Talcum Powder & Fibroids

Talcum Powder & Fibroids
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What role does diet and baby powder play in the development of fibroids and ovarian cancer?

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If you randomly select a group of women and ultrasound their uterus, the majority of them have fibroid tumors by age 50. And by most, I mean, more than 80% of black women, and about nearly 70% of white women. Half of white women already have fibroids by their early 40s, and the same could be said for African-American women in their mid-30s.

After getting over the shock of how widespread fibroids are, the next question becomes, why the racial disparity? Is it “diet, stress,…environmental exposures”? Maybe, whatever it is could offer a clue as to what causes fibroids. For example, African-Americans tend to have a “lower intake…of fruits [and] vegetables,” and fruits and vegetables appear protective against fibroids—particularly citrus, here in the Black Women’s Health Study; though not, apparently, just citrus juice.

It’s interesting; if you measure the levels of beta-carotene in fresh surgical tissue samples of uterine fibroids, and “adjacent normal [uterus tissue] obtained” during hysterectomies, you find “significantly…lower” concentrations in the fibroids. In fact, beta-carotene was not even detectable in half the fibroid specimens. The same thing is actually found in cancer. Most cancerous tissues tested had undetectable levels of beta carotene, compared to the normal tissue right next to the tumor. So, maybe “decreased levels of [beta]-carotene” somehow play a role in causing these conditions? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, but you don’t know until you put it to the test. But, there had never been a randomized, controlled, clinical trial of fruits and vegetables for fibroids, until… never! They did do a randomized, controlled trial of kind-of-a-fruit-and-vegetable-at-the-same-time—tomatoes—but for the prevention of fibroids in Japanese quail, and most of my patients are not Japanese, nor quail.

The action of lycopene, the red pigment in tomatoes, “in an animal model may not accurately represent lycopene action in humans.” And indeed, the Harvard Nurses’ study found no apparent link between lycopene consumption and fibroids. So, yeah; fruits and at least green vegetables may have a “protective effect.” But we won’t know for sure, until they’re properly put to the test.

Vitamin D is another possibility as to why African-Americans disproportionately suffer from fibroids. “Women with darker skin are…more likely to be Vitamin D-deficient;” as many as 80% of black women may have “inadequate levels of Vitamin D,” compared to only one in five white women.

Vitamin D does inhibit fibroid cell proliferation—in a petri dish. It may be able to shrink tumors in your pet rat; but what about people? A population study did find that “[w]omen with sufficient vitamin D” levels in their blood had about a third “lower odds of fibroids”—consistent with the finding that women who report lots of sun exposure also appear to be protected. But, until there’s an interventional trial where women are randomized to vitamin D or placebo, we won’t know for sure if vitamin D plays a role in fibroid prevention or treatment, or not.

African-American women are also more likely to sprinkle baby powder on their genitals, which may not only double the odds of fibroids, but may increase the risk of ovarian cancer—the deadliest gynecological cancer. Internal memos show Johnson & Johnson knew about the cancer risk, but still decided to target African-Americans. “Think of us”, Johnson & Johnson said, “as a lifetime friend of the family”—a lifetime cut short, perhaps, by its baby powder, or at least so said a jury, which recently awarded a family $110 million in damages—on top of the $200 million in verdicts from last year, with thousands of lawsuits pending after internal memos revealed that decades ago, their own contracted toxicologists were warning the company that there are multiple studies showing a cancer link, and anyone who denies this risk “will be perceived by the public” in the same light as those who denied a link between smoking cigarettes and cancer: “denying the obvious in the face of all evidence to the contrary.”

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If you randomly select a group of women and ultrasound their uterus, the majority of them have fibroid tumors by age 50. And by most, I mean, more than 80% of black women, and about nearly 70% of white women. Half of white women already have fibroids by their early 40s, and the same could be said for African-American women in their mid-30s.

After getting over the shock of how widespread fibroids are, the next question becomes, why the racial disparity? Is it “diet, stress,…environmental exposures”? Maybe, whatever it is could offer a clue as to what causes fibroids. For example, African-Americans tend to have a “lower intake…of fruits [and] vegetables,” and fruits and vegetables appear protective against fibroids—particularly citrus, here in the Black Women’s Health Study; though not, apparently, just citrus juice.

