to hear any experience of yours, or any science you are aware of as far as safety, Dr. G’s beliefs, et. Some people have guts that maybe don’t break down food perfectly, regardless of plant based or not. Beans are a struggle for me, regardless as to how prepared, as well as other starchy plant sources – potatoes, grains.

            1. Leslie: Interesting question. I don’t think anyone has asked me about that before. I have no personal experience with enzyme supplements, and I don’t know that much about the topic. But your post made me do some thinking.
              When I do a quick search on NutritionFacts for ‘enzyme’, http://nutritionfacts.org/?s=enzyme, I notice that the first video is “How To Suppress The Aging Enzyme TOR”. Hmmm, maybe not all enzymes are good. So, maybe we shouldn’t be taking enzyme supplements when we know that the content of supplements so often are not what the bottle says and are not well regulated. What if you get bad enzymes or good enzymes mutate or something? I’m just speculating here.
              The second thing I noticed on that page was a video I remember from before, “Sometimes the enzyme myth is true”, http://nutritionfacts.org/video/sometimes-the-enzyme-myth-is-true/. Here’s a quote that interests me: “There are two known examples of plant enzymes serving physiologically useful functions…” That’s only two. I remember reading from a couple sources (though I don’t know how valid those sources are or if I’m remembering correctly) that for the most part, we aren’t sure how many enzymes make it ‘alive’ to our gut when we eat raw plant foods. The video above mentions two instances where enzymes are known to be useful and goes into detail on one that is helpful when eaten. But I don’t know how much evidence we have in general on oral enzymes being helpful.
              Judging from your post, you are specifically looking for ways to help you digest beans, potatoes, and grains. I’m not sure what the relationship is between ‘enzymes’ and the helpful bacteria in our guts. But I understand that digestion is best helped by having a very healthy gut. If you don’t have one, how to get it? My understanding is that there are several steps people can take: 1 stay away from meat, dairy and eggs. 2 eat plant foods high in good probiotics, like sauerkraut and maybe water kefir (ask Charzie on this forum for more info on fermenting foods if interested. She seems to have a lot of practical experience). 3) eat prebiotics, which in your case is the problem if we are talking about foods like grains. But I’m thinking that you could *very* slowly build up your exposure to beans and grains. Start with small amounts spaced apart while also doing #1 and #2. Also start with the forms of those foods which are known to be easiest on digestion. For example, instead of the big beans, start with lentils since lentils are supposed to be easier for people to digest.
              I’m no expert and have no idea if these ideas will help you. This is really just general information I have picked up on this site and others regarding healthy guts and eating beans. Hopefully there is something in here that might help you.
              What do you think?

              1. Thea, interesting points you have brought up re: enzymes. Thanks so much. It would be good (I think) if Dr. G would dig deeper into this issue via studies/videos for us in 2016.

        1. What? Not sure what your point is David. There is nothing about evolution that suggests evolutionary predecessors must disappear. We’re that some arbitrary rule, there would only be ONE life form on earth. My guess is you could benefit from reading to obtain a better understanding of evolution.

          1. Scientists predict there will be 9 billion people on the earth by the year 2050. There are presently 7 billion people on the earth. When I was a kid, there were 5 billion people on the earth. In the year 1950, there were roughly 2.5 billion people on the earth. 2,000 years ago, there were 300 million people on the earth. Notice a trend? Figure it out. It all started with two. Nothing significant has changed in the overall process since.

              1. No actually it DOESN’T “work out nice for us”, or you, unless we admit that we’re wretched sinners & trust in the Lord Jesus’ sacrifice as payment for our sins, in which case we have a blessed life, & after our souls are separated from our body at “death” we spend eternity in Heaven (the best place in the Universe) while others (after “death”) spend all eternity in Hell (the worst place in the universe) because of their sins and rejection of the free gift of salvation offered to them by Christ (God the Son) sent to die for us by God the Father.
                Those that trust in Darwins theory think THEY “have it nice” because they can lie, cheat, steal, rape,murder & rut like an animal with anyone they can, and as long as they don’t get caught they don’t have to answer to anyone or be accountable to anyone, & then, when they die there’s only rest with no suffering etc.
                It all boils down to this: You people believe that in the beginning, nothing created everything, we believe that in the beginning GOD created everything.

            1. It started with two? And their children had incest sex with each other since there were no others yet? And let’s take the science of the bible, sure god knows his own creation? The bible says the earth is a flat circle, stationary in space, and that the moon is a light source. Also, Jesus was ok with slavery.

              1. Um, would you mind giving us a reference where you think you saw that in the Bible, like chapter & verse.
                I’ve read that when Science was claiming that the Earth was flat, Bible believing mariners ventured boldly toward the horizon because the Bible proclaimed In Isiah 40:22 that the Earth is a “circle” (what we would call a “globe”). Where do you see it described as “flat”?

                1. “That’s right, their children had “incest sex”, if they hadn’t there would never have been any more people, duh.”

                  Ha ha that’s not how life works.

                  “Um, would you mind giving us a reference where you think you saw the description of the Earth as a “flat circle, stationary in space” in the Bible, like chapter & verse?”

                  Flat earth
                  Job 38:13 “That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?”
                  (see also Deuteronomy 13:7, 28:49, 28:64, 33:17. Job 2:8, 19:4, 22:27, 33:13, 48:10, 59:13, 61:2, 65:5, 72:8)
                  Job 11:9 (heaven and hell’s measurements are) “Their measure is longer than the earth And broader than the sea”. There is no length in a sphere, only a flat two dimensional object, like a circle, would have a length.

                  Stationary earth
                  “Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.” – Job 38:4
                  “Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;” – Job 38:6
                  1 Samuel 2:8 “For the pillars of the earth are the Lord’s, And He has set the world upon them”.
                  Psalms 93:1 “The Lord reigns, he is clothed with majesty; The Lord is clothed, He has girded Himself with strength. Surely the world is established so that it cannot be moved.”
                  Isaiah 24:18- “And it shall be That he who flees from the noise of the fear Shall fall into the pit, And he who comes up from the midst of the pit, Shall be caught in the snare; For the windows from on high are open, And the foundations of the earth are shaken.”

                  Sun and moon
                  Genesis 1:16 “And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.”
                  Isaiah 13:10 “moon shall not cause her light to shine.”
                  (the sun is a star, and the moon is not a light source like the sun)

                  “It was Scientists of the day proclaiming that the Earth was flat, yet many lands were only discovered because Bible believing mariners ventured boldly toward the horizon, since the Bible proclaimed In Isiah 40:22 that the Earth is a “circle” (what we would call a “globe”).”

                  FALSE< it is advertised as the word of God, or inspired by God. So any flaw proof there is no God, he is not flawless or his word unreliable. Second, a circle is not a sphere. A circle is by definition flat. It's not what we would call a globe. And don't pretend most land was discovered because they believed it was a sphere, science has proven were the genes of the America's come from, and it's largely from Asia.
                  "Also, when I go out at night the moon is certainly a "light source" to me, whether it's reflected light or not. Where do you see the Bible claim that light originated with the moon? "

                  You can try to put light source between brackets all you want, you're just trying to change the meaning of the message. But a light source is a light source, and that's what the bible claims. Stop playing games. That's what your god claims (humans who didn't know better).
                  "AS far as slavery is concerned, just because the Lord didn't condemn it, doesn't mean that he was "ok" with it."

                  The same tired all bs excuse. He sure as shit didn't make it a commandment did he? It is literally worse to be a smart mouth or disrespectful to your parents then it is to nearly beat your slave to death if we take the bible seriously (which no one should ever do).

                  "He also didn't condemn Ceasar, in spite of all the wickedness of the Ceasars, but told his Apostles to pay taxes to Ceasar."

                  He was a coward who knew that real resistance would get him killed real fast. That's also the reason they Romans let him preach for a very long time, he did not only told very angry oppressed people not to pick up the weapons to their oppressors, he even said they should pay his oppressors. I personally would never follow such a coward. You can pretend it's peacefulness but the lord has no problems committing entire genocides. You also have to be really slowwitted to blindly accept a 180 degrees turn arorund from a schyzophrenic sociopathic mass murderer to a weird peace preaching hippie, since they are both the same person ("I am the father are one").

                  1. You still haven’t shown even one instance where God’s word says the world is flat, & it’s YOU who’s obviously “trying to change the meaning of the message”.

                    You got one thing right; He didn’t make slavery a commandment.

                    Your last paragraph was so ridiculous I’m not even going to touch on it, except to say that, according to the word of God (the Bible) Jesus the Christ CAME HERE TO DIE, to be sacrificed for the sins of the world, so to say that he did or did not do something because he feared death further shows that you really have no knowledge or understanding of the Scriptures at all, or most likely any real desire to know them other than to cast stones, so I’m no longer going to partake in this discussion with you, no sense casting any more “pearls before swine”.

                    1. “Your last paragraph was so ridiculous I’m not even going to touch on it, except to say that, according to the word of God (the Bible) Jesus the Christ CAME HERE TO DIE, to be sacrificed for the sins of the world, so to say that he did or did not do something because he feared death further shows that you really have no knowledge or understanding of the Scriptures at all”

                      Lol that only works if you believe all that blatant bullshit. Once you realize he was messiah nr 101 who might not completely believe his own brainwashing it all starts to make much more sense. Why would he be sor afraid and be terrified if he knew he was busted? And what sacrifice would it be if he CANNOT be killed. And back to the description of the flat earth, it DOES say that, it sim;ly uses different words, it describes it. Either way, it never says ANYWHERE that the earth is a sphere. Even if it does say that, it also says the sun revolves around us. To further more proof you that the bible is a steaming pile of shit here’s a sample of the bible’s many, many, MANY contradictions followed by it’s sickening morals:

                      Contradictions: (remember only ONE has to be a valid claim to proof the bible as unreliable source and either not god inspired, altered or a deceitful god)
                      War or Peace?
                      EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.
                      ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

                      Who is the father of Joseph?
                      MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
                      LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

                      Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
                      MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
                      MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
                      JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

                      Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
                      JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
                      JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

                      Which first–beasts or man?
                      GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
                      GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
                      GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
                      GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

                      How many stalls and horsemen?
                      1KI 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.
                      2CH 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

                      Is it folly to be wise or not?
                      PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
                      ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
                      1CO 1:19: “For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”

                      Human vs. ghostly impregnation
                      ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
                      MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
                      *Jesus cannot be both the fruit of the loins AND the child of the Holy Ghost

                      The sins of the father
                      ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.
                      DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

                      Fowl from waters or ground?
                      GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
                      GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
                      GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

                      Odd genetics
                      GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.

                      Order of creation
                      Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:
                      Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
                      Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)

                      Day 3: Plants
                      Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
                      Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
                      Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
                      Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)

                      Note that there are “days,” “evenings,” and “mornings” before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as “Elohim,” which is a plural, thus the literal translation, “the Gods.” In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that “it was good.”

                      The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:
                      Earth and heavens (misty)
                      Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)
                      Eve, the first woman (from Adam’s rib)

                      How orderly were things created?
                      1: Step-by-step. The only discrepancy is that there is no Sun or Moon or stars on the first three “days.”
                      2: God fixes things up as he goes. The first man is lonely, and is not satisfied with animals. God finally creates a woman for him. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

                      How satisfied with creation was he?
                      1: God says “it was good” after each of his labors, and rests on the seventh day, evidently very satisfied.
                      2: God has to fix up his creation as he goes, and he would certainly not be very satisfied with the disobedience of that primordial couple. (funny thing that an omniscient god would forget things)

                      Moses’ personality
                      NUM 12:3: “Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.”
                      NUM 31:14, 17, 18: “And Moses was wroth…And Moses said unto them, “Have ye saved all the women alive? … Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman, … But all the women children … keep alive for yourselves.”

                      Righteous live
                      PSA 92:12: “The righteous shall flourish like the palm tree.”
                      ISA 57:1: “The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart.”

                      Jesus’ first sermon plain or mount?
                      MAT 5:1,2: “And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: And he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying….”
                      LUK 6:17,20: “And he came down with them, and stood in the plain, and the company of his disciples, and a great multitude of people…came to hear him.. And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples and said…”

                      Jesus’ last words
                      MAT 27:46,50: “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, “Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?” that is to say, “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” …Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.”
                      LUK 23:46: “And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, “Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:” and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.”
                      JOH 19:30: “When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, “It is finished:” and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”

                      Years of famine
                      II SAMUEL 24:13: So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
                      I CHRONICLES 21:11: SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destroyed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

                      Moved David to anger?
                      II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.
                      I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

                      The GENEALOGY OF JESUS?
                      In two places in the New Testament the genealogy of Jesus son of Mary is mentioned. MAT 1:6-16 and LUK 3:23-31. Each gives the ancestors of Joseph the CLAIMED husband of Mary and Step father of Jesus. The first one starts from Abraham(verse 2) all the way down to Jesus. The second one from Jesus all the way back to Adam. The only common name to these two lists between David and Jesus is JOSEPH, How can this be true? and also How can Jesus have a genealogy when all Muslims and most Christians believe that Jesus had/has no father.

                      God be seen?
                      EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
                      God CAN be seen:
                      “And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts.” (EXO 33:23)
                      “And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend.” (EXO 33:11)
                      “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” (GEN 32:30)
                      God CANNOT be seen:
                      “No man hath seen God at any time.” (JOH 1:18)
                      “And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live.” (EXO 33:20)
                      “Whom no man hath seen nor can see.” (1TIM 6:16)

                      “I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy.” (JER 13:14) “Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.”
                      “The Lord is very pitiful and of tender mercy.” (JAS 5:11)
                      “For his mercy endureth forever.” (1CH 16:34)
                      “The Lord is good to all, and his tender mercies are over all his works.” (PSA 145:9)
                      “God is love.” (1JO 4:16)

                      “And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham.” (GEN 22:1)
                      “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” (JAS 1:13)

                      Judas died how?
                      “And he (Judas) cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests…bought with them the potter’s field.” (MAT 27:5)
                      “Now this man (Judas) purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.” (ACT 1:18)

                      Ascend to heaven
                      “And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.” (2KI 2:11)
                      “No man hath ascended up to heaven but he that came down from heaven, … the Son of Man.” (JOH 3:13)

                      What was Jesus’ prediction regarding Peter’s denial?
                      Before the cock crow – MAT 26:34
                      Before the cock crow twice – MAR 14:30

                      How many times did the cock crow?
                      MAR 14:72 And the second time the cock crew. And Peter called to mind the word that Jesus said unto him, Before the cock crow twice, thou shalt deny me thrice. And when he thought thereon, he wept.
                      MAT 26:74 Then began he to curse and to swear, saying, I know not the man. And immediately the cock crew.
                      MAT 26:75 And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.
                      LUK 22:60 And Peter said, Man, I know not what thou sayest. And immediately, while he yet spake, the cock crew.
                      LUK 22:61 And the Lord turned, and looked upon Peter. And Peter remembered the word of the Lord, how he had said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.
                      JOH 13:38 Jesus answered him, Wilt thou lay down thy life for my sake? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, The cock shall not crow, still thou hast denied me thrice.
                      JOH 18:27 Peter then denied again: and immediately the cock crew.

