Doctor's Note

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  • HaltheVegan

    Thanks to Dr. Greger for another useful video. I like these kinds of videos, too, for the reasons Dr. Greger mentions. One question: does anyone know how the potency compares between powdered ginger and candied ginger, which is readily available in many grocery stores? Thanks.

    • george

      Candied ginger is loaded with sugar.

      • SeedyCharacter

        Yes, candied ginger has a fair amount of sugar http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/crystallized-ginger-6822.html but it is easy to carry ginger around in its sugared form and for folks suffering from migraines or travel sickness or morning sickness or chemo nausea, it allows for instant consumption in a highly palatable form. One does not need to eat much to benefit. I believe I read that sugar itself can help with nausea. I carry candied ginger in my car for any car-sick passengers. A lot of people swear by Trader Joe’s Ginger Chews . . .

        • HaltheVegan

          I usually eat a few pieces of Trader Joe’s candied ginger daily just for the health benefits of ginger. I’ve heard it helps with sea-sickness but can’t personally attest to that since I’ve never been sea-sick, even before I started eating it.

          • SeedyCharacter

            One way to look at candied ginger is that it’s a somewhat healthier and vegan way to satisfy a sweet tooth . . . better than consuming the many additives in a typical candy bar.

          • John

            Why wouldn’t you just use dried ground ginger or ginger powder? Sugar causes cancer, diabetes, heart problems. Eat fruit if you want something sweet.
            John S
            PDX OR

          • SeedyCharacter

            John, I avoid sugar as much as possible but I know, having worked with many women with chemo sickness and having personally experienced morning sickness, that swallowing capsules of dried ginger powder when nauseated is not always possible but sucking/chewing on a sweet clump of root is. One can always carry a couple of bags of ginger tea around, too, though the tea does not seem as effective. A good brand of ginger ale (with lots of actual ginger in it) works very well for some folks, is soothing, and keeps them hydrated, too. When one has extreme nausea and is losing fluids and nutrients, a bit of sugar is not the biggest concern.

        • Rebecca Syma

          I love ginger chews… you can even make them at home if you want to try… lots of recipes all similar in content and method on search engines/recipes etc. awesome snacks… but I am trying to quit sugar completely since it keeps people in positions of slavery throughout the world, same as eating shrimp is doing now. I hate slavery and the whole concept of owning other humans to enrich one’s self for power to rule over others…!

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Good question. Not sure about the potency of candied ginger I guess it depends on how much ginger is used. I suggest sticking to the powder, as ginger root and ginger powder is available at most grocery stores.

      • HaltheVegan

        Thank you, Dr Gonzales … will do.

      • sone

        This looks like one of those cases where it might be useful for the individual to find out through personal experimentation. Migraines are quite easy to notice for the person having it and if understand the video correctly the ginger, like sumatriptan, is meant to be taken reactively once the first signs of migraine appears. Then it is simply a matter of over time trying out various doses of candied ginger vs powdered ginger and look to the effects on the migraine.

        • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

          Great advice! Ginger is so harmless that experimenting with different forms and dosages is perhaps best. I would suggest starting with 1/8 tsp of powdered though since that is what the folks in the study used.

    • Colleen

      How fresh does powdered ginger need to be? Or does that matter?

      • jazzfeed

        It’s either powdered or it’s fresh. “Fresh powdered ginger” seems oxymoronic. For the highest, most concentrated potency juice the root and add it to a liquid. 1 teaspoon to a 8oz of medium is a moderate dose. I put it in my tea every day. If I had migraines ginger juice would always be in the refrigerator.

        • Saved1973

          How do you juice the root? Thanks.

          • jazzfeed

            With a juicer! A pound of ginger root nets about a cup of juice. Depending on your juicer you may have to clean it twice, halfway throught the job, as the ginger peel is gnarly. Chop up the root before juicing to shorten the fibers caught in the juicer.

  • SeedyCharacter

    Dr. G: You may want to reword this sentence:

    “Avoiding aspartame (Aspartame and the Brain) and lavender may also help (Lavender for Migraine Headaches).”