It’s interesting; if you measure the levels of beta-carotene in fresh surgical tissue samples of uterine fibroids, and “adjacent normal [uterus tissue] obtained” during hysterectomies, you find “significantly…lower” concentrations in the fibroids. In fact, beta-carotene was not even detectable in half the fibroid specimens. The same thing is actually found in cancer. Most cancerous tissues tested had undetectable levels of beta carotene, compared to the normal tissue right next to the tumor. So, maybe “decreased levels of [beta]-carotene” somehow play a role in causing these conditions? Sounds like a bit of a stretch, but you don’t know until you put it to the test. But, there had never been a randomized, controlled, clinical trial of fruits and vegetables for fibroids, until… never! They did do a randomized, controlled trial of kind-of-a-fruit-and-vegetable-at-the-same-time—tomatoes—but for the prevention of fibroids in Japanese quail, and most of my patients are not Japanese, nor quail.

The action of lycopene, the red pigment in tomatoes, “in an animal model may not accurately represent lycopene action in humans.” And indeed, the Harvard Nurses’ study found no apparent link between lycopene consumption and fibroids. So, yeah; fruits and at least green vegetables may have a “protective effect.” But we won’t know for sure, until they’re properly put to the test.

Vitamin D is another possibility as to why African-Americans disproportionately suffer from fibroids. “Women with darker skin are…more likely to be Vitamin D-deficient;” as many as 80% of black women may have “inadequate levels of Vitamin D,” compared to only one in five white women.

Vitamin D does inhibit fibroid cell proliferation—in a petri dish. It may be able to shrink tumors in your pet rat; but what about people? A population study did find that “[w]omen with sufficient vitamin D” levels in their blood had about a third “lower odds of fibroids”—consistent with the finding that women who report lots of sun exposure also appear to be protected. But, until there’s an interventional trial where women are randomized to vitamin D or placebo, we won’t know for sure if vitamin D plays a role in fibroid prevention or treatment, or not.

African-American women are also more likely to sprinkle baby powder on their genitals, which may not only double the odds of fibroids, but may increase the risk of ovarian cancer—the deadliest gynecological cancer. Internal memos show Johnson & Johnson knew about the cancer risk, but still decided to target African-Americans. “Think of us”, Johnson & Johnson said, “as a lifetime friend of the family”—a lifetime cut short, perhaps, by its baby powder, or at least so said a jury, which recently awarded a family $110 million in damages—on top of the $200 million in verdicts from last year, with thousands of lawsuits pending after internal memos revealed that decades ago, their own contracted toxicologists were warning the company that there are multiple studies showing a cancer link, and anyone who denies this risk “will be perceived by the public” in the same light as those who denied a link between smoking cigarettes and cancer: “denying the obvious in the face of all evidence to the contrary.”

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Doctor's Note

You can see how I started this video—profiling the effects of diet and supplements on fibroid tumors, but then got dragged off on that horrifying ovarian cancer tangent. I’m so glad I did. What a story! No wonder corporations are working hard to pass tort reform to limit the amount of damages they have to pay for their negligence or malfeasance. If you remember, it was a series of landmark court cases that also dragged damning internal tobacco industry communications into the light. For a bit on that story, see:

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  1. Sorry for posting this in this video but couldnt find one related to my question. My son is being monitored for his growth and may have growth hormones if he doesnt grow enough. Is there any foods that can assist with helping him grow or any foods he should avoid?




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    1. CrazyRunner, don’t know how old your son is, but before you do growth hormones which increase cancer risk, have him tested to see what age he is biologically.
      Docs wanted to do that to my son at age 17. (5’4″) I had him tested at St. Louis Children’s hospital. Tests showed he was equivalent to age 13 and his bone showed he had lots of growth left. (They xrayed his wrists and did some blood tests.) By 22 he was 5’10” using no hormones.
      Unfortunately the foods related to growth are not vegan. Dairy and whey protein are most associated with population height.
      You probably already know he needs healthy fat and protein.




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      1. CrazyRunner, btw, have they checked his thyroid? You might want to avoid foods which can adversely affect thyroid function. Soy and crucifers for instance. While these are great foods in general, they may be a problem for him at this point.