                      Does every man sin?
                      1KI 8:46 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man that sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them to the enemy, so that they carry them away captives unto the land of the enemy, far or near;
                      2CH 6:36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;
                      PRO 20:9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?
                      ECC 7:20 For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.
                      JO1 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
                      JO1 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
                      JO1 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
                      JO1 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

                      Who bought potter’s field
                      ACT 1:18 Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.
                      ACT 1:19 And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
                      MAT 27:6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.
                      MAT 27:7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter’s field, to bury strangers in.
                      MAT 27:8 Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.

                      Do you answer a fool?
                      PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.
                      PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

                      How many children did Michal, the daughter of Saul, have?
                      2SA 6:23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
                      2SA 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite:

                      How old was Jehoiachin when he began to reign?
                      2KI 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother’s name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
                      2CH 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

                      Did those with Saul/Paul at his conversion hear a voice?
                      ACT 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
                      ACT 22:9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

                      Where was Jesus three days after his baptism?
                      MAR 1:12 And immediately the spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
                      JOH 1:35 Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;

                      How many apostles were in office between the resurrection and ascension?
                      1 Corinthians 15:5 (12)
                      MAT 27:3-5 (minus one from 12)
                      ACT 1:9-26 (Mathias not elected until after resurrection)
                      MAT 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.

                      1 Cor 2:15 “The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:” (NIV)
                      1 Cor 4:5 “Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men’s hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.”

                      Good deeds
                      Matt 5:16 “In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven.” (NIV)
                      Matt 6:3-4 “But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” (NIV)

                      For or against?
                      MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
                      (default is against)
                      MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
                      (default is for)
                      LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
                      (default is for)

                      Whom did they see at the tomb?
                      MAT 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
                      MAT 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
                      MAT 28:4 And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
                      MAT 28:5 And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.
                      MAR 16:5 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
                      LUK 24:4 And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
                      JOH 20:12 And seeth two angels in white sitting, the one at the head, and the other at the feet, where the body of Jesus had lain.

                      When second coming?
                      MAT 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
                      MAR 13:30 Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
                      LUK 21:32 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

                      The mother of Abijah:
                      2CH 11:20 Maachah the daughter of Absalom
                      2CH 13:2 Michaiah the daughter of Uriel

                      When did Baasha die?
                      1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa
                      2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

                      How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
                      2KI 8:26 22
                      2CH 22:2 42

                      What was the color of the robe placed on Jesus during his trial?
                      MAT 27:28 scarlet
                      JOH 19:2 purple
                      What did they give him to drink?
                      MAT 27:34 vinegar
                      MAR 15:23 wine with myrrh

                      On Morals:
                      “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

                      “If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.” (Exodus 21:20-21)

                      “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.” (Luke 14:26)

                      “For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken. No man that hath a blemish of the seed of Aaron the priest shall come nigh to offer the offerings of the Lord made by fire: he hath a blemish; he shall not come nigh to offer the bread of his God.” (Leviticus 21:18-21)

                      “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household.” (Matthew 10:34-36 )

                      “And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee” (Deuteronomy 28:53)

                      “And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

                      And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.” (2 Kings 2:23-24)

                      “These were the spoils which remained of the plunder taken by the fighting men: 675,000 sheep, 72,000 cattle, 61,000 donkeys, and as for persons, 32,000 young women who had had no intercourse with a man.” (Numbers 31:32)

                      “When two men are fighting and the wife of one of them intervenes to drag her husband clear of his opponent, if she puts out her hand and catches hold of the man by his privates, you must cut off her hand and show her no mercy.” (Deuteronomium 25:11)

                      “Whoever utters the name of the Lord must be put to death. The whole community must stone him, whether alien or native. If he utters the name, he must be put to death.” (Leviticus 24:16)

                      “I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent.” (Timothy 2:11)

                      “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.” (Leviticus 20:9)

                      Who is responsible for all this evil?
                      “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7)

                    2. Why is an article about the nutrition of juicing bringing so much arguing about God and faith. If you believe, great! If you don’t believe, great! Why get so angry and petty about what someone else believes??? I read comments to see if anyone else has more knowledge about the article in discussion, but you all can’t realize that there are many faiths, as well as non-believers in this great big world. I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution! How taboo!!! This has nothing to do with the article! If you want to argue about who is right or who is wrong find somewhere else to do it!

                    3. Funny how you, a religious person, only addressed me and not the other religious person. Hypocritical. This is a public discussion, yes it’s off topic but no one forced you to view it. You can choose to ignore it, like you did with logic when you read the bible and still believed.

                      “I believe in God, but I also believe in evolution!”

                      Hey you’re call but it’s a complete contradiction, since contrary to popular believe you cannot freely interpret the bible but need to take everything literally:
                      “Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God.” (2 Peter 20-21)
                      Not only was everything supposedly created in days, there’s a big contradiction (like tons of others) in the bible about the creation order:

                      Here is the order in the first (Genesis 1), the Priestly tradition:
                      Day 1: Sky, Earth, light
                      Day 2: Water, both in ocean basins and above the sky(!)
                      Day 3: Plants
                      Day 4: Sun, Moon, stars (as calendrical and navigational aids)
                      Day 5: Sea monsters (whales), fish, birds, land animals, creepy-crawlies (reptiles, insects, etc.)
                      Day 6: Humans (apparently both sexes at the same time)
                      Day 7: Nothing (the Gods took the first day off anyone ever did)
                      Note that there are “days,” “evenings,” and “mornings” before the Sun was created. Here, the Deity is referred to as “Elohim,” which is a plural, thus the literal translation, “the Gods.” In this tale, the Gods seem satisfied with what they have done, saying after each step that “it was good.”

                      The second one (Genesis 2), the Yahwist tradition, goes:
                      Earth and heavens (misty)
                      Adam, the first man (on a desolate Earth)

                      “If you want to argue about who is right or who is wrong find somewhere else to do it!”
                      I don’t think you have authority here to tell us what to do. How about this:
                      If you want participate in online discussions you either don’t cherry pick the subject or find somewhere else to do it!

                      And who is angry? Sounds like mental projection to me (this: “what someone else believes???” comes across as very emotional). Feel free to quote the parts were you think i’m angry.

                    1. Axis is not sphere. Nice try being creative with words. Also there is nothing that indicates that they would mean that or had such knowledge or understandings, and even if it did it would not matter because of all the other errors.

                2. I’m pretty sure a circle is NOT a globe. A circle is a flat, two dimensional, round surface. A globe is 3 dimensional. It’s like saying that a square is the same as a cube.

        2. Um, humans are primates. Other modern primates are our evolutionary cousins, not ancestors. Carry on.

          Back to topic, I suppose I’ll have to start having vodka smoothies instead of having it with orange, cranberry or tomato juice. Good video – I thought I was being healthy!

        3. We evolved from a common ancestor shared by both species. Time to read a little Darwin to understand it better. Its really a pretty cool process. lol

        4. Gosh, I don’t know. Perhaps you should consult your 8th grade biology textbook for the answer, lest you go through life thinking you presented the world with a clever rhetorical question.

        5. “Primate” isn’t a species, it’s an order of many different species including humans, apes, monkeys, and of course the ones we all evolved from. Hope that helps clear your confusion.

            1. Okay.The fact that you didn’t understand how there can still be primates if we evolved from (other) primates seemed a pretty clear indication of confusion.

        6. So I’m new to juicing and was just browsing the net to help educate myself on the subject, when I ran across this topic. Let me attempt to explain this uneducated and silly question. “If we evolved from primates, I wonder why there are still primates?” Well, let us also wonder, “if there are snakes, why are there still lizards”, “if there are tetrapods, why are there still fish”, or “if there are European Americans, why are there still Europeans?” Even further, if there were woolly mammoths, why are there still elephants, since elephants branched off from the gene to create mammoths in the first place. Also, apes are another little piece of the puzzle you silly creationists fail to realize. Apes are just a lineage of monkeys, yet we must choose a specific name for this monkey species because it’s clearly different, as are humans.

          Another thing, your supposed Sky Nanny also created light, correct? He created light day 2 and yet somehow, magically forgot to create the source until day 5. Make much sense to you? Your Sky Wizard also created water, correct? Then why is there only 0.7% water on a planet, created by a superior know-it-all drinkable? Make much sense to you? Why has our lifespan increased from 22 to 79 in just under a couple hundred years? These answers are simple, “science.” If it were up to your precious Sky Freak, we’d still be screwing 12 year old children and stoning adulterers and unruly children in the streets. Thankfully, with evolution came higher education and better understanding (for most of us). Hell even the US supreme court made it legal for gays to marry in all 50 states. A far stretch from the “god-fearing country” you Fundies make it out to be don’t ya think? Even worse, why are 60,000+ children dying each DAY from something so simple as starvation? Their little hands are reaching out to the very same Sky Idiot you worship, praying and begging for food, yet it never comes. I wonder where your precious god is in this case? Also, why do you Fundies even bother praying? Wouldn’t that be considered a direct rebellion against your precious, egotistical Sky Zombie? After all, I’m positive one of your responses are going to be “but we have free will.” If that’s the case and you happen to question your god long enough by praying and begging him to change the outcome of what he’s already planned, then that would mean him admitting a mistake, which would also mean he/it/she is fallible. If he/it/she is not infallible (unable to make a mistake) then that would only mean one simple thing. He/it/she was never a god to begin with.

          But let’s not forget this all-loving creator ordered the beheading of every first born in Egypt and then told Moses to “keep the virgins for yourselves” during the slaughter. He also demands in Leviticus that women be forced to marry their rapist. Surely this is someone worth praising and praying too right? I mean after all, all you have to do is symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell it your sorry for a quick rinse/repeat of your “sins.” lol I swear, you people need to be in a damn straight jacket and at best put in jail for child abuse if you teach this despicable shit to your children.

        7. Well done David. Not surprisingly, no one ever has a scientific evidence based answer for that – nor why – since the religion of evolution has apparently never ceased – where are all the Neanderthals / missing links that should still be walking around?

          1. Timothy: The Neanderthals smaller brain and limited thinking capacity was there downfall. During the last climate change, they could not adapt and went extinct. The African pigmy tribe living at the same time had superior thinking skills. The climate change was so severe that the population of individuals on earth was as low as 20,000. They spread out in small groups in every direction: to the north, south, east and west Between 50 and 80,000 years ago. Each group adapted to their new climate area: lighter skin in low sun north, etc. Over thousands of years groups met up again and inter mingled, passing on the 100 of evolutionary changes to each other.

        1. A scientific theory is not the same as a belief. It is far more rigourous with young scientists trying to make a name for themselves by disproving it everyday. Been over 150 years since Darwin and the evidence only gets stronger. Faithheads bore me.

      2. You are talking nonsense. How can we have descended from primates. What an insult! Enlarged brains have allowed us to create what??? Obviously you need a little bit more then education, I hope it is not too late for you.

        1. There is creation and evolution is the process, Miji, just put your God created evolved mind to all the visual evidence. And we are still evolving mostly in the area of conscious awareness, upright posture has left us with knee, back and foot problems. That is so evident,all you have to do is really look and compare. But the variation in near anf far sightedness with the expanded brain loss of heavy jaw muscles are perfect for finding ways to spend less time simply chewing. With thee invention of blenders we now can have the best of both worlds, the garden of Eden diet while cruising our asphalt highways.

          1. I suppose God went and hid all those sneaky fossils that support Darwin. He went to all that trouble just to try and fool us. What a sneaky God. lol

        2. The evidence is overwhelming. Time to read a book on transitional fossils. The evidence is overwhelming. Too late for what, to be forgiven by your skyGod?

          1. By the way, where does one find all those “transitional fossills”? I’ve never seen one or even an actual unretouched photograph of one? There should have been trillions if all life evolved as you Darwinians claim.

        3. Creation happened, then in the changing of the Universe, primates that were similar to humans were gifted with plants that change the structure of the brain. Cannabinoid receptors working with cannabis are God’s way of changing brain chemistry of the closest DNA relatives

      3. Sara Campos, I didn’t follow the link you shared, but you should know that any .edu webpage that contains a ~ in the link contains material not necessarily sanctioned by that institution. In other words, it’s probably not a peer-reviewed study, and more likely an opinion piece without primary source references. I’m not disputing the information contained in the link, as I did not read it, only mentioning this because it should serve to further enhance your ability to read such articles with a critical eye.

      4. Research shows today that we don’t come from primates… One can Do a little research and you will discover very easily that evolution was not as they want us to believe… We were not wild beasts and then became intelligent humans, human civilisation is much longer than what most of us believe. It’s not to argue with anyone, but just to state the truth that is so much “mystified” as the food we should eat…
        Excellent video!

      5. YES God has done a magnificent job, that is why “we are now adapting” along with our GOD-GIVEN mental abilities. Is your knowledge on this matter not from GOD, Sara?..

      6. I think John was merely pointing out how the whole plant is more nutritious than it’s juiced counterpart. When we start to meddle with our food to much we lose some of it’s beneficial qualities, however, I do agree that blenders help us with our mastication problem and can even increase bioavailabilty of some nutrients. Thank God for blenders

        1. It’s not quite that simple. Each person has different needs. The very sick and weak respond better to juices. They receive instant energy with no energy being spent. When they drink a blended drink which includes the fibre the body needs to use energy to digest the blend: Usually 3 hrs to receive the full benefit.

          They key is your state of health and energy level. Once energy levels are back up, blending is fine.