    It conveys that one might be helped by avoiding lavender when you mean to say that one could be helped with lavender.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      YES! Thanks for reading the Doctor’s Note that is often skipped by our viewers. So much good information there. Now, if we could only publish it correctly…. ;-) I am fixing now thanks so much for the heads up! Please point out mistakes as necessary. Thanks Seedy

      • SeedyCharacter

        Joseph, Any way I can let you know about spelling/grammar boo-boos without having to post to the Comments section? I’m guessing 99.5% of readers find these editing conversations a bit distracting.

    • http://www.bestantioxidantwater.info Mike Flavell

      “Your not sick your Thirsty” Google Hydration and Headache. Drink Ionised Water with Free Hydrogen, ask me about the only devise that produces at the right quantity. Dont believe me try it

      • Dylan

        How about some solid research to back up your product? We like evidence around here :)

        • http://www.bestantioxidantwater.info Mike Flavell

          All I do is put any one with Migraine on a free 21 day trial of the water and see what happens for them, most get a great result

          • Iris

            water doesnt touch the migraines I get…

          • Iris

            water doesnt touch the migraines I get…

          • jm

            Wow, wouldn’t that be nice if simple remedies like special water really worked for all.

      • jazzfeed

        Could you describe in more detail what “ionised water” is and how to infuse it with “free hydrogen”?
        I’m guessing that the equipment necessary to do this at home is cost prohibitive. Therefore, this is a promotional, therefore some corroboration for your claim is necessary.

  • Plantstrongdoc M.D.

    Dr Greger,
    What are you trying to do – ruin business!?
    PSdoc (neurologist)

    :-) :-)

  • guest

    And ginger has a lot of other benefits; migraine drugs have none.

  • Wetcoast Joan

    Must it be powdered ginger? Would whole, sliced ginger work as well?

    • http://twitter.com/MacSmiley MacSmiley

      Good question, especially considering the recent publicity about supplements not containing the active ingredients claimed or contaminated with heavy metals.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      I am not sure looks like they used the powder in the studies. I would imagine fresh would offer similar benefits.

      • Zee

        I use fresh for my migraines all the time and it works extremely well. I have not tried powdered ginger, on the other hand.

  • Alicia Townsend

    I would love to recommend this to my patients with migraines, especially those who have problems with the medications. Would this be the ground ginger sold as a spice, or is it something sold as a supplement? I’m also curious if fresh ginger or even fresh pressed ginger juice or ginger tea would work.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Hi Alicia, Looks like it’s the ginger powder that is sold as a spice.

      • Alicia Townsend

        Thank you, Dr. Gonzales!

    • HaltheVegan

      Your question is very similar to mine posted above. There are many forms of ginger available. How do the different forms compare regarding potency? An eight teaspoon sounds like a very small amount.

  • Seeking TruthandPeace

    Thank-you so much for this information!!! I only wish it had come out one day earlier…I had a terrible migraine yesterday, if I had known this I would have much preferred ginger to medication.

  • Colleen Kelly

    Is there anything wrong with taking 1/4 tsp powdered ginger daily?? I suffer from migraines (two/week) : (( and consequently am on sumatriptan which I don’t trust at all, but it does the job.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Hi Colleen. That is a pretty low dose. For all of the wonderful benefits ginger can provide I think that’s just fine.

  • BarbaraJ16

    What about pure YL ginger oil?

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Hi, Barbara. Good question! Not sure about the oils since they tested powdered ginger, but I am sure you could try it.

  • Lindi Allen

    I will try this esp if I can’t just go back to bed, the meds make me sleepy. I hope it works well.

  • Psych MD

    Swanson sells 100 powdered ginger capsules, similar to what was used in the study albeit in a more generous dosage (540 mg), for $2.49. Why not use what has already been shown to work rather than play a guessing game.

    • Manezi S.

      Or for others who can’t get Swanson brand, 1/8th of a teaspoon powdered ginger from the supermarket is all that’s really needed :)

    • jazzfeed

      Because it’s another guessing game what’s actually contained in “Swanson’s powdered ginger capsules”. Is it 100% organic ginger or X % non-organic ginger + fillers? Who knows? Does Swanson offer a laboratory analysis?

  • Wade Patton

    Haven’t had a migraine since going WFPB, but used to have one or two every month. I’ve had to pull off the road because of pre-migraine aura, just a few months ago.