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        1. Great comment Marilyn, I had no idea they could test for that! Great info to know.

          I disagree about avoiding cruciforous veggies if thyroid is low though. Innately they do not effect thyroid function, they can just interfere with iodine absorption if one does not get enough iodine. But they can actually protect the thyroid from cancer (according to the things I’ve read).
          I took the natural approach for dealing with my hypothyroidism as the meds can be harmful and they actually make your body dependent on them by stopppng your body from producing thyroid horomones on its own.
          I eat lots of cruciforous and consume soy here and there. I supplement with Maine Coast kelp granules in small amounts for iodine daily and make sure I eat healthy and get enough selenium (I keep Brazil nuts around) and I decided to use the adaptogen herb ashwaghanda (I use Organic India, both them and Gaia do tests for metals) which helps assist the thyroid.
          For me it was about getting my body healthy and balanced again through nutrition, getting off medication, and dealing with my chronic stress.
          I actually think my past anti anxiety meds were part to blame as I learned most anti depressant/anxiety meds contain lithium which slows down thyroid function and has even been used to treat hyperthyroidism due to this.
          I also avoid chlorine (I have a good filter and use a shower filter) which I learned can affect thyroid (I’ve read bromelain can interfere with iodine as well and it’s added to commercial breads according to what I’ve read).

          Anyways I seem to have corrected my thyroid naturally and I never skimp on the crucifers. But I would absolutely love for Dr. G to come out with a series on natural thyroid treatment.




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      2. I don’t think that you need dairy and whey protein although they will be high in bovine growth hormones. And protein of course.

        According to Men’s Health UK, melatonin-rich foods like raspberries and pineapple boost human growth hormone.
        http://www.menshealth.co.uk/food-nutrition/muscle-foods/foods-boost-HGH

        Goji berries are probably the best source though
        https://nutritionfacts.org/2014/04/03/foods-with-natural-melatonin/

        And nuts and beans are probably the healthiest source of fats and protein. If your son is eating a completely vegetarian diet though you need to ensure that he gets adequate amounts of B12 and iodine. This can perhaps be best achieved by eg fortified tempeh/tofu etc foods.or soymilk.
        http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/teens




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        1. One thing is certain you do not want to experiment with your son , you would want to get the most knowledgeable Dr you could find . My wife and I have raised foster kids for almost 20 years now , we have had 9 kids come and go almost all had at least their share of problems . I don’t think we really had a case of malnourished child but certainly failure to thrive seems common . We have had 100 per cent success with vegetarian diet which would include a modest amount of milk . For legal reasons we are obligated to supply milk as we need to supply proper protein and macro nutrients as well as micro nutrients to growing children . According to Dr. Catherine Pound of the Canadian Paediatric Society there is no known substitute for milk for growing children .




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    2. Insulin llike growth factor one IGF-1 seems, as the name suggests to be associated. Normally as mentioned one thinks of this as being present in dairy. And as a negative as it does assist in cancer growths in adults. Adults do not need excessive amounts circulating around. It may assist cancer if present to grow.
      But in children…..

      In any case soy does in this regard represents in similar fashion in larger amounts to animal protein. Soy to my knowledge is the only one that replicates dairy in this fashion.

      I would of course run this all by your doc. And I have no special qualification to comment upon this so it is certainly best to research IGF-1 yourself.
      Dr Greger has commented on IFG-1 levels in soy in several of his videos but not in the context of a assist to childhood growth..

      Certainly a more educated person to this issue may care to chime in. But at least this may be a start if animal products are wanted to be avoided..




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      1. AS Marilyn suggests above soy can negatively affect thyroid function in some select contexts. So that indeed needs to be ruled out as a causative factor.
        to my opinion. In any event your doc needs to be in on all of this and your concerns. If she/he has not a clue I would consult a specialist.




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    3. Fluorides! This highly electronegative chemical is a prevalent ingredient in sooo very much of that which we eat, breathe and absorb. It literally is everywhere and in near everything. It’s bioaccumlative effect make it a culprit in much endocrine disruption. Learning as much as you can about the multitude of fluoride exposure sources will better equip you to prevent accumulations and therefore avoid it’s negative effects.