    2. God has done a great job on the human body and our earthly nutrition. Before Daniel was thrown in the lions den, he was tested by the king and God told him to only eat vegetables and fruit while the other men ate from the king’s table (meat). When it came to testing the humans, Daniel and his friends who only ate vegetables and fruit performed better and looked healthier than people who ate off the king’s table. So yeah, God is a great God. If Sara wants to believe that her relatives are primates, then let her think that.

      1. lol…if we evolved from them, they are our relatives, if god created us all, we would still be relatives, as he would be our father, mother, parent, whatever you want to call it.

      2. Let me not you forget that evolution uses the same mechanisms that this organization uses. It’s called science and unlike your god it’s much more reliable and conducive to the well being of the human(primate race). So why ever come here again, when your good book has answered all question regarding nutrition. But it hasn’t because you need science.

        1. Although I like your post and the direction you are heading I feel I must point out that Evolution is completely arbitrary. Some changes work well, some not so much. There is no grand design or direction. Natural selection weeds out the mutations that work and the ones that dont. Cheers!

          1. True, but ironically this lack of grand design is evidence (not proof) for the lack of god’s influence in this process.

      3. Yea, Good job God. Cancer, diabeties, stroke, heart attack, alzheimers, . Earthly nutrition. How many people died eating plants that were poison until they figured it out. Sheesh!

        1. You can’t argue with indoctrinated, brainwashed (fact) people who hold on to ideas that thrive on gut feeling, discourage common sense and is based on the social, male dominated society of desert tribes.

      4. God gave you an pi system that lets both air and food go in, making it possible for you to choke on food and get water in your lunges. Perfect design my ass. We are filled with flaws, diseases are no punishment from god but flaws our body cannot defend against.

  2. Awesome video! I find it fascinating that most polyphenols in plants are bound to fiber, and when the gut bacteria digest the fiber, they release the polyphenols for our use. Fructose has been so maligned recently and it makes so much sense that mother nature got it right by packaging fructose with fiber, polyphenols and other nutrients. Wonder what Dr. Lustig thinks about whole fruit being associated with a reduced risk of Type 2 diabetes, since that contradicts his theory that all fructose is bad and causes insulin resistance and fatty liver.

    1. I remember Dr. Lustig saying in a video, “, the antidote comes with the poison,” when he was talking about the fiber in fruit and its high fructose content.

    2. A couple small but significant digressions to your comments Julie. First, I do not remember ever seeing the “fact” that “most polyphenols in plants are bound to the fiber.” Where did this come up? From everything I have read, most of the phytochemicals are capable of being rendered through the liquidation process of a Juicer machine. From what I have seen, other than those bound in the fiber which is a much smaller portion, one can produce a highly concentrated plant-based chemotherapy agent which is comprised of the darkest and brightest produce, with any juicer no matter how efficient they are. Coming from someone who ran a Juice Bar (Santa Cruz, 1969), I can say with conviction, a glass of blenderized produce requires significantly less produce than a centrifigal juicer requires for the same size glass. As I said, the best of all is the Norwalk Juicer which includes both the tricherator function (which is similar to but inferior to human chewing in terms of the cell breakdown and release of phytochemicals) and the 2-ton press step)….that’s a big squeeze which explains the studies as to just how little nutritional value is left behind, but not necessarily worth the near-$1000 price tag – that is why most go with the less efficient cheap Juicer, especially if they consider all that gourmet “waste” being recycled through their compost worms which comes back to us again in the produce we grow with it. Anyway, the other point here is that although Dr. Greger’s original article did not address this, people don’t chew nearly as efficiently as a machine. Although there are inherent advantages such as the spiritual practice of chewing every bite thoroughly, if getting the job done – reversing one’s cancer in the most efficient manner, I choose other means of getting the roughage one must also be imbibing (this is a whole category of kitchen medicine foods). As for the fructose (sugar) question, this too has been glossed over by default. Dr. Greger has not positioned himself as primarily a deliverer of anti-cancer food strategies, and if he had, mention would have been made about the universally agreed upon need to keep one’s sugar consumption down to a minimum (20%-40%? Depends upon which Alternative Oncologist you are listening to, where you are in the cancer proliferation cycle, type, co-existing issues, etc.). Mutated cells (cancer) crave and grow in an acidic, fermentative environment which directly relates to presence of sugar (or carbs which metabolize more slowly into sugars) That’s why it is so helpful to not forget the celery, cucumber, squashes, leaves, etc. when making any juices which has lots of the sweet stuff in it.

      1. Not to mention some of us weren’t blessed with the greatest of teeth nor the finances to remedy that, so being able to make smoothies with our cheapie blenders daily (or even juicing if you can afford the machines) is certainly a better option than bemoaning the past and foregoing the nutrients we would otherwise miss!

        1. yes charzie, I am with you on this point. As a suggestion, if you can find even 2-square feet of space in the sun, I recommend planting any self-sowing, multi-harvest “green” – it will prove to be the most cost-effective change you can make in your life. Forces us outdoors every day, can be repeatedly harvested, year-after-year, use in soups, stir-fry, smoothies. Today I discovered Komatsuma (mild mustard similar to spinach) growing in a field I planted 3 years ago! Most of the “Asian Greens” naturalize and become immortal and manna from heaven for us.

          1. Oh yeah Ariel, I sure do grow what I can! I’d love to have a bigger garden, but I’m limited physically. it’s not only cost efficient but it’s great to know HOW it was grown! I am also big into sprouting and micro-greens, nothing as cool as a garden at your fingertips in days, and a huge variety too! I also make bread out of sprouted grains, and even use my own wild sourdough instead of buying yeast. My latest passion is cultured foods…making kraut, or any lacto-fermented veggies for probiotics and other benefits! We have tons of potential food growing wild here (S Florida) in the form of opuntia cacti, known as nopales, which I often use, and have made great fermented salsa including it. Right now I am experimenting with fermenting strips of it by itself…kind of looks like skinny pickles! Fun in my kitchen lab, and the price is sure right! It makes me furious when I hear people excuse the SAD way they eat by saying it’s too expensive to eat well, when the opposite is true!

  3. A very interesting topic indeed, I only find it sad that there even needs to be a debate for people to determine whether whole plant foods are the healthiest foods. It seems intuitive to me.

  4. Some polyphenols function as prebiotics, selectively feeding beneficial gut bacteria (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), and as other prebiotics act to reduce gut permeability to endotoxins and systemic inflammation (6, 7), perhaps this accounts for much of the anti-inflammatory and anti-diabetogenic effects of whole fruit. Meanwhile, high amounts of the fruit sugar fructose (also half of table sugar or HFCS), when given alone, may increase small intestinal bacterial overgrowth and gut permeability to endotoxins, and the liver injuries of diabetes (8, 9, 10). It seems nature provides both the peril and prevention for heathy gut flora in the whole fruit, but much of the prevention side is lost with juice.

    1. You mention that high amounts of the “fruit” sugar fructose appear to increase SIBO overgrowth and gut permeability. Are whole fruits that are abundant and/or predominant in the sugar fructose capable of doing this, or are you just referring to products that take the fructose out of the whole fruit? Could excess whole fruit cause gut permeability? I read over the studies you posted and maybe I missed something but I don’t think whole fruit was mentioned. But it seems to me that whole fruit might in fact being causative in certain people. Thanks.

      1. My comment was a consideration of the Muraki et al paper, where whole fruit intake decreased diabetes risk while juice increased it, in the light of recent studies on the gut microbiome and metabolic disorders, which I’ve been wading into of late.

        The animal experiments where high fructose intake induced fatty liver and increased plasma endotoxin use refined diets. Pure fructose may be added to drinking water, or substituted for starch in food pellets. The only human study to date to support these experiments was the case-control with patients with fatty liver (11), where higher fructose intake, presumably mostly from added sugars, was the only dietary variable distinguishing patients from controls (patients also had higher BMIs and exercised less).

        All indication is that whole fruit (and even some juices) reduce intestinal permeability and endotoxin exposure. I do have other concerns with fructose, so personally don’t consume sugar sweetened beverages, desserts, and choose fruit which have a high polyphenol/calorie ratio, like berries and citrus.

        1. Thank you. As an aside but related, there was an article published recently in one of the vegan magazines (read it at bookstore/forget name of magazine/writer). The writer stated they were a graduate of the T Colin Campbell/Cornell plant based nutrition course ( I don’t remember exact title). They claimed that there is the chance that supplemental B12 could feed SIBO, thus makes it even worse, as SIBO bacteria gobble up our B12.

          And one would (I assume) end up with an even lower B12 eventually (paradoxically) and worse symptoms from SIBO.
          Thus more weight-loss, muscle-loss, wasting….all because of B12 supplements. But it seems some vegan diets that are high in fructans/polys etc – fructose fruits, beans and such – might create the issue in the first place. But the B12 is the “grenade”. SIBO has been shown to gobble up our B12, this has been credibly established, to my knowledge. Have you any insight into this?

          1. I doubt that B12 supplementation would cause SIBO, as energy present in the microgram supplemental doses is miniscule. All the papers I’ve found that relate SIBO to B12 have the causality in the other direction. Once SIBO is established, the organisms can compete for B12 and other vitamins and prevent their use by the host, and some produce B12 analogues, inactive in humans, that may interfere with true B12 absorption. See: 1, 2, 3

              1. Here’s my collection of dietary intervention studies that appear to reduce gut permeability and plasma endotoxins. A broad variety of polyphenol containing foods (cocoa, grape seed extract, hops, muscadine grapes, virgin olive oil, orange juice), isolated polyphenols (rutin, puerarin), prebiotics found in whole wheat and allium vegetables (inulin, oligofructose, arabinoxylan), and correction of vitamin C and zinc deficiencies all seem to have positive effects.

                Given the limited absorption of polyphenols and generally low plasma concentrations, its possible modulating gut microbiota and barrier function may account for much of their observed antiinflammatory benefits.

    2. Agreed , Juicing alone is not enough unless you have an absorption malady. You need blending too to insure enough fibre. I use an Omega masticating juicer which is killer for greens along with a Vitamix. Cheers!

  5. When I drink a smoothie, I am ingesting everything that I have put into the juicer. Is the fiber and all of its benefits still there, or has something been lost due to the action of the blades?

    1. Good question. This points to the need for a retraction of this video. He paints a very broad brush against juicing without enough specific information to help us understand why. It would like making a broad statement against cooking, when we know that some foods benefit from cooking and even others have no appreciable impact. Juicing, blending (smoothie), cutting, cooking, and eating whole raw will have benefits and drawbacks depending on the food. I think this presentation is an odd ball out considering the nature of his previous work. A focus on the food and methods of preparation for each food is a super approach over demonizing a specific method.

      1. Disagree Sara. Nowhere are smoothies mentioned in this, read the transcript it is all about eating the “whole fruit”. He consistently reminds us that extracts (as a juice certainly is) are almost always worse than the whole food as a general principle (see vitamins A, C. E); we DO Need generalities for nutrition since the nutritive qualities have such wide variation even among the same species grown in different parts of the same field and there are so many forward and reverse feedback mechanisms and such a wide variety of gut flora species it is impossible to say one food or one extract will always have only one and just one result. The take away from this is that eating the whole fruit is generally better than juicing in respect of fiber and phyto-woo and that’s all you need to know.

        1. not that I am agreeing with everything Sara is suggesting but in her defense, the “Doctor’s Notes” says, “… this suggests smoothies are preferable.”

          1. He’s saying smoothies, because they have the fiber too, is preferable to juicing. The whole fruit or veggie is preferable to both. Those who juice and blend want to believe their liquefied food is better because there is more of it and presumably because it’s already liquefied, is more digestible. (Wishful thinking)

            Dr Greger “generalizes” because his criticism of juicing is juicing does the same pulp separation job on all plants. The issue isn’t whether one pant is good juiced and another is bad. He’s saying the act of juicing diminished the nutritional value of all that is juiced…therefore if you’re gonna…then blenders and smoothies are the way to go. If your compulsion is in check you’re better off eating fresh vegetables and fruits.

            1. the smaller the particle, the higher the glycemic index, since there’s more surface area and can be digested much more rapidly i.e. mashed potatoes(88) over whole potatoes(72). It’s still a potato.

            2. I am also certified in plant based nutrition also from eCornell’s T. Colin Campbell course. I worked with and for Dr. Ann Wigmore for over 22 years, and one of the things she was looking for and I’m continuing to search for, is a supplier of juicers and blenders with ceramic blades. The metal blades react with the foods. As the food is juiced in a centrifugal machine, and thrown against the wall of the juicer before it’s collected in the glass, the electrical charge of it is changed from negative to positive. We need the original negative ions, which For this reason, the Gerson’s in Mexico use a screw type juicer (naming a Champion if one cannot afford a Norwalk).which apparently, according to them, is the best

              1. Seriously? I doubt Dr. Campbell distinguishes between positive and negative ions. You picked that jargon up elsewhere. Stainless steel is used throughout the medical industry so I don’t know why it would be a problem to stir tea or pulverize veggies, if you so desire. On the other hand, no telling what is in ceramic, especially from China. Expensive ceramic blades and containers are great for use as melting crucibles and tools but overpriced for pulping veggies. Why waste the money?

              2. Good point. Check out the Omega masticating juicers. Only revolve at 80 rpm (as opposed to thousands) and its pressing mechanism contains no metal and produces no heat and does not oxidize because of the lower speed. I have tried both and the taste says all you need to know. I can juice any green with my Omega 900 and it tastes way better than the super fast machines. Sure it takes more time but it is a labour of love. Do have to add a few carrots to the kale though. lol

      2. Any thoughts on vegetables needing to be cooked/steamed in order to be properly digested, in today’s day
        and age of our GI tracts?….due to protease inhibitors and tannins, amongst other things. I doubt cooking tannin-foods
        helps, and I’ve read that tannins (in excess) can compromise digestion/absorption/organs, but I know of asians who
        feel leafy greens should “only” be eaten cooked, for proper digestion and absorption of minerals and vitamins.

      3. Sara you make good points. If I had to chew raw, cook, or blend my kale I would eat very little of it. However, with my Angel juicer I juice carrots and Kale together , while I blend my apples in iced white tea with lemon in my Vitamix. I combine them for what I consider an enjoyable blended fruit-juiced vegetable drink.
        This vid makes a good point regarding fruit fiber, but it does not answer the question on vegetable fiber, which many viewers seem to assume is exactly the same.
        There is another vid where Dr. Greger makes points on how important mastication is in certain vegetables which seems to be another positive to blending and juicing over normal chewing. Chewing to the degree a blender processes seems very unnatural to me, therefore in my opinion juicers for strong leafies and blenders for fruits and some vegetables is both more healthful and convenient.