    But the most AMAZING migraine remedy I ever experienced was way back when I had decided to go caffeine free. I was driving and one started coming on, no good place to stop, kept driving. It intensified and had become a major distraction when I found a store as I neared my destination. I went in for ibuprofen and something to wash it down. THEN I realized I’d been 100% caffeine-free for two weeks (migraine help was the point of going caffeine free). So I got a caffeinated soda and a bar of candy and the ibuprofen. Took the ibuprofen and a a few gulps of the soda, resumed travel and BAMMO it was G-O-N-E! . I couldn’t have gone a mile from the store and my head was absolutely cleared up. I barely believed it, and don’t expect many of you to either. But that’s the fact Jack.

    But you cannot have a daily intake of caffeine for this to work. Of course now, if I ever get another (maybe WFPB fixed that) I’ll go for Ginger, she’s a great gal! (and much better than silly sugar drinks).

    • jm

      I have had two miraculous incidents but have not been able to replicate back when my attacks were very episodic. Both on a birthday. The first time was overloading on chocolate chocolate cake with death by chocolate ice cream. The second was greasy chips and salsa at a mexican restaurant. Unfortunately the WFPB lifestyle has not make a difference yet. But I am healthy enough to deal with it.

      • El Jefe

        If I read your comment correctly your migraine/headaches was triggered when you did not follow WFPB lifestyle.

        • jm

          No I have had migraines all my life. And I’ve only been on a WFPB diet for 5 years.

  • Manezi S.

    I wonder if there is anything similar that works for regular headaches? Anecdotally, I can say that choline has worked for me before.

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Since migraines are more severe perhaps one could try ginger on headaches?

      • Manezi S.

        I’ll be sure to try next time.

  • Youcef

    Thanks Doc!
    Here’s a rather scientifically rigorous resource I like to use which corroborates that ginger may help for migraines :
    http://therapy.epnet.com/nat/GetContent.asp?siteid=EBSCO&chunkiid=21738
    All the info there relies primarily on double-blind placebo-controlled studies, a bit old (published in 2006~07 I think) and not perfect for everything (i.e. no indication that it checks for conflicts of interests and track funding sources…) but a good tool as part of a toolkit to do research.

  • Pat

    My daughter suffers terribly with migraines. She is on a lot of preventative medicine as well as imetrex. I would love to have her try the ginger but am a bit confused on exactly what to do.
    Is it powder or pill form? Do you dilute it with water if in a powder? how often can you take it if the migraine doesn’t go away? Can you then use the imetrex if you need too? I would love this for her if it works. Thank you.

    • jessant

      Just get the spice and use 1/8 TSP in hot water. You can strain it if you want or just let it settle to the bottom and then drink it. I imagine you should let it steep for a while as well. You can find the spice at any grocery store in the spice section. It will be labeled ginger spice or powder. I doubt it has to be fresh but you should definitely check to make sure it’s not expired. I doubt there would be any interaction with the imetrex so experiment away.

    • Justin Miramontes

      Hi Pat, in the study that’s referenced they just had 250mg capsules of ginger powder, but a 1/8th to 1/4th teaspoon with a little bit of water just to make it easier to swallow will get you the same result.

    • http://www.DonForresterMD.com/ Don Forrester MD -NF Volunteer

      Migraines can be a challenging problem and there have been newer medications which can help prevent and treat them. This is a terrific video to give migraine sufferers a good option to try. I wouldn’t worry about the sugar in candied ginger as small amounts of sugar have never been shown to be harmful… although it is calorie dense at 1800 cal/#. Many of my patients benefited from going on a diet that reduces or eliminates tyramine from their diets. Tyramine occurs naturally in foods and is a breakdown product of tyrosine which is an amino acid. You can find examples of foods which are high in tyramine on the internet. By going plant based you eliminate alot of aged and processed foods that are high in tyramines. But there are plant foods with alot of tyramines such as pea pods, pickles and nuts. Additionally there is an increase in tyramines as foods are kept and consumed as leftovers. If you look at the foods and beverages consumed within the previous 24 hours of a migraine you can often figure out your triggers and avoid or at least be prepared as it can be a dose related issue. Good luck.

  • Rosie S.

    I saw this video on YouTube, and the next video was an Ayurvedic (traditional medicine of India) treatment of headaches, so I watched it out of curiosity. They ground up dried ginger and mixed with milk to make a paste and applied to the forehead for up to 1/2 hour. I just found that interesting, and thought I’d share it. There’s more than anecdotes going on regarding ginger and headaches!