      FAN–Fluoride Action Network, and Fluoride Alert are excellent places to start your education about fluorides. Second Look Tides or SLWeb.org is available to help people learn and detox from fluoride, and there are several helpful fluoride support groups, found under Fluoride Poisioning.




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    1. Cornstarch exposure does not seem to be a risk factor for ovarian cancer. Here’s the summary of an article reviewing this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10739536

      (I couldn’t find published data showing that cornstarch based powders are harmful. But I should point out that that’s not exactly the same as proving they’re totally safe, either.)

      Best, Dr Anderson, volunteer




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    2. Women have had fibroids before talc was being used or invented. Lawsuits may have had something to do with popularizing
      this possible myth. Still, it might be wise to avoid talc.




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  2. This corporation actively marketed a product they absolutely knew caused cancer. And this from a company known for selling baby products and the like. A trusted company. Guess they liked big tobacco’s play book..

    I am wondering what exactly it will take
    what heinous action they could possibly erect or construct
    …before we stop giving them all this sort
    tax brakes ;(




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    1. ron in New Mexico: isn’t the phrase “a trusted company” an oxymoron? Think of the opioid epidemic. Another example: a friend just told me that her cousin, a PhD biologist, is doing brain research for Nestle in an effort to make chocolate more addictive. You mean it isn’t addictive enough? And that’s just one example of many, many in the “food industry,” which makes industrially manufactured edible products — not food.




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      1. Yes indeed and if it was only the food industry. Me being a health and fitness buff used to follow one site that was the purview of cancer survivors, not that I am one but it had some good advice on work outs and such.

        To my chagrin I found the site advocating as dietary choice lunch meats and such as proper dietary sources of food in one of their published articles. A cancer survivors site.

        I can’t hate peoples nor hold them absolutely responsible for most anything but..the word evil resounds in my head when I find evidence pointing in that direction.. In Charles Dickens time there was a occasional evil person doing evil things. Now it seems we have a system of evil producing evil people who do things of evil and are soundly supported for their efforts..
        So sad.




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    1. Thanks. Is the American cancer society trustworthy? (A genuine question as I don’t know. Example are they society that promotes meat eating?). Their warning is more like no clear risk. Have they considered this latest study?

      You often see cosmetic products stating they use talc from a certified non asbestos source. Hard to know if it or substitutes are unsafe! Facepowder helps remove the plastic face shine from mineral sun cream

      Weird that talc can cause uterine & ovary cancer but apparently not lung cancer




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      1. From my recent learning about talc and asbestos, it’s my understanding that there is no sure way to know if talc is completely free of asbestos due to the fact that the cross contamination occurs within the earth. I wish I had a link to the papers I read, I may have actually saved them but I’m so unorganized right now I couldn’t find them if I looked.
        Personally, I would not risk it, especially since you’d have to take a company’s word for it. Plus I don’t like the idea of supporting talc mining since it does bring up asbestos and puts the miners at risk :(
        IMO I believe this would be outlawed as an ingredient due to risk factors if it weren’t for it being a cheap and popular product.




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      2. Check out the movie/documentary “What the Health” to see about ACS, ADA, and other associations and societies with regard
        to their loyalties.




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  3. Gee hard to believe a comapany that lives off of the demonic c torture of animals through vivisection would have such little concern for their customers.
    These companies are disgusting, I can’t understand how people can even stomach supporting them through buying any of their products. I won’t even buy their qtips.
    Yet these skeezy industries reign because people are so complacent and prefer the convenience of not having to think, even over being the financial supporter of someone who gleefully harms them and their loved ones.
    These types of people/companies/industries aren’t the biggest problem, the complacent public is.




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    1. I don’t know. The local city near where I live has a large Johnson and Johnson facility that employs many people.

      Is any of this mentioned the lawsuits and all the rest in any manner in local visual media which is all quite a few workaday peoples know of……I have not heard a peep of it.Perhaps I missed it but I suspect not.
      Seems it should be as it is a city concern, employees and all it may have a impact…who knows.