        1. Love your comment. Are you happy with your Angel Juicer. Too expensive for me so I settled on an Omega 900. John the juicer man compared them both and the difference was not that great although the angel was better. I love the slow speed. I tried a super fast breville with my same 11 veg recipe and I could hardly finish it. There was no comparison in the taste. I attribute it to the insignificant oxidation and heat but have no proof. Cheers!

        2. Thank you. This was helpful. And yes i certainly love the slow juicer. I recently bought the Moulinex masticating juicer. Very happy with it.

    2. I am a Juicing and Green Smoothie Junkie! I have a Breville Elite Juicer and a Vitamix Blender. In order not to waste the ffiber from Juicing I make veggie brownies!! So there is still hope to keep your fiber and all the good stuff that comes along with it!!!!

  6. Dr Esselstein comments on smoothies at http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/faq/ where he says
    “Avoid smoothies. The fiber is so finely
    pureed and rapidly swallowed without the benefits of mixing with helpful
    bacteria in the mouth. The sugar is separated from the fiber of the
    fruit, bypasses salivary digestion and results in a surge of glucose.
    The fructose enhances inflammation, hypertension and endothelial injury.
    Chew your food.”
    I recall Jeff Novick saying something similar about smoothies, that they will spike blood sugar about 10% more than the whole fruit. So, perhaps making smoothies is only somewhat better than drinking juice.

      1. Pat, you posted an excellent comment from Dr. Esselstein. Why would his comment not apply to an all vegetable smoothie? Does the vegetable fiber avoid being “finely pureed”?

        1. I’m thinking that the lack of sugar in vegetables would diminish the problem described by Dr. Esselstein as a surge of glucose, along with inflammation, hypertension and endothelial injury. Maybe we should chew gum (sugarless, of course) to get more saliva in our guts.

          1. Veggies don’t lack sugar.. In fact, the body needs them. When you chew veggies the saliva is ground into the pulverized food and then swallowed. None of that action takes place when you swallow saliva and hope it mixes with the pureed veggies.

      2. Since the vegetables (kale, collard greens, celery, etc.) have less natural sugars than fruit, my guess is they would be okay. Maybe for optimum digestion though, you should “chew” each mouthful a bit before swallowing.

            1. Just like there is chunky and smooth peanut butter, I make chunky smoothies. I pulse once. Don’t know if this makes any difference or not in slicing and dicing the fiber, but smoothies is where I put all the other stuff, my soy powder, walnuts, flax.

    1. Are there any studies showing whether blending fruits or vegetables to make a smoothie are less nutritious than eating the food whole? Juicing a fruit usually removes the fiber and other nutrients, but blending fruit keeps 100% of all the nutrients. The latter just tears up the fiber but all the nutrients are still delivered to the body. My best guess is that blending fruits makes them more easily digestible, and saves a few calories expended over the case of chewing a fruit whole.

      1. If the plant is predigested by juicing then doesn’t it actually add a few calories? That’s the same problem caused by processed flour. instead of the whole grain being digested for hours the process four, finely ground, therefore exposed to stomach acid, is more easily absorbed into the system. (Maybe we’re saying the same thing but differently?)

        1. What is gained for the vegetally challenged set-me for one-is making vegetable eating a bit more palatable. It has helped me enormously reclaim my health. But I am worried just in case the argument is correct that pulverizing is harmful.

          1. Good point, Neal. I suppose if I had trouble downing vegetables then pulverizing hem would be much better than no veggies. Peanut butter was invented for folks with no teeth. But I don’t understand how one person can consume veggie juice but not vegetables…unless they have some gastric problem. If it’s just a matter of not liking vegetables, well, taste preference s=change easily when the taste buds are rejuvenated by abstaining form meat and diary. Veggies explode with flavor!
            Funny, when I was a kid, mom didn’t ask if I wanted KFC or McDonalds tonight. She fixed dinner and that included veggies. She didn’t consult me for my favorites. I ate what was placed on the table and it never occurred to me I had the option to not like a vegetable. While I didn’t care for brussel sprouts I choked them down anyway. Today I love ’em.
            Today, young mothers are manipulated by media to think they have to hide the veggies. That means they mix a small amount of veggies with bacon or cheese. Could that be why their kids are obsess?

            1. It’s true that I don’t enjoy vegetables as much as meat. However, seeing the compelling health benefits of meat, I used vegetable juicing as a means of eating quantities of vegetables and replacing meat and glycemic carb consumption. Seemed to work. Seemed to also result in a greater abiity to eat vegetables. However, it’s extremely unpalatable for me to eat raw kale-but juicing kale with tumeric, ginger, black pepper and lemon makes a nice satisfying drinkable means of drinking good quantities of healthy kale. I wish i liked the veggies more. But juicing seems to help a bit for someone raised on soda pop, french fries, hamburgers, KFC, and so on.

              1. No need to be concerned, vegetables that are whole but blended will give you the same benefits. Let’s not get crazy. :)

                Dr. Joel Fuhrman recommends in fact to blend vegetables like kale, to get all the benefits, since it is dubious that we chew enough to make it really absorbable.

                Either way, you’ll get benefits.

                1. Thule, your quote of Dr. Fuhrman is different form the Dr. Greger vis=seo talking about blended greens. It lacks saliva, important for digestion…unless you spit in the blender. The benefits form fiber is also lost. Who knows how harmful it is to the body’s organs as they try to sort out what’s going on when they are confronted with glutinous amounts of liquid nutrient to digest.

                  I bet that since you don’t chew your food causing it not to be absorbed, the reasonable solution isn’t to start chewing but to process your food? So Dr. Fuhrman is on record claiming there is no trade off when food is liquefied instead of chewed? Keep in mind he advocated up to three servings of meat weekly. He’s not my go-to guy on all things vegan. Especially since he earns a living selling supplements. Does he sell blenders too?

                  1. I can honestly say I never thought about “spitting” in my smoothie. But maybe that would help in the salivary digestion process since I don’t drink it right away. I’ll probably just say, “I added some amylase” and leave it at that.

                    1. tedstar, just thinking outside the spittoon…some are anal about smoothies not having the saliva in chewed food. I bet many do smoothies because they believe it provides some extra protection against the damage done by meat and dairy. I’m guessing if you don’t eat meat and dairy then you don’t need the perceived extreme protection.. Then again, if you do eat meat and dairy, there’s no science saying the extra nutrients are going to win the battle against rogue cancer cells going postal. If you don’t swallow the poison you don’t need the super antidote.

                    2. Larry: I haven’t done meat/dairy in over 19 yrs but don’t see any reason NOT to do the super antidote. It’s pretty easy, palatable, makes me feel great, is easy on the planet, and most importantly doesn’t exploit animals.

                    3. You and I aren’t a statistic. I know a woman (meat and dairy eater) who puts four or five blueberries on her cereal. She argues it won’t do any harm and it makes her feel good. She believes those few blueberries are protecting her. If the population of meat eaters think similarly, they won’t realize their poor choice until the meat has taken its toll. Monkey see, monkey do.

                  2. Where do you think that saliva, which is produced nonstop, goes when you swallow it. Into your stomach containing an already broken up green that is way more blended than your mouth could ever do. Unless of course you can chew as fast as a blender.

              2. Neal, I’ve known a lot of meat eaters who are sick from eating animals but they still choose to take medication to hide the symptoms and they continue to eat meat.

                I bet if you ate chicken wings without the BBQ sauce, and fish without seasoning, and the same for red meat, you might not like the taste so much. Millions create their own myths about how to avoid meat and dairy diseases (eat some kale or broccoli), but never have I met someone who believe meat has compelling health reason to consume. We’re each an unfinished book. It’s only afterwards the fiction story becomes non-fiction as others look back on the lives we led. Only then is the true perspective seen. To each his own.

                We do agree on kale. I don’t enjoy eating it. But kale is just one of many healthy plants, most we don’t even know about.

            2. Larry, I agree 100%. There was no questioning of what what served at dinner, lunch, bfast time. It was there, and you ate it. The thought that a child can manipulate the mother like you mention is unreal. But then, I don’t live around young families. The mother, and Dad, set the stage early in the child’s eating habits. I suppose outside forces, like school, etc contribute, but it starts at home! I guess I’m lucky I grew up when there wasn’t fast food.

              1. Jackie, what’s missing is the “conventional roles” parents once played in their children’s upbringing. In my opinion woman have been “liberated’ so they can work and add to the billionaires’ bottom line. There was a time when one parent worked and paid the bills. Now it takes both parents, government programs, and charity to put food on the table because the parent’s money goes to pay for cheap plastic thingies made in China (and now expensive Chinese Apple products) along with catastrophic medical bills form eating the cheap food. Isn’t it ironic young people expect to pay five or six hundred dollars for a “telephone” and then used one finger to type out a text message like it’s Morris code? There was a time when telephones were owned by the monopoly and provided “free” to the subscribers…they never broke down. My parent had the same black phone for thirty years. I’m not saying bring back the good old days, I’m just observing how manipulated we are today by media. Our goal today is to make more money to buy some new version of the thing we bought a year ago. Any economy reliant on that sort of consumerism is built on a house of cards.

                The only ground roots solution I see is for “men” to assume responsibility for their families and stop feeding their children poisonous foods. As it, the mindset is Rachael Ray portrays a dutiful wifey who fixes her man, John, the pork chops with white beans and sausage he wants. She professes a subservient roll but in reality she’s just an actress portraying what the meat and dairy industries want American women to mirror. Men need to tell their wifes, “Let’s eat healthy, I don’t want meat and dairy…I’m tired of the food police deciding my children should eat their poison.

                1. well, speaking as a “liberated” woman, it was very, very difficult to be a great mother. I spent 7 years at university, and wasn’t about to “waste” that on being a “stay at home mom”. And I did not. I did have a daughter, but I sure wasn’t the mother that My mom was, who did not work ever. Yes, there was a time when the working husband could generate enough income to take care of the family in pretty good style. But…those days are gone. I stayed at home with my daughter when she was young until we were just about bankrupt, and it wasn’t because of those cheap plastic thingies, this was in the early 70’s. It was the basics. So, it’s a hard choice, but the women are continuing in their education, professional jobs, etc. There is no turning back.

                  1. Not suggesting women should play a subservient role. Just pointing out how society has been manipulated by industry through media to attack historical (and evolutional) conventions to maximize American workforce participation and corporate profits. Now that everyone’s busy working to pay the bills, no one has time to cook dinner, or lunch, or even breakfast. The corporations sell us all the unhealthy “food” they can manipulate us to buy. Government feeds out kids once or twice each day in accordance to the meat and dairy industries mandates. What has society gained? Seems to me one income should pay the bills and the second should allow the industrious couple to accumulate wealth. Instead we pay for the services and conveniences we need in order to be a two income family. .

            3. Nowhere does the video say its harmful.. Perhaps it is missing in some lost benefits that eating or blending may convey. But harmful. Not. I juice and I blend and I eat. Love them all. Juicing, especially greens is for those who want a large dose of green goodness that would be impossible to consume otherwise. Cheers!

          2. Only at high speeds which oxidize and heat. Check out John the Juicer on youtube and the Omega or Greenstar masticating juicers. Slower, but a labour of love. Cheers!

        2. Larry, flour is more than just “pulverized” wheat. Or, guess I should say less. They take almost all the nutrients out, the fiber, etc. That’s why they call it “enriched”, is because they add all the vitamins back in, (but not the fiber) after they’ve taken them all out. So, no, don’t think there’s any correlation here.
          But, yes, the finer a food is ground, the higher the glycemic index is, like pureed potatoes compared to just a whole potato. Think that’s why steel oats is better than instant. etc.
          Agree on the juicing. Nothing to be gained by drinking orange juice, in my estimation. High sugar and no fiber to “temper”.

          1. Jackie, I read about white flour many moons ago…as a teen. I still remember the line about white “enriched” flour being so void of nutrition that insects wouldn’t even eat it. I have to refrigerate (or freeze) my bulk whole grains to keep insects from eating them. Any amount left out becomes food and nesting grounds for all types of small critters that crawl and fly. But, no insect EVER gets in whit flour. They know it’s not food… but we don’t.

            I used to buy steel cut oats but to save much moola started buying groats in fifty pound bags. Lintels and flaxseed come in twenty-five pound bags. My pets are healthy due to the ground flaxseed.

            I skip the OJ but do add some lemon juice concentrate to my drinking water.

            1. appreciate the headzup on the groats, and, like you, I would like to buy oat groats, but here in Lima, Peru, is difficult for me. I see “traigo” groats, which is wheat, but because of my Spanish language limitation, cannot seem to find anything but wheat or barley groats. And, my storage space is serverly limited, but, that’s OK, because at the markets here, I can walk everyday and buy what I need. The first image is a typical “stall” in the market that sells “dry” products. It’s all there, everything. And almost free. The 2nd image is wheat, by the way, 2.80 soles in a $, so that’s about $1.75 for a kilo, 2.2 lbs. The rear “bin” is “instant” oatmeal, I can really find nothing else. I think it’s about 4 soles a kilo too. So eating beans, lentils, grains, is a slam dunk.

              1. Sounds like Peru would be a great place to retire. Food seems to be dirt cheap! If steel cut oats are as cheap as the other foods then maybe groats aren’t so important/ If you seek groats, keep in in they may be sold as “horse feed”. I used to ride quite a lot and my horse wouldn’t go back in the stable without first flipping the feed bin door open and grabbing a bite of groats before he was put in his stall. They’re the same groats I buy in bulk for human consumption.
                Here in the USA veggie burgers made with beans and rice and rolled oats is pretty tasty. Also, everyone seems to crave, “mock tuna”. I have it weekly. I sometimes have the soy protein burgers and mock turkey…al of it makes good sandwiches. I recently (last year) discovered a “new” condiment, “Slawsa”. It’s cabbage (slaw) with spices. It comes in glass jars (relatively small company) in tow varieties, “regular” and ‘spicy”. I put hem on vegan burgers and vegan hot dogs…and any sandwich. I may try reverse engineering the recipe and make my own. I haven’t heard anyone else talk about it. I’m surprised Lindsay Nixon or one of the orhte vegan chefs hasn’t already come up with their recipe for Slawsa.