  • AlanRoy

    You left us hanging with the big question you asked: Who’s going to pay for such a study? Who is going to do such a study when they can not expect to make millions from ginger? I can see the names of the researchers on the study, but, who are these guys? And who did they get to fund this study? What were their motivations? We’re always saying how natural substances will not be studied in rigorous scientific trials because no one can expect to make a killing off of promoting a patented drug out of it. But here is an example of some one doing just that, evidently with no profit motive. How did this happen? And how might more studies of natural remedies be undertaken?

    • Joseph Gonzales R.D.

      Are you able to find the studies in “sources cited?” You can see if there are any conflicts of interests and who funded the study. It also sounds like great questions for the researchers themselves! Want me to dig up their email? You’d be surprised how many correspond and like to hear from folks who read their work.

  • Michael McCabe

    I buy organic ginger, skin it with a peeler, slice it thin and dehydrate. Then grind to a powder. Very easy to do!

  • jm

    Ginger root to stop migraine – how does it work
    Ginger contains more than 200 substances in its oils, which is why it has so many different uses. It is believed that ginger may block prostiglandins, which stimulate some muscle contractions, control inflammation and impact some hormones. Therefore migraines may be prevented and stopped by ginger stifling the action of prostiglandins.

    One over-the-counter remedy containing ginger and feverfew is called GelStat Migraine. The product is applied and absorbed under the tongue, for faster delivery. GelStat’s makers say sublingual treatments take eight minutes to reach their peak level in the body, compared to 70 minutes for a tablet or capsule.
    http://migraine.com/migraine-treatment/natural-remedies/ginger-for-migraine-headaches/

    Ginger: Ginger, ginger tea or candied ginger is not only a headache remedy, it can also fight nausea that comes with many migraine attacks. Many headache home remedies include ginger in various forms.
    http://www.relieve-migraine-headache.com/headache-home-remedies.html

  • Tobias Brown

    Is there a reference available that lists which plants most likely have the power (like ginger) to improve human health? I’m not looking for the latest superfoods list but something that scientists are considering.

    • Rosie S.

      Just from subscribing to NutritionFacts, I am guessing that the foods, herbs, and other plant based medicines of Indian and other traditional medicines are first in line for studies. If they have been well thought of for thousands of years and aren’t Western medical plans, then they are worth studying. Google and NutritionFacts can fill in the gaps.

  • Christine

    I started taking magnesium supplements, and my migraines went from a couple a week to a couple a year. Now I’ll also add ginger for those few migraines I do have.

  • jm

    It is great that this works for some people but for the rest of us migrainers it does not. Just like peppermint oil doesn’t take away nausea. The smell just makes me feel worse. But then again Imitrex didn’t work very well for me either.

  • Kaja Knudsen

    Will ginger help with reducing pain or just reducing nausea during migraines?
    How many mg of ginger power do I need? Are dried ginger in capsules an alternative?

    • jm

      While the best-researched use of ginger is in combating nausea and vomiting, studies have shown that ginger is a multi-faceted remedy with at least six more healing effects:
      It reduces pain and inflammation, making it valuable in managing arthritis, headaches, and menstrual cramps.
      It has a warming effect and stimulates circulation.
      It inhibits rhinovirus, which can cause the common cold.
      It inhibits such bacteria as Salmonella, which cause diarrhea, and protozoa, such as Trichomonas.
      In the intestinal tract, it reduces gas and painful spasms.
      It may prevent stomach ulcers caused by nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs, such as aspirin and ibuprofen.
      http://www.everydayhealth.com/columns/white-seeber-grogan-the-remedy-chicks/health-benefits-ginger/

      • Kaja Knudsen

        Thank you very much for this info. I will give it a try.

  • Brux

    I have a question only marginally related to the subject of the video, but I hope I can float it here.

    Recently I checked with my eye doctor about something that happened to me that she

    termed a “visual migraine”.

    I had eaten a particularly bad mix of junk foods, including a lot of coffee one day and

    began to see a kind of sparkly pattern in the middle of my field of view. I described it

    as looking like the pattern you see when people would “transport” somewhere on the

    first Star Trek TV show … like TV static, black and white random sparkles. Needless to

    say this was very disconcerting.