      But it is not. I can afford to check this and that. Two jobs perhaps kids they do just want to get home and sit down and really eat and be unconscious.
      What could awaken them is perhaps the reality of things. But never are they presented the reality of things.
      Point being..it is the problem but is it the cause?

      One main story they always have as a fun piece on the weekends usually…what new innovative junk food the anchors eat or have found.Which by my guess serves as a debasment of sorts. Eat this even though we know it is bad, while laughing about it type of thing. What are the implications of that heard daily by a authority figure…the news. That and various nonsense pieces of how helping this or that group is what a hero cop or young boy or girl did fills about half of it. Which is nice but is it news….no it is to put them to sleep obviously.
      So it is the problem but the cause to my opinion is what they are shown of things by their media. Which is why by all means they must now control more fully internet. .. Yes they are asleep to things but put to sleep it seems they are not of their own volition sleeping.

      It seems to me it is a package the whole news program locally and probably nationally. It is not to inform but to produce a result contrary to informing peoples on things. The inverse actually, to my personal opinion..It is to put them to sleep. And see they remain that way.




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      1. I agree the industries work hard at keeping people asleep and distracted.. getting them addicted to everything from foods to drugs to constant entertainment, but I notice that it works all too well. People are so accustomed to this lifestyle that anything else is disruptive and an inconvenience. I’ve witnessed and experienced so many people who learn the truth about something, act appalled, but continue to partake in it and literally shut it out of their minds. It’s willful ignorance for the sake of the lifestyle they’re accustom to which government and big industry made and continues to make sure of. The people make it far too easy to be controlled.




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        1. Valid points all and I would not argue them. Keep in mind however the pattern of control begins with the introduction of the learning of words to my opinion. Why do we raise kids in this manner as opposed to that type of thing. I see it as a vast thing in place virtually forever in European and hence US history. So I am odd in that.
          .How can they think or we think if it is not taught? Not the teachers the parents or this or that but how to think it has been forgotten. So how could they do otherwise then perpetuate this thing of ignorance? Some arise some always do in each generation as by genes in this fashion a percent randomly mutate. So we have you and Dr Greger and this person and that. But overall most do not.

          The first mass murder of those who were in the main vegan with the exception of fish eating…1100’s France the cathers by the first papal inquisition. And the leader of that inquisition, killed by a peasant womans rock thrown. His son going on to be a English lord and a chief participant in the signing of the Magna Carta looked upon as the first act to reign in the power of kings and set us on the road of democracy. But considering his history(a portrait of him hangs in our US house of representatives hallway) was peoples rule ever the intention?.

          I say firmly not. The cathers were common folk seamstresses often by trade with women a bit equal most equal in those times. Peoples liked them so when the monks who led the inquisition on them died for this reason or that it was noticed that the common folk started to ring the church bell with joy, and did not buy what they were sold….so hence the miraculous invention of participatory democracy, giving people the perception of ownership but never real ownership so they would not revolt in a us against them scenario….such to my opinion is our history and how clever are those who rule. Those things we are told were revolutions, they were not, a changing of the guard is what they were, Who could vote in America back in that day, our words in our constitution were taken almost word for word from the English governors edict in Mass Bay colony in response to the evil that was puritanism. Did you know a catholic could not vote in New York state until 1823 as they could not by law be considered a citizen as they were catholic…That is not taught for reason.

          He, his family male leader of that clan is still a lord in the UK. And curiously he down on funds a bit, made his funds rejuvenate with marriage to who….a seamstress really, a woman clothier who supplied dresses and such to the queen and moved on to become one of the premier fashion houses.Such is life so strange seeped in irony it seems.The cathers were clothiers in the main they were known..

          But in any event please excuse my liberty in taking this so far off point…how can we blame them. They have by my take been covertly abused since the 1100’s and overtly abused a thousand years before that. All those that would see clearly have been carefully weeded out and crushed.
          Cathers descendents claim a million killed back then. The church claimed 20 thousand or so. Hitlers star worn by jews, it originated with the church the cathers were forced to wear a star….They were all murdered. Our torture techniques mostly derived from their experience, the friars back in that black day.. .