                1. Yes, fruits/veggies/fish is dirt cheap here. Strawberries now in season, about $1.30 a kilo! And, mangoes are back too. I love them. No, there is no chance to get any soy pretend thing, burger, hotdogs, nothing. And anything imported, like peanut butter, is pricy. So, the slawsa isn’t even available. But, we have bunches of soy beans, and have made my own soy “milk” before. Guess I could just progress and make my own “soy burger” or what. But, I don’t have room in my stomach for that, after the 40g fiber that I try to ingest every day. But, thx for headz up as usual. I might just make it back to U.S. one day and have need for the advice.

        3. Could not be more wrong. You can get the benefit of a whole head of Kale, carrots, spinich, swiss chard, apple, ginger, garlic, celery, cabbage, parsley, I use 11 different veggies,… in one BIG glass of juice. I could send you a pic of the size of the veggies I cut up and good luck eating them all at once. lol

      2. I agree. You hit the nail right on the head. But juicing is good for people with digestive maladies or those who want a shot of the *good stuff*, especially greens. But you need blending as well. Plenty of other ways to get fibre. Cheers!

    2. Dr. Essie is a wonderful leader regarding nutrition. I think he is a little off here. I would look into Dr. Fuhrman’s thoughts….Blending gives so many more surfaces for digestion to take place. Chewing is good…..”chew your smoothies”….but the digestive process is so complex, it is one part….and with so much goodness in what is in the smoothies/especially compared to what so many others eat/for one it is more likely that we will consume the combination/and may not have the time to chew through a bushel of such foods. Julieanna Hever, too has some great insights regarding smoothies, and one of my very favorites, who used green smoothies to recover from cancer: Caryn Hartglass, REAL, Responsible Eating And Living/many great podcasts/and talks about Greens on her homepage; a big fan of Fuhrman’s and Greger’s. Check out NutritionFacts.org.

      Check out the “Raw Family”/Green Smoothies are their forte: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawfamily.com%2Fgreen-smoothie%2Fgreen-smoothie-questions&ei=6w9RVJuBH8GryATZvYDADQ&usg=AFQjCNHwlM9SbrT8_aV56DJkU1fEKPo9Lw&bvm=bv.78597519,d.aWw

      1. One of my challenges here, is that there is so little scientific evidence for or against. Dr. Essylstyn may, therefore, as so often is the case be shooting from the hip on this smoothie issue. But so are the supporters. It seems that unless there are studies about non-fruit smoothie drinkers vs. veggie eaters that are long term we won’t know for sure.

      1. Not quite…in juicing you lose most of the “insoluble fiber”….but…NOT so with the “insoluble fiber”…some of the BEST fiber around!

    3. I think he is wrong. I have been making smoothies and live of mostly fruit and veggie smoothies since I adopted a plant based diet 3 years ago. Since that time I haven’t been sick. Before that I was sick all the time. Since a kid I have had issues with nasal and chest congestion, and would get a cold and the flu often. Since I adopted a plant base diet revolving around mostly making fruit and vegetables smoothies I have lost and kept of nearly 30 lbs. A lot of that weight was in my intestines. I consume around 2600 calories a day and 1800-2000 of that is from fruit smoothies. My blood results have been coming back as excellent since I adopted a plant based diet and my sugar levels and my cholesterol levels are excellent. Actually everything is on the excellent side. At 47 years old I am back boxing and I box most of the times with kids in their 20’s and my stamina and conditioning are much better than theirs, and my stamina and conditioning was not like that before I adopted a plant based diet. The knock on smoothies is a bunch of garbage. I will be boxing in tournaments and in order to do so I had to do a stress test and I had to pass a diabetes test and other age and health related test to allow me to box at my age. The Dr was amazing and said my heart reacts like a 20 year old. The blood sugar spike is bull. All sugars spike you blood, but whole fruits and smoothies don’t keep it spiked. I am going to go on a campaign to have these Dr’s put their money where there mouth is and challenge them on health and physical tests of any kind. DON”T listen to these people. Make your fruit smoothies. At 47 I know stay energized through the whole day. My mind is clear, my breathing is clear, my heart and lungs are super strong.

      1. You may be correct, but I found that I had to eliminate the fruit smoothies, because my blood sugar did spike the next day. That was true even though I was using mostly berries which have a bit less sugar. So I am only drinking green smoothies now, and eating my fruit.

        1. Did you try making your smoothies with more than just fruits? Any nuts or seeds will lower the GI.
          Consider adding cocoa (I use raw cocoa), and other ingredients, no just fruits. I make them with oat milk.

    4. If you just washed your teeth before your breakfast smoothie, you wouldn’t have bacteria in your mouth anyway. There is the part of mixing food with your salivary enzymes, and that I guess can be important (if you aren’t taking enzyme supplements) So one must resist the urge to just gulp down the smoothie, if you take your time, you should get the benefits, plus in general you’ll be able to eat more fruit and/or vegetables than you would otherwise, and as Dr. Greger says, eat them the way you’ll eat the most!

      Also I think a good strategy is to add some ingredients in the smoothie that will lower the glycemic index, for example flax and chia seeds.

    5. I agree. This has been a concern of mine with juicing, blending, etc. Dr Gregor has touched upon this in one video that I know of. He talked about how a compound is created only when chewing broccoli in your mouth which has beneficial detoxifying effects on the liver. Like is said, digestion starts in the mouth… but you gotta chew!

      The main benefit of juicing and blending produce is that people who normally wouldn’t consume this much are doing so with these devices. So, it may in fact be a net gain. And you see the stories of healing from juicing. My guess is this is due to flooding the body with nutrients which may not be possible from simply chomping down whole fruit. Granted, they are missing the nutrients Dr Gregor mentions but, again, it’s a net gain.

      1. But you don’t lose all the fiber, you retain a small amount of the insoluable fiber (which pretty mush just passes through) but retain almost all of the soluable fiber, which is the good stuff!

  7. Going through bouts with Trigeminal Neuralgia thus regular food intake is impossible due to pain. Got myself a Nutribullet and throw all veggies (raw) and fruits in. Contains all fibers just in liquid form. Never keep it is the fridge make only what I consume. Open to suggestions. Thank you.

      1. I have found that it keeps for a day in the refrigerator. Outside of hte refrigerator, it seems to quickly begin to ferment as evidenced by an increasing evervescence and slighlty sour taste.

      2. Apparently once fruits and vegetables are ground up, as in a juicer or blender, the mixture immediately starts to oxidise and lose its vitamin and mineral content.

    1. Sadly, his video was about juicing no blending; you are fine. It seems most folks here misunderstood the word juicing. He may have benefited the viewer by showing a typical juicer to illustrate his point. A bender is NOT a juicer. In your case a Nutribullet is a great tool and I use it a lot to blender fruits and vegetables for easier consumption. In fact I recall the Dr. mentioning that he makes a smoothie with habiscus tea in one of his videos.

  8. I find that putting together a veg/fruit smoothie to be quite rewarding. From spinach and kale, to adding in the various berries, I find that I am receiving what I feel to be quite fiber rich. I make it in the NutriBullet or the Ninja, not disposing of any of the fiber that we see getting thrown out with the advertised juicers. There are small bits that come through the straw as well. In addition, I am satiated for much longer. That does not mean I eliminate chewing on an apple or enjoying an orange, but the fact that I can make something healthy in the way of what I call a smoothie, has the necessary health benefits that I can appreciate. I do not agree that I am losing health benefits since I am not disposing of any fruit or vegetable fibers.

  9. Dr Greger argued here for smoothies towards the end. I heard someone say that the smoothies make sugars too readily available. Any substance to the claims? Or is it possible that the smoothies can somehow make the phyto-nutrients to easy to access. Anyone?

    1. Certainly more sugar is freed when blended. That’s why carrot juice tastes sweeter than carrots. But hey, if that’s the way you get more whole vegetables and fruits in your body, it is far, far better than not consuming them.

    2. well, I love my smoothies, although only pulse 1 time, so I call them ¨crunchies¨. Was worried about breaking up the fiber chains, and nulling it. I´ve read, don´t have the source, sorry, that grinding the fruit up and breaking the fiber up is inconsequential, that your mouth does the same thing, more or less. I´m still gonna make ´em, though, but just 1 pulse. Half fiber chains this way. ha ha. And maybe there´s a point in the slower digestion time in the whole fruit instead of the ground up stuff. Makes sense.

  10. The good doctor seems to be talking about store bought juices. I’ve read lots about all the good being removed from such juices. I would like to see something about juicing your own fruits and veggies. I have been juicing my own for about 8 months now and have lost about 30 pounds, have much more energy and have never felt better. I think he is giving juicing a bad rap without stating all the facts.

  11. I wish you had made a distinction between juicing fruits verses vegetables. Sure, juicing fruits is a bad idea considering the sugar levels and the need to retain the fiber for glucose regulation. However, vegetables have nutrients that are actually blocked by fiber. Which is why many tend to juice some vegetables in an effort to extract those nutrients and remove the blocking affect that fiber has in digestion.
    At this point I am getting a bit concerned with the flip/flog nature if these presentations. Not long ago you spoke of the value of kale juice. Am I supposed to now believe the kale juice is less nutritious than eating kale directly.
    Please refrain from stigmatizing juicing except when speaking specifically about a fruit or vegetable with supporting evidence. A general statement against juicing vegatibles runs counter to all the current information we have seen to date, and is very unnerving.

      1. http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/40600.pdf Page 12, 6.1. Nutrients absorption.
        This study is typical of the well known impact of fiber on nutrient uptake, which is negative. This is why some folks choose to incorporate vegetable juicing. I personally don’t live on a liquid diet, but I do enjoy the benefits of an occasional vegetable juice, just for this reason.

        1. I think that fiber probably does reduce the uptake of nutrients, but I think Dr. Greger has presented numerous great arguments for fiber nonetheless. This video presents additional ones.

          Ultimately, very little is proven about diet with much specificity. Some generalities seem well supported, including the benefits of high fiber plant based diets for overall health and reduction of chronic illness. So I think arguing against fiber is almost silly.

          I recently saw the chief of endocrinology at McGill University medical school. I told him I seemed to be beating my diabetes with lots of green leafy vegetables in smoothies. He said “spinach has too much nitrites (he may have said nitrates)”. You shouldn’t eat so much. A resident who was one of his students said “It’s only the nitrates from prepared meats that are bad. Not the green leafy ones.” Thus correcting him, and earning his great enmity.

          So arguing against the prevailing evidence and therefore against fiber consumption, or advocating against a plant based diet is probably incorrect.

    1. I think it’s safe to trust the bacteria in our gut to free those nutrients from the fiber. What if many of those nutrients get destroyed by stomach acid if freed instead in a blender (if that can even be effective in “freeing” for most of them), and can’t reach the small or even large intestine to be absorbed in the right areas of the gut?

      1. http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs-wm/40600.pdf Page 12, 6.1. Nutrients absorption.
        This study is typical of the well known impact of fiber on nutrient uptake, which is negative. This is why some folks choose to incorporate vegetable juicing. I personally don’t live on a liquid diet, but I do enjoy the benefits of an occasional vegetable juice, just for this reason. Also see Dr. Garson’s research on the benefits of vegetable juicing on cancer.

    2. Sara, I completely agree that much more clarification needs to be made by Dr Greger in future videos concerning this issue of juicing vs blending (smoothies), and fruits vs veggies used. I am curious about how much science-backed information is out there on this subject.It appears that others are as well.

    3. I agree with you. So many people have cured cancer & other chronic illness just by drinking vegetable juice. I wonder what Dr. Greger have to say about that?

  12. I’m curious about coffee. As I understand it, coffee has a lot of antioxidant polyphenols. So much in fact, that it is the #1 dietary sources for many people. But drip brewed coffee has no fiber. How do the polyphenols get out of the coffee beans an into the liquid coffee if they are bound to the fiber in the beans? Would ground coffee beans have a lot more polyphenols than the brewed coffee, and if so, would it be better to consume them?

  13. Ever since I’ve gotten my Blendtec, I’ve been eating FAR more veggies and fruits.
    For example, this morning I had a serving each of blueberries, carrots, spinach and broccoli… I’m probably getting 10 or more servings a day in now.

    I’ve never felt more energetic.

    People are saying that pulverizing fruits/veg removes nutrition, but I’m not convinced. Where does it all go then?

      1. You probably know Rich Roll – I think he was the guy who once blended an avocado pit in his Vitamix – and drank it……

    1. I have a love-hate relationship with my Vitamix, but it is more on the love side. I’ve recently had the opportunity to get to know a Blend-tec too. While the Blend-tec has some advantages over the Vitamix, in the end, I decided I liked my Vitamix much better. I thought I would share this in case someone is making such a purchasing decision now and wants a personal opinion.

      I’m never able to say in one word what could be said in a few hundred instead.

  14. This is out of the transcript. Hope it helps the confusion.

    Studies like this, in which Harvard researchers found the consumption of whole fruits such as blueberries, grapes, and apples was significantly associated with a lower risk of type 2 diabetes, whereas greater fruit juice consumption was associated with a higher risk, highlight the dramatic difference between eating whole fruits and just drinking fruit juice.

    If you eat apples, your cholesterol drops, compared to drinking apple juice, BUT leave just a little of the fiber behind—cloudy apple juice—and it makes a difference.

    Nonextractable polyphenols, usually ignored, are the major part of dietary polyphenols. Most polyphenol phytonutrients in plants are locked to the fiber.

    These so-called missing polyphenols make it down to our colon and are then liberated by our friendly flora, and can then get absorbed into our system. The phytonutrients in fruit and vegetable juice may just be the tip of the iceberg.

  15. That is the best ever video, ever, ever, ever! Getting this information is key to eating whole foods and answers so many questions that come up about the why of eating whole, unrefined and unprocessed foods. Thank you!