    I think I tracked down the problem, which happened once again to a certain brand of

    coffee. There are two brands of coffee that Whole Foods sells fresh in its freezer section

    where I live. One is Blue Bottle, and the other is Stumptown. When I drink the Stumptown

    coffee I got this at least twice how. Now I am going to cut coffee out of my diet even though
    it is supposed to be vegan and full of anti-oxidants … I don’t seem to do well with coffee.

    I read the ingredients and the only thing that did not look normal though was carageenan.

    Wikipedia describes carageenan(s) as Carrageenans or carrageenins as a family of linear
    sulphated polysaccharides that are extracted from red edible seaweeds. Seem like it
    is plant-based and should not be a problem, so perhaps it is the high caffeine content
    and slightly larger container it comes in?

    Just wondering if anyone had heard about or experiences something like I am describing
    and can add or educate me on what it is or could be? What is this, what could be in coffee
    and could this cause a problem like I am describing? I don’t want to test it again because
    it is no fun to have visual incidents like this.

    • Brux

      Sorry about the double-spaced lines, that just somehow randomly happens, I did not put them in there like that.

    • jm

      It could be something that is used in processing that particular brand of coffee unless this happens with other brands.
      Check this out.
      http://migraine.com/infographic/images-invisible-illness/2/

      • Brux

        The only thing I saw was carrageenan.
        Thanks for the migraine link. That description of how this woman’s migraines start out sound like what I was experiencing, but I never got a headache or have had what I was a migraine. I pretty rarely even get headaches. But, 2 out of 2 occurrences just after drinking this Stumptown brand of coffee just seemed weird. I don’t get the problem with other brands of coffee, or canned coffee. It was a mystery, but the effect was pretty troubling. Thanks.

        • jm

          That effect would be troubling. That certainly is a reason not to buy Stumptown.
          Migraine Disorder is not just a headache. Many people get aura and nothing more. Or other weird manifestations with no headache.

          • Brux

            It was extremely weird, and I have never had anything like before or since. I have also drunk other types of coffees … so I don’t know if it was something in Stumptown or Stumptown in combination with another factor. I think I just need to stay away from caffeine. Which is weird because I should be OK with caffeine since from when I was a kid I got hooked on drinking sodas probably having at least on a day. Now those are out of my diet as well. It really sucks to have to right against all the habits I have had ingrained in me from corporations who wanted to sell me junk. It makes me very mad.

          • jm

            I hear you!

  • cyndishisara

    It seems to me that ginger works for headaches in general. I use a lot of it in my cooking as it adds so much warmth in bean soups. It is also good with white/green tea to give it extra flavor hiding lime juice with xylitol/ erythritol to sweeten. A great snack is a dried Kalamata or Calimyrna fig with some fresh ginger root.

  • LuLuLaLa

    Woohoo! I’m going to try this! I get migraines only about once a year so i’ll have to have powdered ginger in my handbag for about a year to test it… lets see. Also for my last “attack” I had a migraine aura for the first time without actually getting the migraine, i didn’t take any medication to stop the attack because I didn’t have it on hand and by the time I got home to my medication it had been well past the usual time that i get my headache part of the migraine so I didn’t bother taking the sumatriptan….(this has never happened before). Perhaps I accidentally ate/drank something to halt the migraine, but I can’t think what?

  • Jessica Madden

    This is great knowledge, I’ll never take a headache pain killer again :)

  • Kamen

    Great!

  • Markus

    Hi there. I really like this site. I’m also looking forward to the new book. But my girlfriend has migraines and has sumatriptan meds which she takes when it gets really bad. This video suggest that taking the powdered ginger produces the same relief without the effects. But she tried and the ginger does not help. So she ended up taking the meds a few hours later. This is why we have such meds, they work! Yes they have terrible side effects but they work. Every time. The ginger doesn’t work (although it may work some of the time for some people). I wish it did but it just doesn’t.

    So why spread this kind of misinformation or “potential information” that this kind of natural cure is the same (without the side effects), when it’s clearly not. A few times I even called the ambulance and they took her to the hospital, the pain was so bad. This is not just some random health problem where you can take a little bit of this and that to replace the drugs, and see what happens.