          So maybe you are right the people make it to easy to be controlled. You plainly can think as I read it they cannot. So I don’t blame them but I see your point with a flip of the coin I could and often do..
          Please excuse my indulgence here ;(.My intention is not to hijack this thread but this question of responsibility interests me




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          1. The topic itself bears elaboration……this company was murdering people for money profit. They knew they would get cancer…it is a known death sentence for some.This is not a tobacco company but a company who makes things that are supposed to help us. 120 years of caring I think is their motto.

            In a sane rational thinking group of peoples I think the pitchforks would be coming out.
            Here it is not even mentioned in the press. Nor seem to arise even a bit of real interest. At the very least this, though I no legal expert, sounds like manslaughter to me. Not even the most outrageous of us are calling for their criminal charge.
            Do we let them then kill us…. Just those of color just the young just the old just females just males then this or that…where do we draw the line, or is it all of us. For money they do this to us, we innocents who simply wanted to smell good or get dry….and they knew.It is proven they knew.

            Makes me want to puke it does.




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          2. No need to apologize, u. I find your comments very interesting. These are things I’ve never heard of and I appreciate the insight. I have, naturally, noticed how much is left untaught for obvious (to some) purposes. You make some great points and I’ll leep what you’re saying in mind.
            To your point of how some see outside of indoctrination, I guess then it’s the responsibility of these types to help the others do the same. In fact I’ve always felt that way. But I do tend to get annoyed when people choose “ignorance” over inconvenient truths. But again, I’ll have to consider your take on that.




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  4. I will hypothesize that the defining difference between black and white rates of fibroids is stress related. Black women, generally, in the U.S., are undoubtedly under more stress than white women due to racism’s historical and current day effects. And for a personal case story, I take myself. In 2013, I had “brutus” removed from my body, 7″ long, 5 pounds benign fibroid tumors. For me, a white woman, I believe the cause was stress. While my life has generally been stress free, I had some life challenges that were extremely stressful in the few years just prior to the growth of those tumors. I had been a vegetarian for almost 4 decades, not a junk food eater, and a vegan since 2012. I hope my plant-based lifestyle was one of the reasons my big tumors didn’t go cancerous. Will never know for sure. Just a thought. I also believe the toxic animal-based diet is complicit in the high rates of fibroids for all women in addition to stress.




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    1. Way too overgeneralized. Just because one woman is one race and another is of a different race does not mean one is automatically under more or less stress. You have no idea the different stresses people deal with to the point that I find that broad statement very offensive but understand that isn’t your intention.
      You have to take into account so much more than just race, but personal experiences, personal relationships, income, overall health, mental health, childhood, etc.
      Certainly there are many hardships black people have had and have to deal with due to past and present racism, but that does not equal “oh, that woman is ‘white’ so she has it better or easier in life.”




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  5. I also wonder about cornstarch & other talc substitues (useful as dry shampoo) and various finishing face powders & blush powders & even eyeshadow powders? (incl. eco substitutes as all powders could be harmful if breathed in)…

    No wonder fibroids r common as talc is in many of those products.

    Also curious if the pathway is known as would expect it causes lung cancer

    PS there are unscientific replies above already :/ Let’s stick to science facts




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    1. Paula, first I wanted to say that my response was unscientific but rather about how deplorable these companies are. I consider that right on subject along with the science considering Dr Greger putting this info out there also exposes companies like this poisoning the public and that is a very important issue which needs immediate attention. As always, I’m so grateful to Dr. Greger for making the truth available to the public.

      I also wanted to mention (not sure if anyone has yet and you likely already know) how talc powder is most always intertwined with asbestos which is inevitable as it begins in the mining process.




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  6. Will this talc powder would affect men as well? I have cousins that use body talc powder to avoid sweating… also what about anti perspirant deodorant? Thank you




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    1. Fabiola, I would urge them to stop. Talc is intertwined with asbestos via the mining process.
      There are more natural alternatives out there. I believe bentonite clay or maybe even clay in general would work.

      I believe any antiperspirant deodorants that interrupt the natural sweating process aren’t good, but not all deodorants are antiperspirant. There’s a lot of natural ones out there and there’s even the Himalayan salt egg which is just a smooth rock of Himalayan salt and the way it works is that (after dampening and rubbing onto clean skin) the salt naturally inhibits the growth of bacteria so it keeps you fresh.