  16. I am in line with the comments regarding the demonizing of juicing in all circumstances and for all purposes. Let’s be clear: by far, it is nearly always better to personally process (chew) the whole food in as close to its originally harvested form. However, like a few of these comments imply, the devil is in the details, and there are circumstances and purposes where this is not the best way to consume the specific phytochemicals needed from produce and that purpose is when one is treating Cancer. If the Drinker is relatively healthy, daily maintenance smoothies with produce in it, is sufficient. You will be getting far fewer produce items per day and this will not be very expensive for a huge improvement from the SAD. But when the Drinker happens to be in the position of needing to use plant phytochemicals to reverse Actively Growing Cancer, then this is a whole other reality and the intervention plan needs to reflect this difference. Here’s how this difference in processing produce can turn an excellent daily smoothie habit into a top-tier Cancer treatment protocol……
    When you are In the beginning stages of a self-administered cancer reversal diet (approximately the first few months), when everyone around you is saying you’re crazy for not going down the conventional treatment route, you need to set yourself up for some immediate positive results. It’s a matter of personal psycho-spiritual survival and its a great way to shut everyone up so you can concentrate on what you are doing – it will take a year of intense focus, retraining, and diverted resources – you did not get cancer overnight and the changes are on multiple fronts – not simply taking your silver bullets on time or showing up for chemotherapy sessions. The fastest way to shrink a tumor (or reverse internal cancer symptoms, blood work, or diagnostic tests) is to exponentially increase one’s consumption of the brightest colors of raw produce. This concept is not an Internet entrepreneur’s pipedream; it is at the core of every credible Alternative Cancer Treatment Center’s program. It is these dark/bright colors in produce which are the universally agreed upon principle treatment for reversing any cancer, and this is true the world over where people have been flying for treatment for decades, as well as with the high-end Alternative Cancer Treatment Centers evolving here in NA. Sure, if you have mega-bucks you can probably speed things up with any of a long list of adjunct therapies and doctor-formulated supplements, but the universal agreement is raw fruits and vegetables – LOTS of raw fruits and vegetables. How does one consume the highest doses of the brightest colors which are the actual medicines which reverse cancers? By using a high quality extracting juicer. The top-of-the-line is the 2-ton Norwalk press which has been shown to extract calcium out of carrots for example, leaving a very small mass of colorless, dry cellulose for your compost heap. But even a cheap centrifigul juicer bought at Wal-Mart will accomplish the same thing, albeit less cost-effectively because extractive juicing will enable you to consume exponentially more phytonutrients each day. There is just no way you could consume the volume of the deeply colored “juice” from greens (parsley/kale/spinach), purples (eggplant skin/purple cabbage/dark berries), reds, oranges, yellows (berries/beets/pomegranate/peppers/squash), and lots of white (garlic, celery, cucumbers). With this level of consumption of bright colors, nearly overnight, you can see cancer cells leaving your body and can prove it with blood work, visual exams, symptoms reversing This method of “juicing”: costs more for sure (you will be going through a bushel of organic produce per day, not a basket), but this will still be a tiny fraction of what you would be charged for this service at your better Alternative Cancer Treatment Centers – think of it as paying yourself to do your own world-class Alternative Cancer Treatment Protocol by yourself, for yourself, and to yourself for pennies on the dollar. There are literally thousands of people all over NA doing this as we speak, and what they are doing is saturating their body for weeks on end, with the most concentrated doses of plant phytochemicals KNOWN TO CURE CANCER (do your own research, own your plan, empower your life away from the medical-pharmaceutical-hosptial industrial complex). Later on, you can back off of the expensive Juicing task (takes hours/day), and can increase your whole food consumption. This is because the cancer cells are leaving your body faster than they are replicating and so the more dilute method of consuming these highly effective alternative phytochemotherapeutic dosages – through consuming the whole food – stir-fries, salads, even cooked veggies/soups will become your maintenance dose of phytochemicals. The fact is that when you need to use plants to reverse cancer, it is an immediate demand to get the highest doses of the brightest colors that produce can supply into our bloodstream the fastest and for an extended period of time, days on end. These phytochemicals work ! They work for prevention AND they work for the cure. It is true that adding key anti-cancer herbs/roots/barks/flowers/berries/mushrooms will increase the speed of a produce-juice daily regimen, but think about it: schizandra, turmeric, reishi, amla, etc., are vegetables too (just less flavorably mild than carrots, blueberies, etc.). If you already have cancer, you will need an exponentially higher level of the phytonutrients known/shown to reverse cancer cell growth in the fastest, most consumable way and other than distillation with heat or alcohol (denaturing), raw whole food extractive juicing is the #1 method to consume “Juice.” In one day of an intense cancer-reversal regimen, one can easily drink the juice (fresh extracted method is best such as with a Norwalk Press) from a bushel of produce, taking care to dilute down to around 40% carb with use of celery, leaves, cucumbers so the sugars of beets/carrots/apples do not cause insulin spikes. So, sacrificing some phytonutrients (that are bound in the fiber by using a blenderized whole food juicing process) is a small price to pay to stop cancer growth immediately. You would never be able to consume these medicinal levels of the best anti-cancer phytochemicals in any other way. Don’t get me wrong – I make and depend upon my quick whole food blender type smoothies for my everyday purposes of increasing my produce consumption, providing additional fiber, and getting more of what only whole plants can provide – phytonutrients. What I am outlining here is another purpose for these desired phytochemicals, and that is to elevate them to the level of being a phytochemotherapeutic agent which will out-perform any big pharma product on the market. And this expensive, wasteful practice of using extractor-type machines which leave behind terrific worm bin food, will not create a cancer treatment bill you will be paying off for the rest of your life, will not damage your organs and immune function as standard chemotherapy and radiation does, and as has been shown/reported recently in mainstream media, a phytochemotherapy approach to healing oneself of cancer will increase your overall lifespan AND quality of life after your self-designed phytochemotherapy period ends and you return to just being a daily whole food smoothie person.

    1. What a great presentation, Ariel, My grandfather, long ago in the fifties (I’m 73), said that the best diet is to include at least 3 different colors of vegies each day. Your account also corresponds with my own experiences coping with “cancer”. I was diagnosed with Stage 4 Throat Cancer about four years ago. I consulted ten oncologists during this time. Some of the docs marveled that I was still alive. But none seemed to take into account the relatively clean and sensiblie exercise and nutritional program I had been using. I ate, blended, juiced fresh vegies and fruits with some backyard weeds, and grains, dairy and meat. The docs offered five distinct treatment protocols. All were variants of the slash, burn and poison variety. They seemed to ignore my relatively good health and dismissed my view that the primary tumor had begun to shrink after three and a half years. That was only half the story. And, we must not be bound by any dogma…..and always remain alert to our changing world. In my case, the secondary neck tumor had continued to grow to the size of a jumbo avocado. Yeah. Nothing I did seemed to slow its growth. So, I finally agreed to be shot by the new Proton Radiaion Gun, wherein the radiation can be precisely directed. After one third of the shots, i quit….. fearing the cancer would spread, as it often does, to my lungs or brain. I haven’t looked back since…. though my doc said that quitting was worse then having no radiation at all. In fact, the primary throat tumor continued to shrink and now it seems to have finally died. The large neck tumor has shrunk to the size of a small prune. And all is well. So….eat well and stress not, for that is the real killer. And for those of us that cannot afford a Norwalk….I would suggest getting an old vegie grater. You can grate carrots, apples, peppers, garlic, celery, etc. to almost applesauce consistency.

  17. This video could be misinterpreted so need some clarification Dr G. Are we talking about fruit juices as found in store shelves versus extracted from a juicer (masticating or centrifugal)? The latter form of juicing does preserve the soluble fiber in fruits and veggies and removes only the insoluble bulk fiber does it not? Are these polyphenols attached to the bulk fiber or the soluble fiber? Those of us who juice know that when an apple or orange is juiced using one of the above forms of juicing the resulting juice looks nothing like that found in the bottles at the store which are presumably squeezed. I doubt juicing can be dismissed so easily. Would love to hear your thoughts.

    1. Good post. I use an angel juicer (masticating type) and the vegetable juices it produces are dense, dark, and strong. I generally don’t do fruit juices because they are more fun in smoothies or just to eat. However, veg juices are very nutritious as you pointed out. Think this video may need to be retracted.

      1. I agree Sara. I do throw in the occasional Apple when I juice veggies but fruit hours on smoothies for sure our eaten. I have seen many shows that involve MD panels who denounce juicing based on this all in one fiber theory. I am sure Dr G had some thoughts on this but anyone who had heard of Jay Kordich knows juicing veggies is good :-)

              1. notation: I am deleting your posts. You are breaking posting rules for this site. No name calling. Also note: if your posts are not polite, your posts are not appropriate.

            1. What’s the matter, Ravi? Are you upset? Why? Is it because you couldn’t refute the sources I posted? Gee, I’m so very sad for you. You’re a self-aggrandizing little twenty-something whose mommy and daddy are paying his way through charlatan-school, and you’re all fussed because you’ve been called out on your claims. Is that about right?

              Why aren’t YOU on the front lines fighting Ebola where it’s most deadly, honey? Get some balls and go to where the action is. Try your woo over there! I’d LOVE to see you battling Ebola with vitamin C and juicing!!


  18. Some forget that as we age, our digestive and absorptive efficiency decreases, due to decreased production of enzymes and acids. This fact would therefore make predigestive food preparation, such as blended smoothies, more likely to provide superior nutrient availability.

  19. Here’s another reason to stick to a VitaMix (includes the fiber when juicing) instead of a Norwalk Juicer –
    It appears that juice, when separated from it’s fiber, within about a half hour, has free methanol in it – and a small amount of that converts inside of you into formaldehyde – which is used for embalming – and you definitely don’t want that in your body.
    This is apparently why folks who drink lots of alcohol live longer too (read article for explanation).

  20. sorry but that is nonsense, ask Jay Kordich “the Juiceman” who is doing great at 90yo on raw and juicing. I am in my 70’s and juice veggies every day. For some reason smoothies are hard for me to digest, not sure why.

  21. I am a Juicing and Green Smoothie Junkie! I have a Breville Elite Juicer and a Vitamix Blender. In order not to waste the ffiber from Juicing I make veggie brownies!! So there is still hope to keep your fiber and all the good stuff that comes along with it!!!!

      1. There are a lot of recipes on-line. I just use about 90% pulp, two cups of juice from the juicing. Oats, Raisins, walnuts, cinnamon, ginger, honey, banana, cut apples and I press them firmly into a coconut greased pan and cook at 375 until the top is dry to the touch!! Simply and filling! They are good in the fridge for about 6 days.

  22. Once again, a video that provides me with information I didn’t know. Thank you!

    After reading some of the comments and criticisms below I would like to add that it seems helpful to be striving for the high bar of nutrition. Whole food > non-sugary smoothies > juice; okay, good to know!

    But for someone eating the typical Standard American Diet, adding a fresh green juice to their daily diet is probably really helpful. It seems like juice has a very high ratio of nutrition to calories. And sometimes doing an all juice diet for a few days helps me kick some food addictions and get back on track.

    So I’m not ready to dismiss freshly made juice as viable part of a healthy diet or its role in improving the health of society. It just may not be a part of the healthiest possible diet.

  23. Maybe plastic is an even better fiber substitute than suggested by the 1988 study, as it also contains a lot of phenols bound to the plastic particles, e.g. bisphenol A.


  24. Question: How do they supply the juices and pomace for the studies? Is it made on the time they drink it or chilled for later? Or is it packages/bottles of juice like the ones we find in the supermarket? And if they made it with a juice machine, was it the centrifuge or the grind and squeeze method? I tried to ope the full study, beyond the abstract, but couldn’t find how.
    Great info!! Keep them coming, Dr. Greger!! Thousand Thank yous! : )

  25. Hey fellows! Why don’t we crowd-translate these videos into other languages and make NutritionFacts a worldaround reference?
    They are transcribed as they come out, which makes it really easy for anyone who wishes to put it into another language.

    1. Rodrigo: Having these videos in other languages is a fantastic idea. I believe NutritionFacts already has a system in place for doing translations. If anyone is interested in being a translator for videos, I believe that the process is to post your interest in a comment under a video. The NutritionFacts staff should see it and get in touch with you to tell you how it is done.

      Would you like me to pass on your name as someone who wants to help translate – to make sure the staff see your interest? Or was there a particular 3rd part website/program that means “crowd-translate” you were suggesting get used?

      1. Hi Thea! Thank you for the update.
        I already do translations, some of NutritionFacts, between other subjects. The NutritionFacts translations I do I send them by email or comment with the link to the translation. Would be motivating to have more people doing it in other languages too. I use Amara.org as video translation platform.

        1. Now I understand.

          Thanks for your original post. I hope it inspires people to help out.

          Also, thanks for your work! I think all of the volunteers really make a difference for this site.

      1. Hi! I sent an email already, as I would like to help on translations more closely. Procedures, guidelines? Can you update me on how you collaborate on translations? Maybe I could keep a portuguese channel for nutritionfacts.org videos? Thanks for all you do too. Thank you Thea also.

  26. I think that demonizing ALL juice/juicing is over simplifying the issue and throwing the baby out with the bath water. The sugar water juice you find in bottles on store shelves that has been filtered, heat pasteurized and has added sugar and other preservatives is not the same as fresh cloudy extracted juice made at home with a juicer. When I make fresh pomegranate/apple juice at home it is this amazing purple cloudy thick drink teaming with nutrition and live enzymes… now compare that to the clear sugar water pom juice you find on shelves, not at all the same product. I bought my first juicer from watching Jay ‘the juiceman’ Kortich who is still alive and doing great today at over 90. He went 2 years living on JUICE ALONE. I juice fruits and veg a few times a week and it has only given me great health.

  27. I think this video is well done and extremely helpful. So many people, myself included before now!, think that juicing “just removes the fiber”. The understanding was: while fiber is important, you could get all the other benefits of the food (except the fiber) by juicing. And so, why not juice when you want/need a whole bunch of nutrients? That fiber just takes up so much space in the tummy. … Well, now we know one science-based answer to this question: polyphenol phytonutrients.

    I understand that lots of people love their juicing and that in some cases, juicing may even make some sense. But this video provides some great information that everyone should keep in mind when making decisions like: Should I buy a juicer or blender (since I can only afford one, only want one, or only have a place for one)? Note that in addition to making fiber-rich smoothies, a blender has lots of other practical uses. A blender is not a single purpose appliance, like I think a juicer.