    I suggest only sharing studies where you have personally experienced that they work for your patients. Otherwise these studies are useless if there’s no personal experience to back it up. Or is this kind of anecdotal evidence completely useless when it comes to health?

    And Dr. Greger, with all due respect I would love to hear more about how you apply all these reductionist studies to the bigger picture of health and diet in general. Surely we don’t have to know how every little nutrient works or affects us. Why not make some general videos for people to get on the right track immediately. Perhaps your upcoming book does that.

    In friendship,
    Markus

    • Brux

      When I first found this site I learned so much. I was just investigating vegan/vegetarian and WFPB diets. But I have to admit that the scientific rigor is lost in about 25% of these videos to the extent that they undermine the good information in the rest of them. The ongoing unchallenged claim that even a little meat is poisonous while eating all plants in some constantly changing proportion will allow you to not die really sounds exactly like the industries we all criticize and dislike here. I see a lot of faith based behavior here and there is a mix of two kinds of thinking that are really incompatible. Those who have or had some disease and are trying to fix if the best they can by some variation of the WFPB diet, and then those who really want to know what the science is behind nutrition and how the body works and the disease process. I am in the latter group, but I do have sympathies for the former.

      • Markus

        Well, even vegans do die eventually =D I don’t know who makes the claim that even a little meat is poisonous but I think generally speaking, eating animal products is a disaster for our bodies, the planet and our fellow animals. They are not on the menu for me.

        • Brux

          There was a tendency year after year for children to outlive their parents in the United States, at least statistically. That came with the raising of more cattle, dairy, chickens, etc. There is no denying that. Children grew up bigger and more healthy. Then our food distribution and processing system changed drastically and it is all falling down, though not really ALL.

          I agree that factory farming is a disaster. I don’t think all animal products are always bad, and this looking at statistics that smear out all the possible effects from different things.

          There are parts of the WFPB argument that are more supported than others, just as there are major glaring problems with the SAD (standard American diet). I certainly agree with anyone who thinks the biggest threat to health today is the expansion and export of the SAD. There is no denying that.

          But that doesn’t mean we can just turn off our brains and run on faith that is one stays away from all animal products you will disease proof your health, which is the exaggerated claim of the vegan doctors. That might work if you are talking statistically broad on the level or millions of people, but most of us do not eat such a bad diet as the millions of poor people. I just do not think there is much understanding in broad statistics that lump everyone together. You miss a lot of data and make assumptions about the data that is unwarranted.

          If you posted a question here and asked “who thinks that even a little bit of meat is poisonout” I’d wager you’d get above a 90% yes response rate to that.

          The simple fact is that whatever the truth really is people want simple solutions based on things they have already heard about and can generate a myth to base their faith on.

          • Markus

            Brux, I haven’t seen any vegan doctors make any such exaggerated claims. In fact, they are often the most sensible practitioners of medicine and science out there. Perhaps they may make mistakes but what’s important is what we can discern through our own thinking and the studies done can help us there. So I have no idea where and how you are getting this kind erroneous idea. Veganism (or WFPB) is not about being perfect, it’s about removing the probable causes of disease and harm not just to ourselves but the planet and our animal friends. We minimise the harm, we might still die from disease or kill microbes. It seems you have not really thought this through, which I often see with people who are relying too much on doctors or scientists. Do you do that? This is about much more.

            You might be right, eating a cheese burger won’t kill you just as a cigarette won’t. But it is harming you and everyone associated especially the animal who you are eating. The factory farm thing has to stop. But so does hunting, fishing, zoos and all that. The caveman fantasy is over. It’s time to move on. If it takes fake meats to change people, then so be it.

            I suggest not thinking about these things with too much of a fixed mindset. There is a process involved in everyting, including evolution itself. Good science is about an approach to truth. The religious mindset is about absolutes. My thinking falls somewhere in between in the sense that I believe there is an Absolute Truth. Also known as nature, evolution, etc. Science and our reasoning mind try our best to understand that and then use that information as wisely as we can.

            Sometimes the videos here seem a little lazy and reductionist (fixed mindset), that was my main point in my original comment.

            In friendship,
            Markus

          • Markus

            Upon further reflection, even my original comment now seems a little redundant. Obviously the advice in the video is just a suggestion for a home remedy. I was just frustrated that I can’t find a way to help my girlfriend’s migraines. Why doesn’t the ginger help yet the sumatriptan does? If anyone has any suggestions, I’d appreciate the advice.