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    2. There are other cancers associated with talc exposure. Those who mine the mineral talc have higher rates of lung cancer. Talc naturally contains asbestos, and this may be one of the ways inhaling talc leads to lung cancer. Talc without asbestos removed still seems associated with increased lung cancer, though, so it may not only be the asbestos.

      Here is an article on this by the American Cancer Society: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html

      Antiperspirants contain aluminum, which can be toxic if absorbed (such as via nicked skin of the underarms after shaving). Here’s a video on this: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/antiperspirants-and-breast-cancer/

      Search for “aluminum free” deodorants for an alternative to antiperspirants.

      Best of luck to you! Dr Anderson, volunteer




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    1. My feeling has been that it is the talc itself.However breathing in the dust of corn starch especially since it usually contains perfumes dyes and who knows what else could not be a good thing. Nor could it be good to have that stuff enter any orifice for that matter.

      So I do hold my breath when or if I use such stuff and also when I spray deodorants and such. Seems silly I know but I do this for any powdered thing that may go into the atmosphere and be breathed in. Once a shirt or pants is on the dust problem stops.
      On a baby, it is a difficult choice as you want them dry but they cannot stop breathing in at least some of the dust. If I cared for a baby now I would have to think of something else probably. Dust is just not a good thing to have in lungs even a inert substance I would probably just put a particulate mask on a baby till the dust settles. ..




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      1. Stacy…. Johnson and Johnson by my read of this story made a substance that they knew would kill people by causing cancer. They knew yet still continued to make and promote it.

        So just me but I will no longer buy their products even if they do sell other safe ones which they do.
        They plainly suck. Really really really suck.
        I will go to a other manufactuirer who did not do this heinous thing.
        I try to avoid toilet paper from the Koch brothers as well so I may be singular in things like that Most I’d say do not put things like this into actins of personal preference.. Koch sucks a little less but not much..




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      2. My mom never used baby powder or any powder on us and I’m glad for it. We never had rashes, she says she just kept us clean and changed us right away if there was dampness. She didn’t have a good feeling about using it and found it unnecessary.

        Haha, never thought I’d be talking about my diaper days on a public forum… gotta love this site!




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    2. I’ve recently learned that talc contains asbestos due to the mining process so I would imagine overall, talc is not a good ingredient.
      Corn starch is probably ok, not sure about inhalation, but I wouldn’t trust anything from a company like this.
      They had issues with so many products including their baby washes. And they test on animals to boot.




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  7. 100% of the proceeds Dr. Greger receives from all his books is donated to charity.What about the co-authors ???? Dr. Greger is the only source of free non bias health news-
    My concern is this maybe changing -the new book recommendations you buy food from Whole Foods and the book seems reflective the co-authors views-one co-authors books recommends Salt Fat Sugar & Oil ????? – the new book also includes a link to the co-authors and the books the co-author sells-What is next a link to buy tickets to go on a boat cruise??
    I’m 76 years old, the only doctor I have total confidence in is Doctor Gregor ,I have put my life in his hands,NOT MY LOCAL DOCTORS-That recommended eggs and bacon in the morning and steak and potatoes for dinner-his co-authors seems to be professional writers that are using his good reputation to promote them self and their views, while making money off his good reputation -this concerns me– can they destroy Doc Gregers reputation???




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  8. I think Dr Greger has been in the crosshairs of the meat and dairy industry for a while now and he keeps on chugging away.

    Hard to believe I know but a while back some right wing site did actually put him on a list of Russian operatives, people who are sponsored by Russia for nefarious purposes. A video about this by happy healthy vegan is available on their site on youtube. He has since been removed from it I am guessing as it damaged their credibility.

    So by my read it is not for lack of trying. Really it is not him though…he only represents the science. The valid science not the industry science.. .




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  9. Before throwing the towel at talc, we need to look at the contents of talc and it does not seem to contain anything harmful. But talc in its natural form, may contain asbestos and we know that asbestos causes cancer. But there is asbestos free talc powder that you can buy.

    https://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancer-causes/talcum-powder-and-cancer.html

    To be safe, use a dry towel to dry your baby. And don’t put on your genital for no apparent reason unless one does not shower.




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