    Re: The conversation here: I appreciate reading people’s take on juicing at home vs store-bought as well as their personal reasons for juicing. Those contributions are an important part of the conversation and help expand the story/issue for people who come to this site. However, those opinions do not mean that there is anything wrong with this video. The video provides helpful information on one aspect of the issue – which is pretty much what all of Dr. Greger’s videos do. NutritionFacts uses a format that I personally find helpful. By getting details on one aspect of nutrition at a time, I am able to absorb the information – and over time, I build up a very nice big-picture. I am just careful to always keep in mind the strengths and weaknesses of the format used on this site. A format that works well for many people, not just me. (Thank you Dr. Greger.)

    1. If you eat apples, your cholesterol drops, compared to drinking apple juice, BUT LEAVE JUST A LITTLE OF THE FIBER BEHIND—CLOUDY APPLE JUICE—AND IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

      Most seem to ignore this sentence from the transcript.

      1. Jean: You may be right. I don’t know. What I do know and fully sympathize with is: there is often a lot of information packed into one of Dr. Greger’s videos. It is easy to miss some of the details. I know I often find it helpful to review a video multiple times – or to watch the video and then read the transcript later.

        Have a good weekend.

  28. How about the video on this site that mentioned a study where participants took 3-5 shots of kale juice a day and saw significant improvements in their cholesterol levels? Surely this wasn’t due to fiber, therefore there has to be some positive nutrient benefits from juicing. Those in the study most likely wouldn’t have consumed that much raw kale (30 lbs in a few months ) on their own. To me, this means juicing is a good alternative if you don’t have the time/appetite to consume that much roughage, not to mention what it could do to your digestive system.

  29. What is the ORAC (anti-oxidant) potential with fiber rich, live culture ferments. An example such as home-made sourkrout. Should a fiber be included into soy yogurt? Of coarse I’ve heard of “Natto”, a fermented soy bean. Tempeh is a ferment I believe… has fiber.

  30. Are all juices “equal”? Is there any study about fresh juices made with slow juicing machines like Tribest Slowstar or Omega juicers?

  31. Hola, disculpe pero mi ingles es pésimo asi que, a favor de la interculturalidad, emito mi comentario en lengua nativa.

    Dr, el jugo al parecer, segun su video, genera perdidas importantes en el valor nutricional de las frutas, pero que hay del uso de una batidora o una minipimer en vez de un “saca jugos” clásico?
    Muchas gracias por sus interesantes videos y recomendaciones.
    Desde ya difundiendo estos interesantes datos en Chile

  32. Guessing the juice they referred to was the crap sold from stores, which is sugar laden concentrate and not from using a real juicer… Too often specifics like this are not defined in studies referred to-way too often.

  33. Great presentation on the comparison between the whole fruit and fruit juices. I suspect that the fruit juices were pasteurized. This is very different than raw juices extracted from fresh fruit. I think that there are some key differences here. For example, diabetics respond more positively to raw juices than pasteurized fruit juices.

  34. Did the juicing research cover freshly juiced fruit and veggies or was this pasteurized processed factory made juices? I use a champion juicer and while it removes the majority of the fiber there is way more left than when you drink a store bought juice. Just wondering. Thank you.

  35. Did I just answer my own question about blending fruits for smoothies? Are they equal to the whole fruit being eaten? I’ve said “yes”, because I like smoothies. But, in answering a question yesterday, I said that mashed potatoes have a higher glycemic index than whole potatoes, that’s because the starch molecules have been broken apart in the mashing, etc. So, thinking about smoothies, is it analogous? Only not the starch molecules, but the fiber. So, in searching, I found this:
    ” Factors That Raise The GI Of Foods
    PROCESSING: The GI’s of carbohydrates can rise due to the processing of certain foods. Any carbohydrates that are puffed, made instant, or gelatinized, will have a much higher GI than if they weren’t processed. An example is a rice cake. That has a glycemic index almost as high as glucose, about as high
    of a GI as you can get! Can you believe that, and for all this time people have been swallowing bags of rice cakes not knowing they are
    recognized by the body as worse than table sugar.” from bodybuilding.com.

    Just a thought.
    We are protected from the fructose in fruit by the “packaging”, i.e. fiber. Have we just destroyed the packaging by smashing up the fiber?
    can someone help. Is this just “overthinking” the issue?
    aint’ it fun?

    1. Some of us have imperfect dentition and can’t easily chew certain whole foods. Such as apple skins just ball up in my mouth and frozen blueberry skins go down in chunks. So my way of getting the benefit is to puree apples and frozen blueberries together (I make it thick and slightly chunky) and enjoy it on my whole grain cereal. Some of us have to pick what is the best way for us to ingest the fruits and veges we need to have healthier bodies. May not be ideal but is best for us.

  36. This video validates that those slow masticating juicers are overrated and overpriced. I use a Kuvings Centrifugal juicer + a blender. Juice the hard fruits/veggies like apples, carrots, celery, beets, cucumbers, etc and then blend leafy greens with it. I used a slow juicer for 3+ years and it was a chore.

    1. Actually I’ve had a regular centrifugal juicer and a twin blade juice and with the twin blade the juice lasts much longer. With the centrifugal the juice oxidized much faster

      1. Greetings,

        Exactly right. The better the juicer the more nutrients so it lasts longer.
        Centrifugal : 7 to 12% Single blade: 26% Double blade: 65% Hydraulic press: 85%+ the pulp is so dry it Looks and feels like a small Square of carpet. So few nutrients that animals won’t eat the pulp.

  37. When you #juice you can use the pulp in your #smoothie and add at the end the juice ( to prevent the oxidation when it’s blended ) i also add at the last 10 seconds a blend of 27 organic superfoods and the best organic brown rice protein.

  38. Wow. This topic – blending whole vs. extracting “juice” has really hit a nerve in us. I tried to introduce in the beginning of this conversation, several points which have been picked up by too few people, and interestingly, the ones who did notice what I had to contribute are Cancer Self-Treatment and/or Older Americans. First, the main question is whether one is Actively Treating Cancer(s). This one fact requires special consideration, and based on the widely reported actual “results” of millions of people (not just the few who entered this conversation here), this is what makes Dr. G’s video so provocative. “Active Cancer” happening means that unless and until one actively faces this FACT and the question of What Is My Plan To Address It?, this choice of blenderizing vs. extracting “juice” from the highest value fruits and vegetables (darkest & brightest colored ones) is really not the right question and can easily become just another stalling tactic (intellectualizating adinfinitum, seeking silver bullet answers, wanting others to tell us what to do, etc.). The Correct Question is: how can we get more of the darkest/brightest produce items down our throats every day until I can produce evidence this is turning around for me? Here is where I am coming from: As per an international study several years ago, Americans are the Lowest Consuming Vegetable Eaters out of 32 nations, and spend less time in their kitchens interacting with produce than anyone (including the economically disadvantages countries who eat to live and the economically advantaged ones with every facilitative kitchen convenience. So, the goal is to figure out how YOU can break away from the pack – how to actually change lifelong habits which are continually conditioned into us every hour. Everyone has realistic psychological, financial, social, and time constraints. So, if by using a whole food blender approach, and limiting yourself to consuming 10% of the darkest/brightest produce that one could potentially consume by using an extractive “juicer” machine (10xs the total produce consumption is an estimate – depends upon what/how much), then this would be a killer change goal for your daily life, wouldn’t it? The point is, ANYTHING we do along this line will be a step in the right direction because we have no where to go but up (#32 compared to 32 nations studied). Somewhere along the way in this long string of comments, nearly everyone missed the main point which is that getting much more of these phytochemicals into our bodies is THE ONLY ANSWER. My point has been all along, that Dr. G’s video missed this small but important detail re: Active Cancer vs. wanting to improve one’s chances of not getting cancer, increasing our anti-inflammatory eating, and stepping up our game in just getting more produce into our diets. I just hope people remember this point when they or someone they know gets cancer, because the #1 way to beat it will be to saturate your cells with the brightest/darkest colored produce in every way you can: eating them whole, juicing them (Norwalk, etc.), blenderizing them (VitaMix) soups/smoothies/sprouts, encapsualizing them in the form of powders, and if you have the money: buying known formulas based on concentrated versions of these same phytochemicals which are available everywhere now and which you will be buying at “super-retail” prices if you take off a month at an Alternative Cancer Treatment Center in Arizona or Mexico. ONE LAST POINT: when one destroys the cell wall of a plant it instantly initiates what is essentially a rotting process. Think of it – when you smash a leaf it rots first in the bag inside the refrig, right? Rotting is progressive and involves more than just loss of nutrients – includes invitation for pathogenic reproduction and harmful byproducts for someone with active cancer and/or trying to avoid cancer – not a good thing. Raw Juicing, and Raw Blenderized drinks really need to be used AT THAT TIME (not stored, frozen, etc.). The other thing is the known fact of Raw Produce carrying ample pathogens even if washed, peeled – carrot skins are famous as are around the core area of any piece of produce but all produce exterior is rampant with many pathogens. This small but significant issue can be extremely important to an Active Cancer person using raw produce in any way because you will soon find out in your Cancer self-treatment, that you have numerous other abnormal, harmful symbiotic infections and your body is tired of fending them off – cancer is the end of a long line of break-downs. As a recently retired Sustainable CSA Farmer, I can tell you it is impossible to avoid introducing various viruses, molds, bacteria, etc., into one’s body even if you pick it and walk in and juice it. Active Cancer people already KNOW they have co-existing harmful infections….already know their enzymes are out of wack or missing, and therefore, it is essential when consuming Raw Produce, to simultaneously increase the broadest spectrum of probiotics while we are rearranging our soldiers to favor the Good Guys. I have know many people who failed to add raw garlic to their juice or buy probiotics or get into kimche, etc., and could never get ahead of their dysbiosis no matter how much of the beautiful bright/dark produce they consumed every day.

  39. The subject of juicing reminds me of a similar question, that of drying and pulverizing berries and other foods. Some of the foods I eat in powder form are amla, acai, and reishi mushrooms. Are you still getting a benefit from powdered berries? Does a teaspoon of amla powder count as a serving of fruit?

  40. Good info. Thank you Dr.!

    I have been told that the high powered blenders “smash the cell walls” and release all the nutrients.

    Vegetable juice (not fruit), smoothies and whole raw seems like the way to go.

    Removing fiber has some good points..

    I can make pure ice cubes of kale juice (high speed blender/nut milk bag stainer) and get a lot of nutrients with every meal..

    Eating an equivalent amount of raw kale would not be easy.

  41. Sara, you need to re-read that paper as you have misrepresented the findings in there. In fact that paper has nothing to do with the current debate. The fact that people use blenders and juicers is a testament to their lack of understanding of the role that whole and real foods play in optimal nutrition.

  42. For those of you hanging your hat on your beliefs you should watch Steven Hawking’s BBC program on the Universe. You can believe whatever you want and new scientists discover or come up with new theories all the time so I wouldn’t hold on too tight as we are in the age of discovery and what is true today may not be tomorrow. I prefer to wade through the advertising and objectively look at the material being presented.

    Just as a quick addition to the video, a scientific study was done on the antioxidant levels of all the so-called super juices being sold and as I have suspected, none of them held up. In fact, grape juice from the supermarket came up on top and that is not a very good recommendation as it is still a very poor choice.

  43. I agree that whole fruit is best , and that juice which is produced within industry is NOT very good , but what about JUICING Whole fruits and vegetables, I’ve started juicing using a masticating juicer, but I keep getting conflicting information.
    so i juice my vegetables and fruit and make about 3 liters of juice in one go which lasts me about 3/4 days, I am not sure if its a placebo effect, but i feel more energized and have better workouts at the gym. however, speaking with friends who are super intelligent and graduates from Cambridge colleges say that the nutrients once masticated are of no value and that after the juice has been oxidised no minerals left worth the effort.
    Has any research been done on the subject of juicing as home ?
    What are your views of the subject of fresh masticating juicing at home ? is there any benefit ?

    1. Good question. Juicing whole fruits and veggies will have similar results. It seems the polyphenols are really “locked” to the fiber. See Gina’s comment above. I think if eating tons of whole fruits and vegetables than juicing is fine, but relying on it for fruit and veggie intake may not fare well long term.

  44. If you want a lot of fruit the blender is generally best. If you want a lot of vegetables the juicer is probably best. A lot of people use both.

  45. I’ve heard that juicing vegetables has a lot of benefits….is there a difference between juicing fruits and juicing vegetables, assuming we are also eating a lot of fresh vegetables in addition to this juice; that is the juice is just an extra, not a replacement?

    1. Hi Gina. Do I know you or is this another Gina? ;-) Forgive me.

      If you are eating tons of fruits and veggies than I see no concern with additional juicing. The problem occurs when relying on juiced fruits and vegetables or rather drinking juice concentrates and counting that as a serving of fruit.

  46. I was wondering if this also applies to juicing vegetables. I’ve heard that there are a lot of benefits to juicing vegetables, assuming one is also eating a lots of whole vegetables. If the veggie juice is in addition to the vegetables, rather than a replacement, are there benefits?

    1. The fiber and polyphenol connection would likely translate to vegetables and other food groups. We know when we strip rice and other grains (refined) they lose nutrition. There would probably be a benefit of the vegetable juice in additional to tons of whole veggies. Go for it!

  47. The juice thing is over blown a bit, even down in the discussions here.

    We cannot lose site of the little detail that is covered right around second 35 to 40.

    Initially the first result with juice was clear juice, like what you would buy at a store. Filtered, pasteurized, and probably stored for months before hitting the store shelves.

    The second test which does almost as good as whole fruit was juice with some of the solid matter intact, such as juicing at home and not filtering the juice. Using apples, for example, in my slow juicer there is no such thing as clear juice. Sure you lose some of the pulp and fiber, but there is still plenty left in the juice output. Even many of the pigments from the skins come out the juice side. Juice a red delicious and the output is pink. There are lots of solids still in the juices that I have made though the machines that I have owned. Same with the juicers that my father has used over the years.

    I think more testing needs to be done before the commentary to juice is burned into people’s brains. Perhaps the verbiage in the video should be “store bought filtered juice” rather than just “juice”.

    1. Great points! Thanks for the comment. I use a juicer in summer months when feeling ambitious. So I agree homemade juice is much better than store bought. I still eat plenty of fruits and vegetables but sometimes a nice carrot-apple-ginger-lemon juice is just what the doctor ordered!

      1. Oh yes. Ginger in most anything is a nice spicy bite!

        I typically take the juice that I make and use it in my whole fruit / green smoothies. I like smoothies, not cold soup and since carrots and beets don’t exactly make for a smooth smoothy, they gotta be squeezed first!