            Brux, it seems from your comment below that you suffered from migraines also. How are you doing with it now?

          • Brux

            My comments on migraines was due to the odd situation I had several times after drinking “designer” store bought coffee or eating too much. When I drank a brand of prepared coffee called “Stumptown” i got these sparkler kind of things in my field of vision that looked like Star Trek characters when they would use the transporter … a kind of staticy pattern. It went away but was super annoying. Looking at the ingredients, was water, milk, coffee, sugar and carageenan, all of which I have had many times before, so I have no idea what the issue was. I stay away from it I don’t have a problem. It is the weirdest thing I have ever experienced. I think it might be the carrageenan, because all the other ingredients are just so common.

            I am sorry to see you backing off from your earlier post. I have seen comments and insinuations in these videos that to me are decidedly unscientific, leading to the claims that veganism can prevent almost any disease. I try to eat as close as I can to vegan anyway, but I don’t go crazy if I eat a little meat. I do not consider a Big Mac meat, and when I say meat I do not mean processed food or factory farmed meat.

            Even the rice doctor Kempner who had amazing success reversing diabetes and some other health issues with a brown rice and fruit diet had the integrity to admit about 30% of his patients did not respond to it. That is great, but what if you are one of the ones that does not respond?

            We hear “how not to die” regularly from some of these doctors. Argument over the most picayune thing, how much of this and that to eat, or how to micromanage your diet. To me there is nothing that supports this kind of tuning of a diet. It is fine if people want to experiment with their own bodies, but I think it is not right to portray that as scientific or proven in any way.

            When I see a group of people who can somehow be tied to eating vegan or vegan like showing up in statistics disease free and with all their marbles at an old age, I will pay attention, but right now most of this is theoretical. That does not make it wrong, but it does make it unscientific.

            The vegans use this claim of scientific-ness like the people who do these fake tests to prove the nutritional value of kiwi fruits or whatever. The value is in eating WFPB – mostly plants – and staying away from toxic and unnatural stuff – not in the specific plants you eat or whether you get a little more vitamin C … in my opinion. If this was a silver bullet to a life of super-health we would see it already in groups of people as they approach this and there are trends, but nothing definite – in my opinion.

            It is like saying that exercise makes you healthier, and so to be the healthiest you have to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger … take everything to the linear extreme, when there is one thing we must begin to realize and that is that biological systems are non-linear.

          • Markus

            Brux, I’m not a scientist and I don’t care about this stuff enough to start reading arm-chair youtube comments. I don’t hold any one doctor or expert as an authority. I just get a general sense of what makes sense and what the studies suggest. You might be right about some discrepancies about some studies or doctors. They are just people and make mistakes. I really don’t care. You are here like me and seem to respect the information enough here to warrant your time.

            “The value is in eating WFPB – mostly plants – and staying away from toxic and unnatural stuff – not in the specific plants you eat or whether you get a little more vitamin C … in my opinion.”

            I agree.

            I just urge people to think about the ethical implications regarding our food choices. Ultimately, I’m vegan because eating meat violates the basic rule of morality: The Golden Rule. Without that I can come murder your family and say that I did it because it felt good. A little murder is okay (that’s basically your argument regarding eating meat).

            I get the sense that you don’t care too much about that. You say things like “I try to eat as close as I can to vegan anyway, but I don’t go crazy if I eat a little meat.” That seems to be an innocent remark but actually you are saying: I try to be a good person but now and then I rape and kill some kids because it’s really no big deal.

            Now, you might think I’m being radical here but in fact (from a moral point of view), you are the radical. I am not a better human being than anyone else, I just choose to embrace a worldview that will result in world peace instead of this kind of “youtube nutrition, science slave” philosophy that is so rampant in the world. Most vegans are not even vegans. They don’t get what that really means.

            We can discuss these things further if you want. You can even attack my character if you need to get it out of your system. But maybe we should do it somewhere else?

            I’m sure you are a good person and mean well. You probably know more than me about nutrition and what the doctors say. And maybe you have reached an understanding beyond mine when it comes to the other themes. Or maybe you actually agree but we are just lost in a little miscommunication and egos wanting to be fed with insults and attacks.

            Again, I was mainly concerned with the migraines and yes I came here out of annoyance for spreading this kind of information that clearly is not accurate.

            It will be interesting to see what Greger’s book offers.

            In friendship,
            Markus

          • Brux

            >> Brux, I’m not a scientist and I don’t care
            >> about this stuff enough to start reading
            >> arm-chair youtube comments.

            Well, Markus, since I just watched the Bill Maher show on HBO …

            New rule: You can’t sign-ff “in friendship” as if you are a nice reasonable guy while at the same time saying you’re not reading my comment. And … what does that have to do with you-Tube? Or murder?

            No … I don’t really care.

            When someone acts decidedly weird and nutty, I stop talking with them and move on … take the hint, OK.

          • Markus

            Brux, apologies for appearing a little rude to you in my previous comment. I didn’t mean I hadn’t read your comments, I was referring to general youtube comments, which I try to avoid. I have read every single thing you have written here and appreciate you taking the time to have this little chat with me.

            I feel strongly about the moral issue as you can tell. And I think reason is on my side on that.

            My sign off i intended to always end my interaction no matter how ugly, with an invitation for friendship. But not just for the other person but for both of us. Sometimes I may fail in my communication skills and accuse others of doing so. But we are here to learn and exchange our ideas.

            In friendship,
            Markus

          • Brux

            Markus … here is something I lifted from a You-Tube post that just happened to kind of parallel this discussion …

            I deleted the ad hominems ….

            Here’s a critique of Dr Greger I found with a 20 second search on Google:

            ‘He cites a reference showing that “a plant-based diet of primarily whole grains, fruits, vegetables, and legumes can completely prevent heart attacks.” This is a quotation from an article in the Food and Drug Law Journal, and the footnotes there only send us to Caldwell Esselstyn’s flawed research. Esselstyn studied only a small number of patients who already had heart disease, and he treated them with statin drugs in addition to diet, and their diet included skim milk and low-fat yogurt. It is ludicrous to interpret that research as showing that a plant-based diet can completely prevent heart attacks. A more accurate interpretation is that patients (only a few patients in one study) who had already had a heart attack did not have a second heart attack while being treated with cholesterol-lowering medications and a diet that was largely plant-based but also included foods derived from animals.’

            And here’s what that same critique said about his Azlheimers “Research”:

            ‘Greger says, “We’ve known for 20 years that those who eat meat are 2-3 times as likely to become demented as vegetarians.” This claim is based on an old Adventist health study that has not been replicated. It studied two groups: matched and unmatched subjects. The data he cites are from the matched group. There was no difference in incidence of dementia between meat eaters and vegetarians in the unmatched study. Adventists are lacto-ovo-vegetarians who eat milk and eggs. And they are also a rather unique group with other healthy lifestyle practices. So it is disingenuous to claim this study as definitive evidence for veganism.

            He neglects to tell us about studies that got different results, like the one showing that fish consumption reduces the risk of Alzheimer’s.”

          • Wondering

            It can be said that all of the studies showing people living to a ripe old age are studying people who for the 1st many years of their life lived in a less polluted world with more real food and a much different lifestyle. So how can they compare to anyone today?

          • Brux

            That is a great question or consideration … we human beings treat ourselves like we have treated various species of animals when we put them in zoos. We place ourselves in environments that human beings have never lived in before, and sustain ourselves with things no living thing has ever even encountered before, let alone eaten and we never think to wonder … what are we doing? A lot of animals die in captivity, and I think we are distorting the human soul to fit into someone else’s machine who has so much money and power that they can live and eat however they like, and wonder why people seem to be so crazy these days? It’s a great question – the question maybe.

    • jm

      Another thing to consider with migraines is that sometimes a new treatment works for a while but doesn’t continue in the long run. Migraine is a Neurological Brain Disorder that manifest in different ways. It is a whole body disorder not just a headache with peripherals. https://migraine.com/ has a lot of good information from actual sufferers not just experts.

  • http://www.abicana.com Knut Holt

    And ginger is also good for both male and female potency.

  • kev

    hi, thank for the vid. what sort of quantitiies would you use? i have read that too much ginger can cause problems (dont know how much is too much or even if its true).

  • kev

    would this work for Vestibular Migraine?

  • Marya at Simplywell

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