  48. My wife and I have been juicing for almost four years. We also maintain diets that are almost completely free of animal products although I confess to an occasional cup of coffee with cream – infrequently. When we juice, we use mainly vegetables with an apple or two thrown in. Our juices retain a fair amount of solids which precipitate out and require shaking the juices before drinking. Would we be better off drinking vegetable smoothies as opposed to juicing?

  49. Interesting video. My question is: Are fruit juices also not recommended because of the sugar content? Are fruit juices bad for the liver? And if so, why? Thank you.

  50. I have just read a 2014 paper which concludes that the level of polyphenols remaining after juicing depends on the item being juiced, and whether whole fruit or peeled fruit was used. The paper only considers four fruits (apples, pears, persimmons and mandarin oranges) but there are differences which are fruit-specific. Apples and pears had higher polyphenols after juicing (cf blending) whereas the reverse was true for persimmons and mandarins. I would like to see a similar study of vegetable types before reaching any overall conclusions about juicing always resulting in reduced polyphenols. Here’s the ref: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4103735/ Note that the abstract seems to contradict the research findings!

  51. Critique my smoothie. I completely blend organic spinach or spring mix with a cup of water. Then I add fruit, including mango, banana, and pineapple. Then I use the quick surge mode to partially break down the added fruit, leaving small chunks, to the point that chewing the smoothie is necessary. Is this a good solution?

  52. I don’t think we can get people to stop juicing, so what can we do with the left behind pulp? I currently dehydrate small patties and use them as dog treats but is there any benefit to juice pulp for humans nutritionaly? There are so many people that are starving, I can’t help but think this could be an easy win. I appreciate any comments.

  53. i need some help, i could not find answer in the discussion groups. if i can only get my kids to drink juice and not smoothies it is still good right? the sophorophine (not sure on spelling) talked about on chopping broccoli (the wack and wait method) do i lose that nutrient when i juice vs blending. is there a 3rd option to get broccoli sprouts into my kids besides eating?

  54. If juicing is bad then what about Gerson therapy and so many people who have cured cancer and other chronic diseases just by vegetable juicing. I also saw Fat, Sick & Nearly dead movie. In that movie Joe cross went on a 60 day juice fast and cured his illness. Chris has beat cancer by juicing. He has a lot of videos in his website & youtube channel “Chrisbeatcancer”. Also Dr. Andrew Saul who is the Mega Vitamin man raised his children & grand children with lots of vegetable juicing.

    After seeing all this i also recently started juicing. I also use the blender sometimes. And i can feel the difference. Especially when i drink broccoli smoothie. I have a very good bowel movement.

    My question is what does Dr. Greger have to say about Juice fasting? Is it safe? How long is safe? You don’t recommend juicing at all?

  55. Is there a juicer that does not extract the pulp out? Am I wrong to think that the pulp is fiber and is good for you? Every juicer I’ve seen extracts the pulp.

  56. Depends entirely on the juicer:
    Centrifugal juicers(department store) get between 7 and 12% of the nutrients.
    Single auger like champion gets 26%
    Double auger like Green Star gets 62-72%
    Hydraulic like Norwalk 2400.00US gets 86%+
    Salvestrols are likely saved in the hydraulic.

    1. Nutrition delivery from juice made with a high end hydraulic juicer is immediate for 2 reasons: 1) juice particles have the opposite electric charge to your gut wall charge so it is attracted to the gut wall and enters immediately. There is little to no energy needed from your body to get these nutrients. Very good for anyone who is sick or has low energy.
      2) because there is no fibre, digestion doesn’t take 3 hrs as with food or smoothie.

      NOTE: certifical juicers, besides putting a charge on the the juice particles that is the same as the gut wall, contains. Dry little nutrition: as low as 7%

  57. What about the theory that juicing with a slow juicer (in particular vegetables, max 1 fruit) is more nutritious than smoothies because of better assimilation and because of oxidation issues with blenders?

  58. So does blending whole fruits and eating the whole blended material (the entire fruit) also remove fiber (smoothies without added water)?

  59. Hi J,

    I am a volunteer for Dr. Greger. Thank you so much for your question.

    Blending fruit does not reduce the fiber content of the food. Juicing on the other hand, removes almost all of the fiber, as well as the nutrients that are “stuck” in that fiber. Blending is overall much better than juicing.

    I hope that helps answer your question!

    1. The nutrient levels in the juice and the nutrients left in the pulp depend entirely on the quality of the Juicer: centrifugal = 7 to 10% in the juice. Single auger = 20 to 26%. Double auger = 60 to 68%. Hydraulic press = 80 to 86%. Even in the top Juicer some things are left in the dry pulp including most chemical or pesticide residue. Juicing as we know it today was created by Dr Norman Walker: hydraulic press. He was very weak and unable to eat much solid food. The energy it took for digesting whole food would use more energy than he had. Juicing provided instant nutrition without expending energy to obtain the nourishment. Juicing flooded cells with nutrition. No Juicer has yet beat the nutrient level since the late 1800’s. If you have healthy levels of energy you can afford the energy expended for the 3 hrs it takes to get nutrients out of food. Smoothies take a little less energy from your body than whole foods. Both juicing and smoothies have their place.

      1. Hi Davy,  I think you missed the point.  Information changes all the time. I believe the point is that we now know that almost 1/4 of the nutrients are ‘stuck’ to the fibers.  To get all of the nutrients, blenderizing is the best method. 

        1. I agree blending gives you all the nutrients. Great for people who have enough energy to wait for the body to sort through the blend, identify the fibres from the nutrients, digest them and distribute them through the blood stream to the cells. I blend every day.

          If I have a patient who is in critical condition such as 2nd or 3rd stage cancer for example and who has very little energy, I suggest juicing with a hydraulic press Juicer ( 85% + nutrients) first to gain instant energy without the body having to use energy for digestion.
          Once the patient has gained sufficient energy they can then blend as well.

          This is why Dr Walker, who had terminal cirrhosis of the liver decided to use juice first because he had little energy to spare for digesting food with fibre. He then gradually transitioned to an almost 100 % raw diet w juicing.

          In conclusion, there is no disputing that blended whole fruits and vegetables contain ALL the nutrients. The case for hydraulically pressed juice is best for people in critical health accompanied by energy levels that are so low they cannot spare any for usual digestion.

          Example: I witnessed a case involving a patient in an hepatic coma, (liver cancer 4th stage) medivacced from Japan to a Clinic in North America.
          I coffee enema and he was out of his coma. Then they fed him juices thru enemas as well because he could not take food by mouth. By the time I left the clinic he was up and joining everyone in the dinning room. (8 days)

          1. Yes, Davy  I would agree with you that if you are so weak from a debilitating disease, cold press juice is your best choice.  But other than that very narrow scenario, blenderizing is by far a better choice.  It’s important to know this because cold press juices are very hot, and trendy now.  But it is not nutritionally better than blenderizing.   Marketing is confusing people. 

  60. Just my 2 cents…I juice because I can’t possibly eat all the servings of plants that I am supposed to have through the day. I am only hungry about twice a day, and even then, there’s no way I can eat all that food. I’d be doing nothing but trying to stuff my face all day long. Putting it all in a smoothie is still going to be a lot of bulk. I usually juice a bunch of vegetables in the evening, and spend an hour or so sipping on it while I watch TV or mess with the Internet. I’ve tried vegetable smoothies, and gag on them. Not sure why, as I have no problem with a fruit smoothie every morning. Sorry, Doctor, I adore you and respect you as my number one go-to, but I’ll have to stick with my evening veggie juice. It’s a slow masticating juicer, so it’s not that bad. I add water to the green leafys as they’re going through, to make sure I get as much as possible out of it. And I run it through twice.

  61. Sorry if this has been asked, started to read the questions but it downwhirrled spiraled into an off-topic god vs evolution “discussion”.

    Can I replace juicing as a serving for a vegetable or fruit? I mostly drink Joe’s Mean Green Juice- 4 pieces of celery, 1 cucumber, 8 kale leaves, 2 apples, 1 inch of ginger, half a lemon.


  62. Hello Kimberly and thank you for your question,
    I am a family doctor with a private practice in lifestyle medicine and also a Health Support Volunteer for this website. If I understand your question, you are asking whether Trader Joe’s Mean Green Juice can be substituted for a serving of fruit or vegetable, when you are tallying up your daily intake. The answer is NO — which is what Dr. Greger tries to explain in the above video.

    This is because the process of “juicing” removes all of the fiber, plus all of the nutrients that are bound to that fiber. I went on-line to look up the nutritional analysis of Trader Joe’s Mean Green Juice. Here is it (notice the “0” next to “Dietary Fiber”):

    Serving Size: 1 bottle (450mL)
    Amount per Serving/My Daily Value
    Calories 100Kcal/6%
    Calories from Fat 0Kcal/0%
    Total Fat 0g/0%
    Saturated Fat 0g/0%
    Trans Fat 0g/0%
    Cholesterol 0mg/0%
    Sodium 320mg/14%
    Total Carbohydrate 20g/9%
    Dietary Fiber 0g/0%
    Sugars 11g/26%
    Added Sugars 0g/0%
    Protein 6g/12%
    Vitamin A 15000IU/300%
    Vitamin C 0mg/0%
    Calcium 400mg/40%
    Iron 2.7mg/15%

    Here is the ingredient list:
    kale juice, spinach juice, apple juice, cucumber juice, celery juice, lemon juice, ginger juice

    I hope this helps.
    Health Support Volunteer for NutritionFacts.org

  63. Has a study ever been done on the effects of adding the fiber back into juice in the form of ground flax seeds or ground hemp seeds?

    1. We are missing the original purpose of juicing: to give instant nutrition and thus energy, to a very ill person. The typical patient to be given top quality juice (from a hydraulic press juicer which delivers 86% or better of the nutrients) is a patient who is very weak and can’t spare any energy for digestion. If we put the fibre back in we cause the patient to spend the little energy he/she has to process the fibre. After the patient has gained sufficient energy, we introduce other forms of nutrition that require energy to digest.
      Juicing as invented by Dr Norman Walker was designed for himself because he was dying of cirrhosis of the liver and was very weak.

    2. Hi, Eloy Bueno. This study added fiber to orange juice as a way to get people to consume more fiber. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24941951
      The point of this video, however, is that there are other nutrients included with the fruit fiber discarded when juicing. Adding fiber from another source will not restore these nutrients. It is generally better to eat the whole fruit than to juice it, unless a person is too weak to eat and digest the whole fruit. I hope that helps!

      1. Exactly. Not much point in feeding a patient food that they are too weak to digest.
        Hydraulic Press juicing after the particular Food has been ground to a fine paste, as in the case of carrots for example, and then pressed by a hydraulic press yields close to 90% of all the nutrients in that food, including the phytochemical that protects the plants from funguses and moulds. These are especially useful to cancer patients : The British Cancer Research Institute. They call these substances Salvestrols.
        Oranges are particularly difficult to juice effectively.
        Leaving the pulp in the orange juice is a good idea.

  64. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3892506/

    This study was performed to compare the quality and functionality of broccoli juice as affected by extraction method. Broccoli juice was extracted using method I (NUC Kuvings silent juicer), method II (NUC centrifugal juicer), and method III (NUC mixer)

    Total polyphenols2) (mg/L) Total flavonoids3) (mg/L)
    Method I 1,226.24±36.74a4) 1,018.32±57.80a

    Method II 724.37±48.05b 616.64±26.44b

    Method III 723.79±47.44b 601.71±66.99b

    **In conclusion, our results indicate that the extraction method may influence the quality and functional properties of broccoli juice. Particularly, broccoli juice prepared using method I showed higher antioxidative, anticancer, and anti-diabetic activities than those prepared by methods II and III.

  65. Everywhere I turn recently I hear people touting the benefits of celery juice. I know that smoothies are better than juicing and just Eating whole vegetables is the best, but whenever I eat celery(or bell peppers), my stomach gets severely upset and so I never eat celery. Should I try juicing it? Is the current hype around starting your day with fresh celery juice worth paying attention to? Thanks!

  66. There is plenty of crossover and duplication of beneficial nutrients across the wide range of fruits and veggies. As an example, clinical evidence suggests that nicotine reduces the incidence of Parkinson’s disease. This doesn’t mean you need to smoke, since peppers and other night shade fruits contain small amounts of nicotine. Same with the celery: it is highly doubtful that celery has a unique nutrient not found in plenty of other fresh fruits and veggies. So simply eating a wide range of fresh fruits and veggies that you enjoy and make you feel well will provide all the benefits you seek. Avoid celery if you so choose. I don’t eat much celery either. And as you already noted, eat the whole fruit/veggie and avoid the juice.

    Dr. Ben

  67. You Guys are so great! Thank you all so much for this website!

    Would juicing remove protein from kale? I’m trying to get more protein from green sources, but I do not tolerate blended kale so well. Maybe juicing would be an option if I add the juice with some kale fiber to my vegetable smoothie?

    1. Hi I’m a RN health support volunteer. Thanks for your great question. There is no way you could destroy or remove the protein by juicing kale. What you destroy is the fiber and then it absorbs much faster, almost like a sugar. Can you tolerate just good eating kale in a salad or mixed into soup or sauce or something like that? I like to add some kale to salads and soups. I don’t like to eat a salad of just kale as it is a little rough chewing. There is nothing magic about smoothies or pureed food. You can just as easily eat your greens.


  68. Hi, PlantBasedMafia! The best current evidence suggests that it is best to eat raw and cooked greens, and chew them well to reap the most benefit. Smoothies can help people consume more greens, although it may not be the ideal way to get them. The issue with juicing is that so much of the plant is removed, and many nutrients are attached to the discarded fiber. You can find everything on this site about juicing here: https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/juice/ I hope that helps!

  69. Can someone please enlighten me about FROZEN fruit? I like to eat my fruit frozen but I worry that it might not be all that good for my health and weight control. Is frozen fruit different, less beneficial, than regular, whole fruit?

  70. Dr. G has talked about this. It appears frozen fruit is fine. Also, it tends to be frozen at its peak of ripeness which may be an advantage. Personally, I see an advantage in the low temperature because not only do we eat it slower, which is good, but any starches will be more crystallized and would have a better chance to reach deeper into the gut undigested so as to act as “resistant starch” which is a good thing as well.

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